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Post by alnipper on Jul 26, 2018 11:32:04 GMT -5
MLBPipline has a new the top 100 out and we have 0 prospects on it. That does not surprise me at all. I wonder how many we would have in the Top 200 even? The guy I never wanted us to trade Logan Allen made it on there at 90. The Sox minor league system is the weakest I have seen it coming int this year. With our injuries and PED issue 0 came as no surprise.
Is Devers our last elite prospect for 5 years?
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Post by cdj on Jul 26, 2018 12:52:56 GMT -5
I may be alone But I feel a lot better about the system today than I did coming into the season
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Post by soxin8 on Jul 26, 2018 13:05:05 GMT -5
I may be alone But I feel a lot better about the system today than I did coming into the season You are not alone.The early returns on the current draft make it look like it has a chance to be the best one since Mookie. Better health for the top prospects next year should also make a big difference.
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Post by huskies15 on Jul 26, 2018 15:33:37 GMT -5
I kind of agree, but it still feels like we have a bunch of solid-average potential guys. Need a guy to really pop. The depth FEELS better, but almost all of that is in the low minors which comes with a good bit of wishing
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Post by soxfan511 on Jul 26, 2018 15:34:52 GMT -5
Bobby Dalbec should be in the top 100 with his power production and three plus tools
Mata might be top 100
Houck might end up in the top 100 soon
Once groome comes back he'll be top 100
Chavis working his way back into top 100
Casas, shawaryn, northcutt, decker, Flores, Diaz, Ockimey, Duran, Lopez all have serious potential as future top 100 guys
I'm optimistic
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 26, 2018 15:59:39 GMT -5
Bobby Dalbec should be in the top 100 with his power production and three plus tools Mata might be top 100 Houck might end up in the top 100 soon Once groome comes back he'll be top 100 Chavis working his way back into top 100 Casas, shawaryn, northcutt, decker, Flores, Diaz, Ockimey, Duran, Lopez all have serious potential as future top 100 guys I'm optimistic Just a little...
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 26, 2018 16:01:50 GMT -5
Bobby Dalbec should be in the top 100 with his power production and three plus tools His power and his arm, obviously, are two. What is the third?
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Post by alnipper on Jul 26, 2018 16:31:29 GMT -5
His swing and miss? I just look at what the Yankees or Dodgers have done compared to us since the new rules started and shake my head. I liked last years approach to International free agency better. Maybe Flores would of been our next Devers. I realize these kids are 16, but we need try to get potential stars. Lets trade with Baltimore for more International Cap Money. They do not need it lol
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Post by soxfan511 on Jul 26, 2018 16:46:36 GMT -5
Bobby Dalbec should be in the top 100 with his power production and three plus tools Mata might be top 100 Houck might end up in the top 100 soon Once groome comes back he'll be top 100 Chavis working his way back into top 100 Casas, shawaryn, northcutt, decker, Flores, Diaz, Ockimey, Duran, Lopez all have serious potential as future top 100 guys I'm optimistic Just a little... Do you disagree with anything I said?
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Post by soxfan511 on Jul 26, 2018 16:48:41 GMT -5
Bobby Dalbec should be in the top 100 with his power production and three plus tools His power and his arm, obviously, are two. What is the third? I think the glove could be a plus as well
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 26, 2018 17:02:10 GMT -5
His swing and miss? I just look at what the Yankees or Dodgers have done compared to us since the new rules started and shake my head. I liked last years approach to International free agency better. Maybe Flores would of been our next Devers. I realize these kids are 16, but we need try to get potential stars. Lets trade with Baltimore for more International Cap Money. They do not need it lol I don't really think that's fair, as the major difference was the Yankees sucked and had a huge return at the deadline a couple years ago. Unless you think we should trade Kimbrel just so you feel better about the farm system. We have like 15 guys that could be top 100 guys. Groome and Chavis are still here. Basing a system off of only that is not a great way to look at it.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 26, 2018 17:39:54 GMT -5
Do you disagree with anything I said? Of the 14 guys you mentioned, I'd be shocked if more than 6-7 of them ever reach the top 100.
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Post by alnipper on Jul 26, 2018 18:14:21 GMT -5
I'm basing it on free agency in combination with our farm system. Keep in mind DD might/probably will trade lots of players.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 27, 2018 2:49:34 GMT -5
Bobby Dalbec should be in the top 100 with his power production and three plus tools Mata might be top 100 Houck might end up in the top 100 soon Once groome comes back he'll be top 100 Chavis working his way back into top 100 Casas, shawaryn, northcutt, decker, Flores, Diaz, Ockimey, Duran, Lopez all have serious potential as future top 100 guys I'm optimistic Just a little... Yeah, including a guy who wasn't even a top 20 prospect in the most recent international class as someone who has serious potential to be a top 100 overall prospect may just be a tad optimistic (although including Shawaryn and Ockimey and that list may be even more so).
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Post by Ryanod1 on Jul 27, 2018 10:25:36 GMT -5
I have been a little skeptical of the MLB top 100 the last few years. I was just looking, and noticed we had zero in the top 100 as well. Where the skepticism comes from is the lower half ratings on our system. I feel like at a certain point it becomes very difficult to predict a players future (which is true), but where it completely derails is their knowledge of our farm system. Dont get me wrong, im sure they have very good scouts and ways of doing things, but they certainly cannot know future potential of every teams players. So in the new update they have players like Williams Jerez, Jhonathan Diaz and Roniel Raudez in our top 20. We certainly have players with more upside than that group. To each their own I guess, but again you only can have so much knowledge of players in every single farm system.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 27, 2018 21:23:05 GMT -5
I may be alone But I feel a lot better about the system today than I did coming into the season For me: Better about the system from like, 8-20 About the same from like 3-8 Worse about the very top. Groome getting TJ was an enormous blow. I'm convinced he was set to take a huge step forward. It's nice to have a bunch of nice 45s and 40s, but when that's all you have, that's still a problem. Alex had Groome as the top prospect still in BA's updated top 10, and I completely get it - even with TJ, he's still got by far the highest ceiling and best chance to reach it. It's just that now there's much more significant downside potential.
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Post by voiceofreason on Jul 28, 2018 3:51:24 GMT -5
Take a look at all those faces at the top of the SP home page, that is A LOT of talent that came up thru the system over the past 5 seasons. I count 8 guys, and there are more, then throw on top of that Chris Sale and Kimbrel who were brought in on the strength of that farm system just to name 2 of the many brought in via trades for prospects. We are witnessing the best Sox team possibly in history thanks to the system so as a long time follower of this site I feel pretty good about what they have accomplished via the farm.
And take away some of the injuries/bad luck and the Sox might have a few players in that top 100. I wouldn't change a thing, everything may not have gone perfect but they have gone pretty damn well.
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Post by manfred on Jul 28, 2018 12:06:55 GMT -5
Speaking of Groome and TJ: is Brady Aiken out of baseball? I saw stories of him finally feeling healthy etc etc. but he has not played this year that I can see. He never came close to regaining his stuff after TJ. I’ve said before, people sometimes take that surgery for granted. It is by no means a sure thing.
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Post by Addam603 on Oct 3, 2018 19:46:33 GMT -5
Michae Chavis was one of the big risers in MLB 100’s post season re-ranking. All the way back up to #69 (Gronk approves). A strong finish to the year.
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Post by gerry on Oct 4, 2018 0:02:24 GMT -5
Michae Chavis was one of the big risers in MLB 100’s post season re-ranking. All the way back up to #69 (Gronk approves). A strong finish to the year. Plus Groome, we hope, by mid 2019 followed by Dalbec, Feltman, maybe Ockimey, Lakins in terms of proximity to the majors. More to come from the bottom up, and the worst seems over as the pipeline through the minors continues to fill. Miles to go, but judging from recent activity DDo is taking a mL rebuild seriously.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 4, 2018 0:19:05 GMT -5
I wouldn't expect Groome to fully comeback until 2020. They'll take their time with this one.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 4, 2018 0:25:05 GMT -5
Chavis is interesting to me. A player without a position but hits the ball with such velocity. Hit tool questionable too. Seems like a possible first base candidate next year, despite limited size. Possible JD Martinez replacement of he opts out by the end of 2019 as a DH. Possible trade candidate at any point.
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Post by Guidas on Oct 4, 2018 16:45:10 GMT -5
Chavis is interesting to me. A player without a position but hits the ball with such velocity. Hit tool questionable too. Seems like a possible first base candidate next year, despite limited size. Possible JD Martinez replacement of he opts out by the end of 2019 as a DH. Possible trade candidate at any point. He should get reps at 2nd base and LF just to give him some opportunity. I think he’s too short for first.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 4, 2018 20:24:32 GMT -5
I wouldn't expect Groome to fully comeback until 2020. They'll take their time with this one. Yeah given how late Groome had surgery his 2019 is mostly going to be a wash as well.
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Post by ramireja on Oct 5, 2018 12:31:08 GMT -5
Hot (or maybe not so hot) take: Tanner Houck with his original delivery and mechanics ( i.e., the Houck in his last 12 starts) would be make a Top 100 list but his dismal first half killed his overall numbers.
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