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Post by jimed14 on Aug 21, 2017 20:47:43 GMT -5
If Price's elbow is really that shot, I'd love to see him air everything he has left out of the bullpen and have the Tommy John surgery after the season. Makes sense. What do you really have to lose there anyways? It sounds like surgery is inevitable at this point. Because the Sox would be stuck with him for seven additional seasons at $30M/yr. Pray he's healthy next year has a good year, he opts out, you wish him well, he's gone and we reallocate that money somewhere else. Well, it's 5 more years. He only signed for 7 to begin with. I can't imagine him opting out unless he hates Boston much more than he loves money.
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Post by bookiemetts on Aug 21, 2017 20:48:21 GMT -5
Thank god Dave and Gomes switched mics
Edit: Nope, Jonny Darth Vader Gomes is back and DOB sounds like he's talking through a tin can
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 21, 2017 20:49:01 GMT -5
Some extra runs of course would be so nice.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 21, 2017 20:50:49 GMT -5
If Price's elbow is really that shot, I'd love to see him air everything he has left out of the bullpen and have the Tommy John surgery after the season. Makes sense. What do you really have to lose there anyways? It sounds like surgery is inevitable at this point. Because the Sox would be stuck with him for seven additional seasons at $30M/yr. Pray he's healthy next year has a good year, he opts out, you wish him well, he's gone and we reallocate that money somewhere else. If Price came back strong after Tommy John surgery like John Lackey did, then no you don't want Price opting out. Don't understand this logic. Price is one of the better pitchers in baseball when healthy.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Aug 21, 2017 20:51:48 GMT -5
Because the Sox would be stuck with him for seven additional seasons at $30M/yr. Pray he's healthy next year has a good year, he opts out, you wish him well, he's gone and we reallocate that money somewhere else. Well, it's 5 more years. He only signed for 7 to begin with. I can't imagine him opting out unless he hates Boston much more than he loves money. Yes 5, but if he has a good year he'll opt out because 1 GM will be foolish enough to offer more. I think the idea all along was to hope he opts out after performing well. Who wants to pay any pitcher that old that kind of money. The only reason being that that was the only way to land top notch pitchers.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 21, 2017 20:54:06 GMT -5
Well, it's 5 more years. He only signed for 7 to begin with. I can't imagine him opting out unless he hates Boston much more than he loves money. Yes 5, but if he has a good year he'll opt out because 1 GM will be foolish enough to offer more. I think the idea all along was to hope he opts out after performing well. Who wants to pay any pitcher that old that kind of money. The only reason being that that was the only way to land top notch pitchers. If he is hurt, most likely he won't be pitching well next year.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 21, 2017 20:54:46 GMT -5
Kelly doing a nice job against the bottom of the order here.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 21, 2017 20:55:39 GMT -5
Kelly's looking good.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 21, 2017 20:55:47 GMT -5
Well, it's 5 more years. He only signed for 7 to begin with. I can't imagine him opting out unless he hates Boston much more than he loves money. Yes 5, but if he has a good year he'll opt out because 1 GM will be foolish enough to offer more. I think the idea all along was to hope he opts out after performing well. Who wants to pay any pitcher that old that kind of money. The only reason being that that was the only way to land top notch pitchers. He'd have to pitch really really well next year, like top 10 Cy Young good for him to even think about opting out. He wasn't worth $30 million last year when he was healthy and this year is lost. Who would pay significantly more than $30 million a year for more than 4 years for a 33 year old pitcher who has had 1 good year out of his last 3?
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Post by cutz on Aug 21, 2017 20:56:00 GMT -5
Lets get some runs here, boys.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 21, 2017 20:56:12 GMT -5
Mookie Betts is the best defensive player in all of baseball. There I said it and it's true.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 21, 2017 20:56:14 GMT -5
Yes 5, but if he has a good year he'll opt out because 1 GM will be foolish enough to offer more. I think the idea all along was to hope he opts out after performing well. Who wants to pay any pitcher that old that kind of money. The only reason being that that was the only way to land top notch pitchers. Realistically, would pay him that? Dodgers, Yanks, Cubs. Not sure who else (Nats, Angels). If a GM added another year on to it, even if the total is same, maybe. Just don't know who else could be in play at 31 mill.
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Post by brendan98 on Aug 21, 2017 20:58:09 GMT -5
Carson Smith with his first clean inning for the Paw Sox, struck out 2. Be interested to hear his velocity, hopefully he's getting close.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 21, 2017 20:58:25 GMT -5
odd box score - Betts and Bogaerts 0 for 2 combined with 5 walks
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 21, 2017 20:58:38 GMT -5
You just don't want Price opting out if he comes back after Tommy John surgery and looks like David Price all over again. I can't stress that enough.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 21, 2017 20:59:01 GMT -5
Nice job by Kelly, but he hung that last one.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 21, 2017 20:59:51 GMT -5
Raffy's swing has gotten a bit big the past two games...pitchers are adjusting.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Aug 21, 2017 21:00:20 GMT -5
Yes 5, but if he has a good year he'll opt out because 1 GM will be foolish enough to offer more. I think the idea all along was to hope he opts out after performing well. Who wants to pay any pitcher that old that kind of money. The only reason being that that was the only way to land top notch pitchers. If he is hurt, most likely he won't be pitching well next year. ? which is what started this. We have to pray he's healthy next year. Price is a damn good pitcher when healthy but we don't want to be paying him in the last 4 years of his deal post 30 years old $30/yr. It rarely ever is worth it
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 21, 2017 21:00:24 GMT -5
You just don't want Price opting out if he comes back after Tommy John surgery and looks like David Price all over again. I can't stress that enough. I don't know, we can give the money to Sale and let him pitch for us until his mid 30's
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 21, 2017 21:01:18 GMT -5
If he is hurt, most likely he won't be pitching well next year. ? which is what started this. We have to pray he's healthy next year. Price is a damn good pitcher when healthy but we don't want to be paying him in the last 4 years of his deal post 30 years old $30/yr. It rarely ever is worth it It's also why it's almost guaranteed that no other team would pay more. It's also the same offseason that there are 100 better free agents available like Kershaw.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 21, 2017 21:01:28 GMT -5
You just don't want Price opting out if he comes back after Tommy John surgery and looks like David Price all over again. I can't stress that enough. I don't know, we can give the money to Sale and let him pitch for us until his mid 30's Pay both of them. This is the Boston Red Sox.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 21, 2017 21:03:34 GMT -5
I don't know, we can give the money to Sale and let him pitch for us until his mid 30's Pay both of them. I don't think you can afford 2 - 30 mill/year pitchers. Plus there is Bryce Harper to think about.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 21, 2017 21:03:53 GMT -5
I don't know, we can give the money to Sale and let him pitch for us until his mid 30's Pay both of them. This is the Boston Red Sox. We'll have to have a debate in the offseason about this. I am leaning towards that it's not a given we're going over the luxury tax threshold again with the new CBA rules.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 21, 2017 21:04:56 GMT -5
I don't think you can afford 2 - 30 mill/year pitchers. Plus there is Bryce Harper to think about. I'd be okay with it. No to Harper. He's made for New York anyways. They'll love that a-hole up there.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Aug 21, 2017 21:05:19 GMT -5
Yes 5, but if he has a good year he'll opt out because 1 GM will be foolish enough to offer more. I think the idea all along was to hope he opts out after performing well. Who wants to pay any pitcher that old that kind of money. The only reason being that that was the only way to land top notch pitchers. Realistically, would pay him that? Dodgers, Yanks, Cubs. Not sure who else (Nats, Angels). If a GM added another year on to it, even if the total is same, maybe. Just don't know who else could be in play at 31 mill. When is the last time a player had an option out that he they didn't end up with more money? If he's hurt we are screwed, if he's healthy next year that is a gift to the Sox teams down the road
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