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Post by jimed14 on Jun 29, 2017 6:13:57 GMT -5
Step away from the ledge, Red Sox fans.
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Post by huskies15 on Jun 29, 2017 8:10:44 GMT -5
Anyone think Betts might need a day off?
I think he's played every game since the flu outbreak at the beginning of the season. Same goes for Bogaerts I believe
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Post by nomar on Jun 29, 2017 8:12:36 GMT -5
Anyone think Betts might need a day off? I think he's played every game since the flu outbreak at the beginning of the season. Same goes for Bogaerts I believe They both need nights off for sure. Hopefully they get one soon.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 29, 2017 12:27:16 GMT -5
Anyone think Betts might need a day off? I think he's played every game since the flu outbreak at the beginning of the season. Same goes for Bogaerts I believe They both need nights off for sure. Hopefully they get one soon. Betts has started every game since 4/9. Bogaerts has started every game since 4/11 but one on 4/21. Bradley has started every game but two (5/20, 5/24) since 5/10.
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Post by jrffam05 on Jun 29, 2017 14:19:34 GMT -5
If I were a pitcher facing the Sox, I would just throw sliders low and outside. Could end up breaking the record for strikeouts. There is a lot of truth to this statement. If an umpire calls one low and outside slider a strike in the first inning, then look out, because all our hitters heads are messed up and they have just mentally expanded the strike zone to biblical porportions. This is another reason why I think we need a veteran professional hitter on this team. We need a guy that help these hitters realize what opposing pitchers are doing to them. Ps: if Hanley is hurt, put him on the dl and let him get better. Because the wounded warrior is not helping the team. I doubt he is hitting over 200 these last 10 games or so. That's what a hitting coach is for, and we have one of those. Everyday these guys are being presented much richer data than we have, they watch lots of video, have team meetings, and get in depth scouting reports. It's difficult to hit a slider low and away. And for what it's worth the Red Sox as a team have the second lowest strikeout rate in the MLB. I for one don't think the hitters are criminally under performing. There's plenty of room for improvement, but of the 8 hitters with the most PA's the lowest wRC+ is 92. Hanley, Pedroia, and probably Betts should be hitting better, but tit's not like hey are not lost at the plate. All we need is someone who can baseball at third base.
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Post by scottysmalls on Jun 29, 2017 14:52:20 GMT -5
Porcello not good enough. The Sox lineup isn't good at all. Should of traded Porcello when his value was highest coming off his Cy Young campaign last year.This is such an asinine thing to say. You really think the Red Sox should've anticipated this from Porcello and traded him? A reliable, durable pitcher who by all reasonable measures should have been expected to put forward a strong season at a good value. You really think the team should have been looking to deal him when trying to compete for a championship? This reactionary thinking is just ridiculous.
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Post by jmei on Jun 29, 2017 16:05:04 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 29, 2017 16:35:40 GMT -5
Porcello not good enough. The Sox lineup isn't good at all. Should of traded Porcello when his value was highest coming off his Cy Young campaign last year.This is such an asinine thing to say. You really think the Red Sox should've anticipated this from Porcello and traded him? A reliable, durable pitcher who by all reasonable measures should have been expected to put forward a strong season at a good value. You really think the team should have been looking to deal him when trying to compete for a championship? This reactionary thinking is just ridiculous. How is it asinine? You would be freeing up 20 million a year under the CBT, which you needed under the luxury tax threshold. You would of also potentially get a top 25 prospect or 2 top 50 prospects for him in a sell high moment. Remember, Dave Dombrowski has already sold Porcello while under contention once before. I'm sure the advanced metrics tell a different story on Porcello, like the Babip but Porcello has given league average production thus far based off the results. Maybe you could of got more help on offense with the savings from the Porcello contract, you know?
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jun 29, 2017 18:01:56 GMT -5
If I were a pitcher facing the Sox, I would just throw sliders low and outside. Could end up breaking the record for strikeouts. There is a lot of truth to this statement. If an umpire calls one low and outside slider a strike in the first inning, then look out, because all our hitters heads are messed up and they have just mentally expanded the strike zone to biblical porportions. This is another reason why I think we need a veteran professional hitter on this team. We need a guy that help these hitters realize what opposing pitchers are doing to them. Ps: if Hanley is hurt, put him on the dl and let him get better. Because the wounded warrior is not helping the team. I doubt he is hitting over 200 these last 10 games or so. Pardon me, lc, but I am truly curious how one knows what an athlete is thinking. I'll admit, try as I might over the years, I can't do it. I couldn't even read Tom Brady's bad body language, back in the days of "no weapons and the closing Tom Brady window." Any pointers will be greatly appreciated.
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Post by radiohix on Jun 29, 2017 18:07:59 GMT -5
Kyle Gibson has been a notorious Red Sox killer in Fenway.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 29, 2017 18:31:01 GMT -5
The cutter is looking good tonight.
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Post by templeusox on Jun 29, 2017 19:01:06 GMT -5
This offense stinks.
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Post by radiohix on Jun 29, 2017 19:05:05 GMT -5
Kyle Gibson has been a notorious Red Sox killer in Fenway. And still does.
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Post by wesmantooth on Jun 29, 2017 19:05:07 GMT -5
This really needs to be the end of Marrero.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 29, 2017 19:05:31 GMT -5
The bottom of this lineup is not major league. I know that there have been injuries and I will always back our guys, but it's totally true, this offense makes bad pitchers look really good. That really isn't acceptable.
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Post by templeusox on Jun 29, 2017 19:05:59 GMT -5
No power in the lineup means lots and lots of double plays.
This is Kyle Gibson folks. A literal bottom quintile pitcher in the majors.
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Post by station13 on Jun 29, 2017 19:06:03 GMT -5
That's putting it lightly. They blows.
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Post by station13 on Jun 29, 2017 19:08:10 GMT -5
The bottom of this lineup is not major league. I know that there have been injuries and I will always back our guys, but it's totally true, this offense makes bad pitchers look really good. That really isn't acceptable. you would think they tinker the lineup to give it a jolt or something at this point. Having a hot JBJ hitting near the top might do woners.
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Post by templeusox on Jun 29, 2017 19:08:29 GMT -5
Prepping Rafael Devers for a call-up seems like a sure thing. It's just too bad he's blocked by a dependable and deserving major leaguer in the name of Johnny Peralta.
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Post by station13 on Jun 29, 2017 19:12:17 GMT -5
It isn't just Price who has trouble following this game.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 29, 2017 19:12:48 GMT -5
The bottom of this lineup is not major league. I know that there have been injuries and I will always back our guys, but it's totally true, this offense makes bad pitchers look really good. That really isn't acceptable. you would think they tinker the lineup to give it a jolt or something at this point. Having a hot JBJ hitting near the top might do woners. I agree. Something has to give. It has to be considered a systemic issue at this point.
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Post by templeusox on Jun 29, 2017 19:13:02 GMT -5
Was that Xanders fault, David?
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 29, 2017 19:14:29 GMT -5
you would think they tinker the lineup to give it a jolt or something at this point. Having a hot JBJ hitting near the top might do woners. I agree. Something has to give. It has to be considered a systemic issue at this point. The difference between this lineup and just about every lineup for the last few weeks is that Pedroia is out.
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Post by larrycook on Jun 29, 2017 19:21:11 GMT -5
There is a lot of truth to this statement. If an umpire calls one low and outside slider a strike in the first inning, then look out, because all our hitters heads are messed up and they have just mentally expanded the strike zone to biblical porportions. This is another reason why I think we need a veteran professional hitter on this team. We need a guy that help these hitters realize what opposing pitchers are doing to them. Ps: if Hanley is hurt, put him on the dl and let him get better. Because the wounded warrior is not helping the team. I doubt he is hitting over 200 these last 10 games or so. Pardon me, lc, but I am truly curious how one knows what an athlete is thinking. I'll admit, try as I might over the years, I can't do it. I couldn't even read Tom Brady's bad body language, back in the days of "no weapons and the closing Tom Brady window." Any pointers will be greatly appreciated. Watch what pitches they swing at. A bad strike call in the first inning and our guys will swing at pitches a foot off the plate by the fifth inning.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 29, 2017 19:23:54 GMT -5
I agree. Something has to give. It has to be considered a systemic issue at this point. The difference between this lineup and just about every lineup for the last few weeks is that Pedroia is out. Then let's not worry about it, everything is hunky-dory. First thing I would do is get Mookie out of the leadoff spot. I would move JBJ into the 2 hole. Let Pedroia bat 6th. X is leadoff.
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