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Interesting Roster Decisions Ahead...
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Post by telson13 on Jul 3, 2017 15:08:50 GMT -5
Isn't it still crucially important for the future that we spend one year under the salary cap so that we reset out penalties to a lower level, so that it will cost much much less to go over it next year? That is my hope too. That was the point of my comment to "consider trading Young." Right now they have $7.7, under? And if they trade Young -- isn't that another $6.5m? So go after a guy that keeps you under but can be a 3b/dh. Trading Young only saves about half of his salary, so roughly $3.3M. It's not going to happen because they're in a pennant race. But, if they got a useful prospect or two back and Brentz's revival isn't smoke and mirrors, it's feasible. But still highly unlikely. They're looking to strengthen the bench, not take chances with it. I'd like to see what the new Brentz can do, but you're talking about a significant risk. Frankly I'd prefer they unload Abad and maybe Boyer and see what Callahan can do, though that'd leave them short on RP who can get lefties out consistently. Or just promote Devers. It's pretty unlikely he'll be worse than what they have, and reasonably likely that he'll be marginally to significantly better. Like you say, saving $ and staying under cap is pretty important.
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Post by m1keyboots on Jul 3, 2017 15:45:14 GMT -5
Marrero has the best argument to stay in the majors. Although he has been serviceable, it's likely he will be DFA'd after the year because he's out of options. Lin is arguably a better player than Marrero now, but he actually has a future with the club. I think him and Travis get sent to Pawtucket for regular at bats when Rutledge and Holt return. That leaves E-Rod and Carson Smith. Personally, I'd get rid of Abad and trade Hembree, who has no options but should have a market. Fister to the pen as the long man and spot 6th starter when needed. Personally id like to see if Carson can even do the job Hembree has done/is doing before we roll the dice. Hembree has at least proven capable, I agree Fister traded or long man once Erod comes back. Man, living around DC seems so unlikely to hear Fister running out of MLB options
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 4, 2017 2:43:53 GMT -5
So after seeing Roby Scott struggle for a long while now to throw strikes and not get lefties out, I hope he's the next pitcher to get sent down for either Eduardo Rodriguez or Carson Smith (whichever comes first).
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 7, 2017 22:55:48 GMT -5
Let's revisit - coming back is likely to be Holt and ERod (not sure about Ross, Rutledge or Sandoval).
Trending down - Fister, Scott, maybe Travis (needs regular ABs)
Trending up -Boyer, Abad (perhaps - he does eat innings), Marrero, Lin
My guess - ERod comes up, Scott goes down, Fister to the pen....Holt comes up, Travis goes down.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 8, 2017 8:38:51 GMT -5
My guess is that they also have a decision coming up on Peralta. I can't see him sitting in Pawtucket for more than another week or so. I'm not even going to pull up his stats, because that's not going to be the issue - it'll be based on how he looks in person. You'd think that they need to decide whether he's either coming up or moving out for Devers, and that the decision needs to be made to give them enough time to go after a 3B before the deadline as well if they're going to do that.
As good as Tzurrero has been recently, I have a feeling they're not going to stand pat with that. (Although I wouldn't hate if they kept the seat warm for a September Devers audition...)
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Post by ryan24 on Jul 8, 2017 9:59:07 GMT -5
My guess is that they also have a decision coming up on Peralta. I can't see him sitting in Pawtucket for more than another week or so. I'm not even going to pull up his stats, because that's not going to be the issue - it'll be based on how he looks in person. You'd think that they need to decide whether he's either coming up or moving out for Devers, and that the decision needs to be made to give them enough time to go after a 3B before the deadline as well if they're going to do that. As good as Tzurrero has been recently, I have a feeling they're not going to stand pat with that. (Although I wouldn't hate if they kept the seat warm for a September Devers audition...) yes, sort of forgot about him. I would think at this stage, we are in first, sale is an ace, the pen looks good, playing good defense, and the hitting is pretty good. Second best record in the league, 2nd best on runs allowed , 3rd or 4th in runs scored, and one of 4 teams with a winning record on the road. There should be no panic. I do not think Peralta is much better than what they have now and could see them cutting him and standing pat on 3rd base. Especially if holt is anywhere near coming back. I think Devers gets a shot in August. Then again it is hard to say with Dave. It still appears that staying under the cap number is still very strong.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 8, 2017 22:07:17 GMT -5
My guess is that they also have a decision coming up on Peralta. I can't see him sitting in Pawtucket for more than another week or so. I'm not even going to pull up his stats, because that's not going to be the issue - it'll be based on how he looks in person. You'd think that they need to decide whether he's either coming up or moving out for Devers, and that the decision needs to be made to give them enough time to go after a 3B before the deadline as well if they're going to do that. As good as Tzurrero has been recently, I have a feeling they're not going to stand pat with that. (Although I wouldn't hate if they kept the seat warm for a September Devers audition...) yes, sort of forgot about him. I would think at this stage, we are in first, sale is an ace, the pen looks good, playing good defense, and the hitting is pretty good. Second best record in the league, 2nd best on runs allowed , 3rd or 4th in runs scored, and one of 4 teams with a winning record on the road. There should be no panic. I do not think Peralta is much better than what they have now and could see them cutting him and standing pat on 3rd base. Especially if holt is anywhere near coming back. I think Devers gets a shot in August. Then again it is hard to say with Dave. It still appears that staying under the cap number is still very strong. Well, he only needs to look good enough to give him a look in the majors - they don't need to commit to him long-term right now, but rather just deem it worth getting a look at him in Boston. They'd need to clear a 40-man space, but there's an obvious move (Ross to the 60-day), and they're going to need that spot for Holt when/if he comes back anyway.
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Post by larrycook on Jul 11, 2017 21:55:45 GMT -5
I think we the sox have an interesting decision ahead for fister. Clearly he is not starter material, but do we keep him? I can not imagine a soft tosser like him is needed in the bullpen. Plus who goes from the bullpen? Just about all the right handed pitching in the pen is bettter than fister.
I would love to see us trade abad, but then we would need another lefty.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 11, 2017 23:02:22 GMT -5
Agreed - ERod will return, and one possibility is to could Scott back to Pawtucket for some work on his control to make room for Fister - but Abad as the only lefty reliever? No lefties in Pawtucket either (except Olmos).
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 13, 2017 15:59:41 GMT -5
Peralta released...clock ticking on Pablo (could he be gone soon)....Devers probably up to Pawtucket. Erod back. Should be some interesting shuffling before things get going again tomorrow. Holt ready to come up?
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Post by larrycook on Jul 13, 2017 22:00:37 GMT -5
Peralta released...clock ticking on Pablo (could he be gone soon)....Devers probably up to Pawtucket. Erod back. Should be some interesting shuffling before things get going again tomorrow. Holt ready to come up? How can the sox not give Pablo one more shot knowing they still owe him about $50 million?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 13, 2017 22:19:16 GMT -5
Peralta released...clock ticking on Pablo (could he be gone soon)....Devers probably up to Pawtucket. Erod back. Should be some interesting shuffling before things get going again tomorrow. Holt ready to come up? How can the sox not give Pablo one more shot knowing they still owe him about $50 million? Because they've evaluated in the past 2 and a half years that he can't play baseball anymore. Who cares about the money if he can't play?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 13, 2017 23:40:01 GMT -5
Peralta released...clock ticking on Pablo (could he be gone soon)....Devers probably up to Pawtucket. Erod back. Should be some interesting shuffling before things get going again tomorrow. Holt ready to come up? How can the sox not give Pablo one more shot knowing they still owe him about $50 million? Would you pay $50 million to play a guy who will help you lose or pay $50 million not to play a guy that will help you lose? Since you're paying $50 million either way, it's a no-brainer.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 14, 2017 13:43:31 GMT -5
So we know Pablo is gone, Peralta is gone.
Looking at the injury report info on Baseball Reference, they have Holt as ready possibly end of July, ERod should be coming up ASAP, no timetable listed for Ross or Rutledge (they have Smith due back end July, interestingly).
Fister will have to go when ERod is back...but does he stay in the pen? Abad, Scott and Boyer are all options opening a roster spot I guess.
Devers is now listed on the Pawtucket roster.
We still seem to be a bat short on the big team.
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Post by KB24 on Jul 14, 2017 14:19:18 GMT -5
Will Holt replace Sandoval's spot on the 40 man?
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 14, 2017 14:24:55 GMT -5
I assume ERod will be activated Monday to start against the Blue Jays? And since that is probably the case, Fister is already in the bullpen.
I'd hesitate to waive Boyer because he's been ok and would rather demote Scott to work on his control.
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Post by station13 on Jul 14, 2017 14:30:40 GMT -5
Erod is scheduled for Sunday night.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 14, 2017 14:33:12 GMT -5
Erod is scheduled for Sunday night. I see Price listed.
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Post by station13 on Jul 14, 2017 14:40:59 GMT -5
Erod is scheduled for Sunday night. I see Price listed. E-rod is listed on redsox.com, that was there since last week. Might be different now.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 14, 2017 15:13:38 GMT -5
E-rod is listed on redsox.com, that was there since last week. Might be different now. Eduardo is pitching Monday.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 14, 2017 15:24:57 GMT -5
Looking at the injury report info on Baseball Reference, they have Holt as ready possibly end of July, ERod should be coming up ASAP, no timetable listed for Ross or Rutledge (they have Smith due back end July, interestingly). I have no idea where B-Ref is getting any of that info, but it's definitely wrong for Holt. They have him starting his rehab assignment on July 8. He started it on July 1 - it was transferred to Portland on 7/5, then back to Pawtucket on 7/8. It's relevant because that factors into when he'd need to be activated (although they can extend his rehab once because he's on the 60-day - by my count he has until August 9). I also hadn't seen anything reported about when he might be activated (if anyone has links, definitely post). I wouldn't base anything on B-Ref's injury section (I hadn't even realized that was a feature of the site, to be honest). Will Holt replace Sandoval's spot on the 40 man? It's a possiblity. They'll likely just leave it open for now.
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Post by redsox26 on Jul 18, 2017 23:46:19 GMT -5
Please someone wake up Farrell..and DD>>>Mookie bats 3rd and Marrero never Bats... Wake up Front office...
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Post by redsox26 on Jul 18, 2017 23:57:22 GMT -5
Unreal.... Dave Does nothing with this weak offense..........
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 26, 2017 21:35:25 GMT -5
Kicking this up because it is roster decision time again as Nunez is added - perhaps Joe Kelly soon.
My view is that Devers has to stick right now - optimism, energy - and as we saw today, results.
First move - Nunez added, Fister DFA, or Moreland to the DL (I'd prefer Xander, but Farrell doesn't seem to want to do that). once Kelly comes back, maybe that's when we can say goodbye to Fister.
Other possibilities - Marrero back to Pawtucket, or cutting Young loose.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 27, 2017 2:17:24 GMT -5
If we DL Moreland, we will need Travis called up (which I would love to see). That's negates the roster spot. Fister will likely be here until Kelly or Smith are ready. That pretty much leaves Marrero.
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