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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 14, 2018 20:48:27 GMT -5
Not quite as poetic, but it'll certainly work. I'll leave the poetry to Robert Frost. How have you been ?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 14, 2018 20:52:53 GMT -5
Well, that is a blown opportunity at a win.
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Post by Guidas on May 14, 2018 20:53:42 GMT -5
Lord, I hate losing winnable games to sub-.500 teams almost as much as I hate losing winnable games to that New York team.
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Post by Coreno on May 14, 2018 20:53:47 GMT -5
Swihart DFA coming in a week or two when Pedroia comes back, right?
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Post by benogliviesbrother on May 14, 2018 20:53:55 GMT -5
Get 'em tomorrow.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 14, 2018 20:54:18 GMT -5
dang...we are now 1-3 against the A's this year. That must stop tomorrow.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on May 14, 2018 20:56:51 GMT -5
Not quite as poetic, but it'll certainly work. I'll leave the poetry to Robert Frost. How have you been ? "Poetic" in a baseball sense -- part of the age old lexicon. Like "That's some good ol' country hardball," or "You can't steal first base." I've been well. Thank you for asking.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 14, 2018 21:51:01 GMT -5
Johnny Gomes coming out with heat right away by brilliantly pointing out that the A’s starting pitchers have more losses than the Sox, “so we’ll see what happens”. Gomes always reminds me of this Scott Steiner promo: (If you want to see the original, which is hilarious:)
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Post by dirtdog on May 14, 2018 22:06:33 GMT -5
Honestly I cant figure out how Oakland remains remotely competitive when they run any talent they have out of town before they get close to having to pay them. Seems to happen year after year.
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Post by James Dunne on May 15, 2018 8:46:01 GMT -5
Why did NESN get rid of Orsillo? We have OB rambling on about drive-in movies and pay phones. ... Unlike Orsillo? Look, I loved Orsillo, he called a great game, but I think people remember him through sort of rose-colored glasses. People would complain a ton about him and Remy chortling their way through the broadcast talking about various inane topics. I had a Padres game on a couple weeks ago and he was going back with Mark Grant for like three innings about which side of the booth they preferred to sit on. My two problems with O'Brien are that, as a radio guy, he tends to fill more space than is necessary for television, and the way he exacerbates the pace of play problem by talking about it every time the game slows to a halt. It's the exact same thing as sitting in traffic with my four year old and she's complaining that we're going too slowly. YOU'RE NOT HELPING, ALICE. But in general I think he's very good and that we've been spoiled. I think NESN does a terrible job in general though, introducing fans to nuance and a deeper understanding of the game. Runs + RBI - Games? Really, Jonny Gomes? That's your stat? Basically what I'm saying is Sean McDonough or bust.
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 15, 2018 11:56:40 GMT -5
I am OK with O'Brien for the most part, but his broadcasting partners can have quite an impact - to me, he clearly doesn't know how to even respond to half of the inane things spouting from Gomes mouth (how many swiss army knives can we endure per inning?). Same with Timlin - nice guy, but wow....boredom. Eck is a pretty good partner and they have decent chemistry.
Remy is Remy - an institution that I suspect most love, and a few don't (I love it when he calls the city "Tamper"!)
When it comes down to it, there isn't a huge difference between O'Brien and Orsillo in their deliveries and approach, I think.
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Post by radiohix on May 15, 2018 14:36:55 GMT -5
Game 3 projected starter
So we'll probably have Cahill instead
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Post by radiohix on May 15, 2018 16:21:14 GMT -5
C. Vazquez SLG% .217 S. Leon SLG% .234 Z. Greinke SLG% .429
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Post by bosox on May 15, 2018 17:32:51 GMT -5
I am OK with O'Brien for the most part, but his broadcasting partners can have quite an impact - to me, he clearly doesn't know how to even respond to half of the inane things spouting from Gomes mouth (how many swiss army knives can we endure per inning?). Same with Timlin - nice guy, but wow....boredom. Eck is a pretty good partner and they have decent chemistry. Remy is Remy - an institution that I suspect most love, and a few don't (I love it when he calls the city "Tamper"!) When it comes down to it, there isn't a huge difference between O'Brien and Orsillo in their deliveries and approach, I think. I should of used italics in my post. This is what I was sarcastically questioning in why did NESN get rid of Orsillo. There isn't a huge difference between them - so why make the move. Listening to OB do national tv broadcasts for a few times was good. For me, listening to him every night is painful - with pace of play, the whole jinx thing and off the wall ramblings. I agree in that Sean McDonough would be great to bring back. Eck is awesome. Gomes and Timlin - no thanks. I thought Todd Walker did a good job last year. If I had to pick, it would be Eck and McDonough every game.
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Post by incandenza on May 15, 2018 17:45:19 GMT -5
My two problems with O'Brien are that, as a radio guy, he tends to fill more space than is necessary for television, and the way he exacerbates the pace of play problem by talking about it every time the game slows to a halt. It's the exact same thing as sitting in traffic with my four year old and she's complaining that we're going too slowly. YOU'RE NOT HELPING, ALICE. But in general I think he's very good and that we've been spoiled. I think NESN does a terrible job in general though, introducing fans to nuance and a deeper understanding of the game. Runs + RBI - Games? Really, Jonny Gomes? That's your stat? Basically what I'm saying is Sean McDonough or bust. I agree with all of that. Every single day, without fail, I am surprised when O'Brien starts talking about pitcher wins as if it's a stat that means anything. I never even think about pitcher's wins, and then he mentions it like it's only slightly less important than the outcome of the game, and you'd think I'd get used to it but it genuinely surprises me every time. But yeah, Sox broadcasters stand out for being waaaay behind the times in the way they talk about stats. Not many broadcasters are going into like xFIP or wRC+ or whatever, but believe it or not they will mention advanced stats from time to time. The Sox' guys haven't gotten past OPS, and like I said: pitcher's wins. You'd think the Red Sox would have one of the more sophisticated fan bases too, so I don't know why they're so backwards. Having said all that, O'Brien has a dulcet voice, and he calls the action well, which is an underrated skill (as I have learned from being subjected to John Sterling's stammerings; with him you just have to wait til the play is over and he can sort of collect himself to describe what just happened). That's basically good enough for me.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 15, 2018 17:58:46 GMT -5
Anxious to see if ERod lights up the gun again tonight. Would also love to see the guy attack hitters and get 7 innings for our guys.
Need to play better and keep the A's in check tonight.
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Post by trajanacc on May 15, 2018 18:26:47 GMT -5
My two problems with O'Brien are that, as a radio guy, he tends to fill more space than is necessary for television, and the way he exacerbates the pace of play problem by talking about it every time the game slows to a halt. It's the exact same thing as sitting in traffic with my four year old and she's complaining that we're going too slowly. YOU'RE NOT HELPING, ALICE. But in general I think he's very good and that we've been spoiled. I think NESN does a terrible job in general though, introducing fans to nuance and a deeper understanding of the game. Runs + RBI - Games? Really, Jonny Gomes? That's your stat? Basically what I'm saying is Sean McDonough or bust. I agree with all of that. Every single day, without fail, I am surprised when O'Brien starts talking about pitcher wins as if it's a stat that means anything. I never even think about pitcher's wins, and then he mentions it like it's only slightly less important than the outcome of the game, and you'd think I'd get used to it but it genuinely surprises me every time. But yeah, Sox broadcasters stand out for being waaaay behind the times in the way they talk about stats. Not many broadcasters are going into like xFIP or wRC+ or whatever, but believe it or not they will mention advanced stats from time to time. The Sox' guys haven't gotten past OPS, and like I said: pitcher's wins. You'd think the Red Sox would have one of the more sophisticated fan bases too, so I don't know why they're so backwards. Having said all that, O'Brien has a dulcet voice, and he calls the action well, which is an underrated skill (as I have learned from being subjected to John Sterling's stammerings; with him you just have to wait til the play is over and he can sort of collect himself to describe what just happened). That's basically good enough for me. Having grown up in Boston and been a Sox fan since '88, I have talked Sox with a lot of different people over the years. I also post on message boards of several other sports teams. I can say quite confidently that most of the people posting here are WAY more intelligent, insightful, and stats/numbers oriented than the average fan. We do not represent an accurate cross-section of Red Sox nation at all. Your average Sox fan, even guys that are into sports and have watched for years and talk about it all the time with their buddies, probably doesn't know what a WAR is or anything statistical beyond the box score basics. Then there's people like my Mom, who has been watching for 43 years and still needs me to explain when they need to tag runners and when it's a force. NESN announcers need to cater to that massive audience, not to us. I do think you're right though that they could at least do a better job of introducing some of those things to the fanbase. Paying attention to advanced stats, which I didn't really until the last 5-10 years, has certainly improved my understanding of the game and player performances.
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Post by Guidas on May 15, 2018 20:14:18 GMT -5
Finding new and inventive ways to make outs on the bases.
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Post by cotuitfan on May 15, 2018 20:15:25 GMT -5
Brutal
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 15, 2018 20:17:48 GMT -5
at this point Cora has to create a penalty for the players stupidity on the basepaths.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 15, 2018 20:21:24 GMT -5
I don't think I have the patience tonight to watch this stuff. The base running error was really egregious.
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Post by Guidas on May 15, 2018 20:22:22 GMT -5
Between giving up outs on the bases and not being able to keep the ball in the yard, if the Sox don’t wake up they will lose another home series to a sub-.500 team, if not get swept.
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Post by cotuitfan on May 15, 2018 20:22:22 GMT -5
I'm actually tired of the Christian Vazquez myth ... he does not call a good game. Piscotty not even close to two high fastballs so CV calls for an inside slider. I just don't think he can call pitches.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 15, 2018 20:22:25 GMT -5
Benintendi is having a tough time right now.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 15, 2018 20:25:10 GMT -5
I'm actually tired of the Christian Vazquez myth ... he does not call a good game. Piscotty not even close to two high fastballs so CV calls for an inside slider. I just don't think he can call pitches. I think everyone has Christian Vasquez fatigue at this point.
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