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Post by James Dunne on May 23, 2017 7:33:37 GMT -5
5/23 Red Sox (RHP Rick Porcello 2-5, 4.23, 55.1 IP, 58K:12BB) vs. Rangers (RHP Andrew Cashner 1-3, 2.45, 40.1 IP, 33K:10BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 5/24 Red Sox (LHP Chris Sale 4-2, 2.19, 65.2 IP, 95K:13BB) vs. Rangers (LHP Martin Perez 2-5, 3.71, 51.0 IP, 36K:21BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 5/25 Red Sox (LHP Drew Pomeranz 3-3, 4.97, 38.0 IP, 45K:16BB) vs. Rangers (RHP Nick Martinez 1-2, 4.33, 35.1 IP, 19K:7BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsWeatherSeries Thread Disclaimer: The SoxProspects Moderators will be somewhat liberal in policing the Red Sox "Series" Threads. Some of the Ground Rules are applied loosely in here, as we understand that there is a tendency to want to react (or overreact) to every play of a Sox game with one line reactionary posts. Those posts are okay in the Red Sox Series threads to a point - we certainly appreciate the passion. Just try not to overdo it, and try to maintain some semblance of reason. In addition, please don't let those type of posts spill over to other more substantive threads, where they may be deleted. -The Management
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Post by soxfanatic on May 23, 2017 8:10:18 GMT -5
Win game 1 and 2, steal game 3. Come on now!
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Post by jmei on May 23, 2017 9:09:04 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on May 23, 2017 9:30:07 GMT -5
The Red Sox have had some luck with starting pitcher matchups recently - they missed Chris Archer in the Rays series last weekend, and they don't get Yu Darvish here.
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Post by station13 on May 23, 2017 10:24:50 GMT -5
The Red Sox have had some luck with starting pitcher matchups recently - they missed Chris Archer in the Rays series last weekend, and they don't get Yu Darvish here. I'm not sure that would help this team since they couldn't even win in Oakland. |
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Post by jimed14 on May 23, 2017 10:25:58 GMT -5
I hope they stop giving up 450+ foot home runs to guys I've never heard of.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 23, 2017 10:32:39 GMT -5
Could really use for Porcello to set the tone in the 1st game. I thought I read where the Rangers weren't playing well this year, yet I see their record is better than ours. 1/4 of the season done. It is time to start a damn winning streak.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 23, 2017 10:34:38 GMT -5
Does this mean you are starting to like the trade? Others have admitted that his performance has changed their calculus on the trade, do you have the guts to admit it also?  |
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Post by jimed14 on May 23, 2017 10:37:06 GMT -5
Does this mean you are starting to like the trade? Others have admitted that his performance has changed their calculus on the trade, do you have the guts to admit it also? I don't know how anyone on the planet could have predicted that he'd go back to being perfect. Plus, we're talking about a 1/4 season here. |
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 23, 2017 10:47:33 GMT -5
Does this mean you are starting to like the trade? Others have admitted that his performance has changed their calculus on the trade, do you have the guts to admit it also? I don't know how anyone on the planet could have predicted that he'd go back to being perfect. Plus, we're talking about a 1/4 season here. Correct. But a snapshot is all we have got to this point. When we value trades and under performance is part of the calculus, then it is fair to value trades when premium performance is part of the calculus. Like a lot of things in life, the truth lies somewhere in the middle. |
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Post by James Dunne on May 23, 2017 11:03:03 GMT -5
The Red Sox have had some luck with starting pitcher matchups recently - they missed Chris Archer in the Rays series last weekend, and they don't get Yu Darvish here. I'm not sure that would help this team since they couldn't even win in Oakland. Eh, the A's aren't terrible, Oakland has always been a tough place for them to play, and one-off west coast series are abominations. Would've liked a split there but the A's kind of got lucky with matchups on that one - they won the close Chris Sale game in extras, they missed Porcello, and the series happened a week or so before Price is coming back. Does this mean you are starting to like the trade? Others have admitted that his performance has changed their calculus on the trade, do you have the guts to admit it also? The Kimbrel trade - and frankly most of the trades both Dombrowski has made - aren't really a question about the quality of the guy they got, but about the amount they gave up to get it. If you buy a million dollar house and it's awesome and everything you want it to be, that's great. But if you pay two million dollars for it then it's still a poor use of resources. So Kimbrel pitching like Kimbrel hasn't made me change my opinion of the trade, no. But Farrell picking his spots to use Kimbrel more aggressively has changed it somewhat. |
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Post by jrffam05 on May 23, 2017 12:29:17 GMT -5
Does this mean you are starting to like the trade? Others have admitted that his performance has changed their calculus on the trade, do you have the guts to admit it also? I didn't think Kimbrel was going to be this good at the point of the trade, if the expectation was he would have a .49 FIP with a sub 1 ERA for three seasons, I would like the trade. But I also don't expect him to pitch on a 5.2 fWAR pace for the next 1.75 seasons. My expectation was he would of been a little better than he was last year. |
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Post by Oregon Norm on May 23, 2017 13:25:52 GMT -5
We have no idea how much injuries played with Kimbrel's loss of command last year. He has that back this year. He can find the strikezone and he's placing it where he wants to place it. We have to realize, however, that he's only under the team's control for one more year after this one, so he's not going to accumulate an enormous amount of value. As James points out, there's a bit of talent in the players who've been sent off to other teams with all these trades. That's seems like the product of short-term vision and expectations, rather than keeping the talent for the longer haul. It has to be hard to balance those competing demands. My gripe is that much of the talent shipped off was for relievers, two of whom aren't available right now. They're not bringing anything to the table and we're not sure when they will. Whenever that is, it's the value of 7th and 8th inning relief pitchers. As good as Kimbrel is, that was a load of talent that was shipped off to get him. Margot has gotten off to a decent start, one that may get him a few votes for ROY, but this guy may be the real gem. Given the void in Boston's upper-level pitching talent, he may end up representing a tremendous loss just at a time when they could use him. Short-term, versus long-term. That's always where the argument is and is going to be. |
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Post by wesmantooth on May 23, 2017 14:14:35 GMT -5
Assume Sam Travis will make his debut Saturday against the lefty.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 23, 2017 14:16:09 GMT -5
Lol, well every time he isn't perfect, JBJ is there to save him. |
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Post by wesmantooth on May 23, 2017 17:51:39 GMT -5
Carrabis just gave the site/podcast a nice little shoutout on the Baseball show w/ Tony Maz on 98.5
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Post by jimed14 on May 23, 2017 18:44:00 GMT -5
Can they PH for Marreo in the 2nd inning?
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Post by dnfl333 on May 23, 2017 19:15:55 GMT -5
The lineup is a concern.....
A power hitter leading off, #3 hitter with 0 HR's batting 3rd? A rookie in an 0 26 slump who hasn't hit a HR in months batting cleanup and HRam #5? And people ask me why I say Farrell should be sent off to the White Mountains...
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Post by jimed14 on May 23, 2017 19:26:13 GMT -5
The lineup is a concern..... A power hitter leading off, #3 hitter with 0 HR's batting 3rd? A rookie in an 0 26 slump who hasn't hit a HR in months batting cleanup and HRam #5? And people ask me why I say Farrell should be sent off to the White Mountains... If none of the 5 get a hit, does it matter what order they're making outs? |
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Post by DesignatedKyle on May 23, 2017 19:45:50 GMT -5
where's the guy who always complains about Xander?
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Post by radiohix on May 23, 2017 20:03:46 GMT -5
Man Porcello has been so unlucky in this game!
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Post by marrcus on May 23, 2017 20:58:11 GMT -5
Things looking pretty good after 7 full. It's good to score runs.
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Post by DesignatedKyle on May 23, 2017 22:06:42 GMT -5
well, only a couple of days until I can put my full sports attention on the Sox again.
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Post by telluricrook on May 23, 2017 22:46:12 GMT -5
where's the guy who always complains about Xander? Needs Some Homeruns! Otherwise he doesnt add much value to being an average defensive short stop! I was watching Celtics blow a huge lead btw. |
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Post by atzar on May 23, 2017 23:20:31 GMT -5
where's the guy who always complains about Xander? Needs Some Homeruns! Otherwise he doesnt add much value to being an average defensive short stop! I was watching Celtics blow a huge lead btw. Sure he does. .390+ OBP has huge value. He should be hitting leadoff, but that's not Xander's fault. |
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