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Post by bluechip on Apr 17, 2013 13:58:25 GMT -5
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Post by bentossaurus on Apr 24, 2013 22:15:54 GMT -5
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Post by ray88h66 on May 6, 2013 15:41:24 GMT -5
Too much good info here to let this thread stay on page 2. Thanks Pedro.
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Post by soxfanatic on May 11, 2013 13:09:17 GMT -5
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Post by grandsalami on May 13, 2013 14:03:48 GMT -5
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Post by njsox on May 16, 2013 13:32:47 GMT -5
Have any teams made a trade for more International Signing Pool money yet? I would love to see the Sox try and trade some fringe 40 man roster guys, who could be exposed to the Rule 5, for some more pool money.
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Post by hammerhead on May 17, 2013 8:21:21 GMT -5
I'd empty the bank on Devers (at least from the glowing scouting reports I've seen)... I'd much rather get one stud prospect than a whole bunch of fringy lottery tickets. Getting Devers would also theoretically give them some insurance in the draft, if Bryant and Frazier are already taken. You could use the #7 pick on pitching, sign Devers and still have balanced high end potential talent coming in. Of course there will be definite talent in rounds 2 through 4 of the draft and other IFA , but not like top ten draft picks and high bonus IFA's.
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Post by njsox on May 17, 2013 10:02:37 GMT -5
Scouting reports have Devers going from a guy who "lacks projection" to a guy who scouts project to grow so much he will be relegated to 1st base. Odd, just goes to show how little we know about these prospects until we get them in the system. Whatever the case, I am excited at the prospect of signing Devers, it appears he has the potential to be the impact bat that the Sox could really use in the system.
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Post by jdb on May 17, 2013 10:31:10 GMT -5
I'd empty the bank on Devers (at least from the glowing scouting reports I've seen)... I'd much rather get one stud prospect than a whole bunch of fringy lottery tickets. Getting Devers would also theoretically give them some insurance in the draft, if Bryant and Frazier are already taken. You could use the #7 pick on pitching, sign Devers and still have balanced high end potential talent coming in. Of course there will be definite talent in rounds 2 through 4 of the draft and other IFA , but not like top ten draft picks and high bonus IFA's. You really never know with 16 yr old kids. Guys like Xander didn't break the bank (510k) and I don't think Hanley got much at all. I am excited about the possibility of Devers though.
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Post by GyIantosca on May 17, 2013 15:04:25 GMT -5
Good they need to build the infield inventory. Thank God we have SS locked up because of the shortage of prospects there. But I would love to add to 1B,2B and 3B.
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Post by sarasoxer on May 17, 2013 17:01:24 GMT -5
Good they need to build the infield inventory. Thank God we have SS locked up because of the shortage of prospects there. But I would love to add to 1B,2B and 3B. please add LF, CF, RF, DH, Catcher, RHP, LHP, RP and I am with you!
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Post by sarasoxer on May 17, 2013 17:01:34 GMT -5
Good they need to build the infield inventory. Thank God we have SS locked up because of the shortage of prospects there. But I would love to add to 1B,2B and 3B. please add LF, CF, RF, DH, Catcher, RHP, LHP, RP and I am with you!
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Post by bluechip on May 23, 2013 13:42:03 GMT -5
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Post by azblue on May 26, 2013 12:33:29 GMT -5
If you sign several of the top 10 prospects on one signing season and pay the price the next year (or even two years, depending on how rules change), that may indeed be better than missing out on the elite prospects every year. At least you have an opening to use this strategy until the next CBA.
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Post by bluechip on May 26, 2013 14:15:06 GMT -5
If you sign several of the top 10 prospects on one signing season and pay the price the next year (or even two years, depending on how rules change), that may indeed be better than missing out on the elite prospects every year. At least you have an opening to use this strategy until the next CBA. That's my thinking. If there is going to be a draft next year (and presumably the Red Sox would pick towards the bottom of that draft), then I hope they break the bank this year and sign as money top prospects as possible. If international pipeline is a little dry in 2014 or 2015, that should be ok because there will be (hopefully) several high ceiling guys moving through the system.
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Post by ikonos on May 26, 2013 18:39:39 GMT -5
Don't forget the league can follow NFL route and impose sanctions on a team for violating the "spirit" even if they dont break rules. As much as it could be an interesting approach, teams might push the limits but they dont like to blatantly violate league norms.
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Post by James Dunne on May 31, 2013 13:12:47 GMT -5
No 2014 International Draft:
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 31, 2013 14:12:07 GMT -5
Thank goodness.
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Post by bluechip on May 31, 2013 14:38:55 GMT -5
Meh, the total amount of money going to the players does not change one way or the other, so really no a big deal one way or the other.
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 31, 2013 14:48:53 GMT -5
The way teams scout and develop player would. I've talked about this a million times already.
Why would STL go scout a little know player in a small town just so that some other team that doesn't put the work can draft him? BTW that player is Oscar Taveras.
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Post by bluechip on May 31, 2013 22:03:47 GMT -5
The way teams scout and develop player would. I've talked about this a million times already. Why would STL go scout a little know player in a small town just so that some other team that doesn't put the work can draft him? BTW that player is Oscar Taveras. If St. Louis scouts him, but no else scouts him, then they are the only one who is going to draft him. St Louis does not have to share its scouting reports.
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 31, 2013 22:54:40 GMT -5
For him to be eligible in the 1st place they would have to turn him in for MLB allowing the Scouting bureau to scout him and do a report for every big league team.
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Post by redsox1534 on Jun 1, 2013 8:51:33 GMT -5
I love Taveras, Hanly, Bogaerts are all guys no one said was a top international prospect. You dont need a whole bunch of big signings. Of course some guys who are big time international FA's do work out and thats why we want them also.
Taveras is the best international FA Hitter I have seen in a long time. Hes alot better then Profar if you ask me. And when I said Alot better I ment AAAAALLLLLLOOOOOOOTTTTTTT better.
Glad there wont be a draft.
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Post by foleyli on Jun 1, 2013 11:55:13 GMT -5
If an international draft goes into effect in the next 20+ years, it will have major consequences, pedroelgrande touched on it but it hits even deeper than that, there would be no need for scouts to go to regions such as Costa Rica, Brazil, Aruba, and other latin american countries that are not baseball powerhouses because only a handful of prospects from these regions are signed and, with the draft, there is no promise that your team will be the one drafting them. This would basically stop baseball's development in these new markets and significantly hurt baseball's global reach.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 7, 2013 3:09:22 GMT -5
Source: TX, BOS, Cubs, LAD among seven teams with serious interest in Cuban pitching prospect Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez
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