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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 30, 2013 22:55:12 GMT -5
Well, we're not all the same, genetically speaking. If both shoulders have had to undergo labrum surgery, that's a likely target in my book. I know there's a real desire to try to analyze the whys of something like this, the exercise regime, the diet, all of that. Sometimes it's just who you are.
Well into her late seventies, my mom was still climbing three flights of stairs a day. In her early eighties I had to pull her back as she was preparing to jump into the prow of my brother's motor boat which curved at least two feet away from the dock. Thing is she probably would have made it, she's still that limber. And she worked like a dog her whole life.
Why is the sky blue?
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Post by remember04 on Jan 30, 2013 23:20:27 GMT -5
Well into her late seventies, my mom was still climbing three flights of stairs a day. In her early eighties I had to pull her back as she was preparing to jump into the prow of my brother's motor boat which curved at least two feet away from the dock. Thing is she probably would have made it, she's still that limber. And she worked like a dog her whole life.Why is the sky blue? That's my guess and a lot of other peoples too probably.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 31, 2013 0:10:36 GMT -5
Dan Roche @rochiewbz Sources: Ryan Kalish recovery time from shoulder surgery is 6-8 months, hopefully only 6. Been a tough few yrs for a good kid. #RedSox #wbz I would love to see a recap of his shoulder/neck surgeries.......what was done when and why with some detail. It is hard to understand, without that, why he has had to repeatedly undergo the knife. Apparently the Sox medical staff is among those who don't come off well in Francona's new book. To paraphrase something I saw on the ESPN Boston blog, it's something like there were more egos on the medical staff than in the locker room. That could certainly have played a part.
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Post by mredsox89 on Jan 31, 2013 2:51:15 GMT -5
I would love to see a recap of his shoulder/neck surgeries.......what was done when and why with some detail. It is hard to understand, without that, why he has had to repeatedly undergo the knife. Apparently the Sox medical staff is among those who don't come off well in Francona's new book. To paraphrase something I saw on the ESPN Boston blog, it's something like there were more egos on the medical staff than in the locker room. That could certainly have played a part. Was posting 6-8 months just a typo that was supposed to be 6-8 weeks? All reports were that he was likely just going to miss ST. I had the same surgery on my throwing shoulder back in HS, and recovery was 1-2 months, certainly nowhere near 6 months
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Post by jmei on Jan 31, 2013 8:38:29 GMT -5
Comparable cases (B.J. Upton, Adrian Gonzalez) of labrum surgery on the non-throwing shoulder sidelined those players for roughly five months, so I wouldn't expect Kalish back until June or July at the earliest.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jan 31, 2013 10:35:20 GMT -5
I can't stand it!! When will this kid get a break? No not that kind of break. He's had enough of those. I was hoping he would platoon with Gomes around June 1. Go Nava!?
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 3, 2013 21:12:14 GMT -5
This is going to be one of those "why should we believe you?" types of posts. All I can say is there is little reason for any of you to, but I'm going to say it any ways. I know people with inside connections to these things and the Red Sox medical & training staffs have been a mess over the past few years. I cannot speak to changes that were made since the start of last (2012) season, but unless things did a 180 over the previous few years, there is little reason to have much faith in what they are doing. I think we all know enough at this point that not all professional sports teams have top notch staffs when it comes to these things. Often times, it doesn't have to do with the doctors or trainers not being good at something. The process by which they go about things could suck or the things those people are asked to do may not go beyond the scope of what they are experts at. In the Red Sox case it's a little bit of everything, including neglegence and people treating players who are not supposed to be.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 4, 2013 16:31:53 GMT -5
This is going to be one of those "why should we believe you?" types of posts. All I can say is there is little reason for any of you to, but I'm going to say it any ways. I know people with inside connections to these things and the Red Sox medical & training staffs have been a mess over the past few years. I cannot speak to changes that were made since the start of last (2012) season, but unless things did a 180 over the previous few years, there is little reason to have much faith in what they are doing. I think we all know enough at this point that not all professional sports teams have top notch staffs when it comes to these things. Often times, it doesn't have to do with the doctors or trainers not being good at something. The process by which they go about things could suck or the things those people are asked to do may not go beyond the scope of what they are experts at. In the Red Sox case it's a little bit of everything, including neglegence and people treating players who are not supposed to be. I'm not sure this is necessarily inside info. I'm not saying you don't know things we don't, but a) there has been house-cleaning in that department each of the past two offseasons, and b) I believe Francona calls the medical staff out in his book. In Kalish's case, the initial decision to try to let him rehab his initial shoulder injury without surgery looks like massive folly in hindsight. At best, he lost the time wasted between then and the surgery itself, and at worst it led to the neck injury that cost him even more time.
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Post by rjp313jr on Feb 4, 2013 21:47:33 GMT -5
Wasn't giving away any inside information. Most definitely wouldn't do that for many reasons. Just adding to your point about the shoddy medical staff and trying to bring another source to it. Didn't want people thinking that Tito is possibly crying sour grapes. At least for a period it was a horror show.
I really hope this is an emphasis for them to truly fix. Simply cleaning house doesn't improve things; often times it makes it worse. In the city the opperate , there is no good reason why they shouldn't have top notch medical personel. It's inexcusable. It reeks of mismanagement.
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