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Post by manfred on Jul 10, 2018 21:12:36 GMT -5
i love Vasquez, but having Swihart get real time at catcher is a great thing. It is hard to have a guy go from top prospect to not getting a chance so quickly.
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Post by telson13 on Jul 10, 2018 21:15:04 GMT -5
This team sure looks like a juggernaut right now. They’ve been consistently outstanding pretty much all year. Finding Brasier, getting Pearce, and keeping Swihart look like gloriously prescient moves right now.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jul 10, 2018 21:15:14 GMT -5
AND THE YANKEES LOSE!!!!!
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Post by dd on Jul 10, 2018 21:15:23 GMT -5
O's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 10, 2018 21:16:47 GMT -5
Orioles go for the SERIES WIN tomorrow!
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Post by telson13 on Jul 10, 2018 21:18:14 GMT -5
Booyeah! Orioles take the Yanks down in the bottom of the 9th!!! 3.5 games up!!
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 10, 2018 21:19:57 GMT -5
What's the over/under on how many spots Brasier moves up in the 8/1 rankings? :-) (Meanwhile, LET'S GO O'S!!) 0, he's 30 ?
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Post by radiohix on Jul 10, 2018 21:21:19 GMT -5
Booyeah! Orioles take the Yanks down in the bottom of the 9th!!! 3.5 games up!! According to some posters here, the yanks never lose games to O's and Jays.I have to say I'm shocked!
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 10, 2018 21:22:27 GMT -5
Zach Britton, a Sox trade candidate, was 94-96 mph according to statcast in the top of the ninth and struck out 2 Yankees. The real Zach Britton is back.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 10, 2018 21:25:15 GMT -5
Booyeah! Orioles take the Yanks down in the bottom of the 9th!!! 3.5 games up!! According to some posters here, the yanks never lose games to O's and Jays.I have to say I'm shocked! Shocked!.......Shocked I say!!
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Post by voiceofreason on Jul 10, 2018 21:35:21 GMT -5
I could be on the hook for that, hope not, but they have won 7 in a row since leaving NY. STOP IT! Yeah yeah..... Off the hook
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Post by nomar on Jul 10, 2018 21:37:26 GMT -5
Ellsbury looked like a potential perennial MVP candidate too after 2011 (even with expected HR/FB regression), but then Reid Brignac had to go destroy Ellsbury’s should with his replacement level rear end. We'll have to disagree there, Ellsbury was never in the class of "best". He wasn't that good a hitter and had poor strike zone judgement which means his lack of walks took from his speed. He also had no arm. We've had several far better players Lynn, Rice, Nomar, Fisk, debatably Evens. He was fun to watch though. In 2011 he literally was the best
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Post by Guidas on Jul 10, 2018 21:38:31 GMT -5
NYY loses.
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Post by GyIantosca on Jul 10, 2018 21:45:12 GMT -5
I said it already. I watched the Yanks and there a great team but they are tailor made for there ballpark. ESPN shows the bombs but there are a lot of cheap ones also. They be playing a little more at home also. They are on a road trip right now. There a little different on the road.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 10, 2018 22:03:03 GMT -5
Zach Britton, a Sox trade candidate, was 94-96 mph according to statcast in the top of the ninth and struck out 2 Yankees. The real Zach Britton is back. If we get him we go over the luxury tax and fall 10 draft spots, in addition to whatever prospects we have to give. Not worth it.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 10, 2018 22:09:02 GMT -5
Zach Britton, a Sox trade candidate, was 94-96 mph according to statcast in the top of the ninth and struck out 2 Yankees. The real Zach Britton is back. If we get him we go over the luxury tax and fall 10 draft spots, in addition to whatever prospects we have to give. Not worth it. If you trade Nunez on top of Pomeranz, you can stay under. Either that or get creative and get cash thrown in. I don't know if Dombrowski will be holding back. He might go for the jugular here. There are multiple reports from multiple sources tying the Sox with Britton and I don't see it going away until Britton is traded.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 10, 2018 22:26:20 GMT -5
Thanks to Machado. Those two game-tying homers are his way of flirting with NY.
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Post by jbuttah on Jul 10, 2018 22:26:56 GMT -5
i love Vasquez, but having Swihart get real time at catcher is a great thing. It is hard to have a guy go from top prospect to not getting a chance so quickly. Watching Swihart catch tonight, I thought he framed pitches better than Vazquez. He rarely stabbed at a pitch, giving the umpire a good look at the pitch. When he tried to steal a borderline pitch by bringing it back into the zone, he did it quicker and with more subtlety than Vazquez who makes it more obvious. That's what I saw anyway.
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Post by patford on Jul 10, 2018 22:37:28 GMT -5
Not that he deserved it but how does Beeks not get the win ?
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jul 10, 2018 22:45:38 GMT -5
Not that he deserved it but how does Beeks not get the win ? I think if the starter doesn't go 5 innings (and would have gotten the win otherwise) then the official scorer can choose which reliever gets the win.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 10, 2018 22:46:03 GMT -5
Not that he deserved it but how does Beeks not get the win ? It's the scorekeepers decision to come up with who had the best line in the win before the hold or save. The scorekeeper decided it was Barnes because of the quality inning.
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Post by patford on Jul 10, 2018 22:51:06 GMT -5
Not that he deserved it but how does Beeks not get the win ? I looked it up. This is a new one on me and I watched Yaz in left field when I was a kid. The official scorer can give the win to whoever the official scorer decides was the most effective relief pitcher. I never knew that and I would assume it almost never happens that the official scorer invokes the rule.
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Post by patford on Jul 10, 2018 22:52:52 GMT -5
Not that he deserved it but how does Beeks not get the win ? It's the scorekeepers decision to come up with who had the best line in the win before the hold or save. The scorekeeper decided it was Barnes because of the quality inning. Not exactly because Workman was credited with a hold and he pitched prior to Barnes.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 10, 2018 22:54:33 GMT -5
It's the scorekeepers decision to come up with who had the best line in the win before the hold or save. The scorekeeper decided it was Barnes because of the quality inning. Not exactly because Workman was credited with a hold and he pitched prior to Barnes. Barnes was better than Workman. I guess holds can come before the winning pitcher also. Didn't know that until now. Always use to looking at the winning pitcher before a hold.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 11, 2018 0:19:13 GMT -5
Simply amazing.
I've been a fan since 1980 and only 1 other time in all my fandom have I ever seen the Sox be 35 games above .500, and that occurred on the next to last day of the 2004 season when they were 98-63 and playing in garbage time. The Sox lost the last game of the season which was meaningless and wound up 98-64.
This year's team is only 93 games in.
The defense was stellar. Velazquez did a solid job. He and Johnson have really stepped up in the emergency starter roles this season.
I wasn't overly impressed by Beeks and Workman's fastball doesn't look to crisp, although he has that nasty hook. Barnes was awesome. Kelly looked good and Brasier did a good job. I thought Cora would hold Brasier for tomorrow and go with Thornburg tonight, but maybe the game was still too close?
Obviously it's nice to see JBJ doing well offensively, but the thing that I enjoyed most was watching Swihart get two solid knocks while the earth didn't spin off its axis because he was behind the plate.
Makes you wonder what they were so scared of. Swihart is starting to swing the bat better and with consistent ABs I think he'd become a solid hitting catcher. But that can't happen if he only catches twice a week or less, which was the case with Vazquez around. It was like Vazquez was holding him back while being very mediocre. You don't want guys to get hurt but this could really work to the Sox' advantage.
The pitchers pitch better when they throw to Leon. Leon hasn't been an automatic out at the plate. Swihart could start hitting - I anticipate that after that awful start his numbers will quickly jump ahead of Vazquez and then eventually Leon's. He just needs a chance.
And I wouldn't expect Vazquez back until around Sept 1st (I'd expect a rehab to get him to that date), so if Swihart does the job as a backup, somehow he will have survived the year as a Red Sox. Maybe that will be the break that catapults him into a potential starting catching gig for the Sox in 2019. Or at least I hope so At least he's getting something of a chance finally.
And to make things even better, the MFYs lost to Baltimore of all teams, so the Sox have some daylight with their 3.5 game lead. I anticipate the Yankees will heat back up, but it's great to see the Sox playing so well.
And with Sale going tomorrow, the Sox might boldly go where I've never seen them go before - 36 games above .500!
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