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The Red Sox Offseason Thread: Who do you want for 2019?
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Post by bbmalamute on Jan 10, 2019 19:44:22 GMT -5
I agree. Get Warren. Possibly one more bullpen piece if you can.
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Post by dirtdog on Jan 11, 2019 23:57:36 GMT -5
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 12, 2019 8:21:42 GMT -5
Try to sign Adam Warren 2 years 7 milion...a kick ass swingman in the AL east How many swingmen do we want in the bullpen?
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Post by telson13 on Jan 13, 2019 1:32:05 GMT -5
Try to sign Adam Warren 2 years 7 milion...a kick ass swingman in the AL east How many swingmen do we want in the bullpen? Eh, he’s been pretty exclusively short outings for a while, but he does have the ability to go multiple innings. I’m not entirely sold on Warren because his velocity’s backed up (and it’s been pretty variable anyway), but I do like the idea of getting a pretty solid contributor on a short, cheap deal. He’s only 31, and he could theoretically be stretched out in a pinch, which has value. And as noted, he’s had AL East success and he’s been pretty tough on RHH the past two years (with the SSS caveat re: splits, of course...idk if that’s accompanied by a real pitch mix/approach change). My sense is he’s basically a better version of Workman...but that’s not nothing, either. I like the idea of going depth with the bullpen and trading from that depth come ST/deadline. They’re bound to luck into a hot hand or two, which they’re gonna need if they don’t have a reliably elite guy at the back.
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Post by telson13 on Jan 13, 2019 2:09:51 GMT -5
Considering the current make up of the team, this is what I would like go see Dombrowski do by the end of January; Sign Dallas Keuchel (3yrs $66M) Name Eovaldi the Closer Sign Brad Brach (2yrs $14M) Trade Leon for a player who does not need to be added to the 40 man roster (most likely a ptbn) And then get to work on; Extending Porcello, (3 years $70M) Extending Bogaerts, (6 years $120M) You’re talking about a $260-something million payroll. Adding another expensive LHSP who’s in likely in decline, at a time when they’re needing to free $ up for extensions of the core, including Bogey and Betts. And, who may not be more than a win better than Johnson, their 6th starter. Converting a guy who’s never been a reliever for any extended time (and who doesn’t miss bats that much) to a *closer*, for $17M annually, making him the highest-paid closer in the game. Trading a C who is loved by the staff, and who seems to have a staff ERA skill, for ??...a PTBNL could theoretically be a quality low-level player, but who? Extending Bogey makes sense to me, but I think you’re light on years and possibly/probably AAV. And Porcello, while a solid pitcher, is not where they should be spending $23.3M annually when he’s basically a solid 2/3, with declining FB velocity and really no outstanding pitches, plus a propensity to (dependent on his allowing a lot of balls in play) have bad years due to BABIP fluctuations. I like Brach alright, but I’m not sure he’s demonstrably better than what they already have, and certainly not enough to drop $7M annually on. This just seems like a lot of wild, wasteful spending to me. Why not: 1) save the Keuchel $ and prepare to sign Sale or Cole next winter, for $5-7M more 2) keep Leon as a mentor to Swihart and trade Vazquez in a deal similar to what the Angels got for Kinsler, getting controllable young relief help and maybe a prospect lottery ticket arm 3) use the $14M from Brach to cover part of a more feasible Bogey deal 4) keep Eovaldi at the 2/3 spot in the rotation, and further groom him to replace Porcello, 5) using the money saved on Porcello to pay Mookie and potentially partly Sale/Cole. This team is well-off, but they don’t have unlimited funds, and carrying a monster payroll is going to start biting back on the talent acquisition front, including the all-important IFA $.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jan 14, 2019 21:19:30 GMT -5
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Post by jimoh on Jan 14, 2019 22:04:07 GMT -5
baseballcensus.com/2018/03/01/jair-jurrjens-daniel-schlereth-free-agent-pitcher-mlb-kbo-kt-wiz-game-video/"spent parts of four seasons (2009-2012) in the big leagues as a reliever. Schlereth had a decent year last summer [[2017]] in the Miami Marlins‘ organization (39:18 K:BB ratio, 6.5 H/9, 8.4 K/9 in 41.2 innings), but he’ll be 32 years old in eight weeks and he has a limited profile as a left-handed situational reliever working in short stints. On Thursday [[at March 2018 tryout vs KBO players]], Schlereth’s fastball sat 87-91 mph (four-seam 89-91, sinker 87-89), and he paired it with an extremely sharp, hard 76-79 mph curveball that drew some really bad swings from a few KBO veterans at the plate. As with Jair Jurrjens, age is an issue, but Daniel Schlereth appears to be a healthy lefty with a pulse and a good hook — so perhaps there’s another affiliated gig soon in the works."
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Post by elbochie on Jan 15, 2019 0:25:23 GMT -5
I wonder if Bannister can help him like he did Rich Hill
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Post by gerry on Jan 15, 2019 4:41:18 GMT -5
I wonder if Bannister can help him like he did Rich Hill Bannister and the pitching braintrust probably were influential in his signing. As was DDo who signed him in Detroit.
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Post by floridaredsox on Jan 15, 2019 6:41:23 GMT -5
I wonder if Bannister can help him like he did Rich Hill Bannister and the pitching braintrust probably were influential in his signing. As was DDo who signed him in Detroit. DD traded for Daniel Schlereth in the Max Scherzer (2009)
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Post by jimoh on Jan 15, 2019 7:01:20 GMT -5
Threw harder in college (long long ago) www.baseballamerica.com/stories/mlb-draft-2008-first-round-recap/26 [[in 2008]]. Arizona Diamondbacks Daniel Schlereth, lhp, Arizona B-T: L-L. Ht.: 6-0. Wt.: 210. Age: 22. Scouting Report The son of former NFL offensive lineman and current ESPN commentator Mark Schlereth, Daniel Schlereth was an eighth-round pick last year as a draft-eligible sophomore, having missed a year due to Tommy John surgery. Schlereth didn't sign and has come back improved as part of a devastating Arizona bullpen with three of the nation's best power arms. While teammate Ryan Perry figures to be drafted higher this year (and sophomore closer Jason Stoffel should go higher next year), Schlereth was making a case to go in the first two rounds by showing improved command and stuff from 2007. Schlereth finds the strike zone more consistently with his 90-94 mph fastball and at times has more velocity, sometimes sitting 94-96. His power breaking ball is a swing-and-miss pitch, and he's done a better job of throwing it for strikes. After a failed bid as a starter earlier in his career, Schlereth has shown the guts to challenge hitters with his stuff in a relief role and could be the rare lefthanded closer as a pro. The biggest question will be whether or not he can maintain his stuff while improving his control. He'll never have command with the effort he puts into his delivery, but he still doesn't throw as many quality strikes as he'll need to at higher levels. He's expected to be drafted in the first three rounds.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 15, 2019 9:48:19 GMT -5
Not sure how they'll be able to get his control in order. Schlereth walks a lot of guys, I mean a lot.
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Post by hanleybeingmanny on Jan 16, 2019 11:10:54 GMT -5
Considering the current make up of the team, this is what I would like go see Dombrowski do by the end of January; Sign Dallas Keuchel (3yrs $66M) Name Eovaldi the Closer Sign Brad Brach (2yrs $14M) Trade Leon for a player who does not need to be added to the 40 man roster (most likely a ptbn) And then get to work on; Extending Porcello, (3 years $70M) Extending Bogaerts, (6 years $120M) I don't think Porcello or Bogaerts get extensions, especially in this Bear market.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 16, 2019 12:37:01 GMT -5
So not to stifle creativity here, but at this point, the really "out there" trade/signing stuff should go in Trade Proposal. There's no indication that the org is going to make more than a couple of small moves at this point so there's no point to getting pie-in-the-sky unless we hear different.
Thanks.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 17, 2019 6:59:53 GMT -5
Derek Dietrich is a really interesting bat the Sox can get if Pedrioa doesn't get good news from the doctors in the next couple of weeks. He was non tendered by the Marlins earlier this off-season.
If I'm the Sox, I'd sign him to a major league deal. His defense looks bad, but 16 homeruns with a 109 wRC+ last year in over 500 at bats last year. That's a decent regular everyday player. He's got good on base and okay power it looks like. Good value guy, I'd think.
Not a big signing, but a great guy to target.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 17, 2019 11:51:17 GMT -5
Derek Dietrich is a really interesting bat the Sox can get if Pedrioa doesn't get good news from the doctors in the next couple of weeks. He was non tendered by the Marlins earlier this off-season. If I'm the Sox, I'd sign him to a major league deal. His defense looks bad, but 16 homeruns with a 109 wRC+ last year in over 500 at bats last year. That's a decent regular everyday player. He's got good on base and okay power it looks like. Good value guy, I'd think. Not a big signing, but a great guy to target. I'd rather give the at-bats to Lin, personally.
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Post by cotuitfan on Jan 17, 2019 12:14:11 GMT -5
What do I want for 2019? For the Red Sox to skip their planned trip to the White House. There, I said it. For everyone who thinks baseball should steer clear of politics, well, we've been hearing that for over 100 years. And look where it's gotten the sport in terms of popularity.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 17, 2019 12:21:28 GMT -5
What do I want for 2019? For the Red Sox to skip their planned trip to the White House. There, I said it. For everyone who thinks baseball should steer clear of politics, well, we've been hearing that for over 100 years. And look where it's gotten the sport in terms of popularity. And miss out on a chance for a free happy meal? No way.And I totally expect my post (felt the need for some sense of humor here) and the post I responded to will be moved as politics and sports don't mix here. Take it away mods! I have my opinions on this, but it blurs the line between politics and sports so I will refrain. We do enough bickering among ourselves while loving our Red Sox. Politics is a helluva lot more divisive.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 17, 2019 13:10:51 GMT -5
What do I want for 2019? For the Red Sox to skip their planned trip to the White House. There, I said it. For everyone who thinks baseball should steer clear of politics, well, we've been hearing that for over 100 years. And look where it's gotten the sport in terms of popularity. Yea being political these days makes you popular.
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Post by elbochie on Jan 17, 2019 15:12:35 GMT -5
"What do I want for 2019? For the Red Sox to skip their planned trip to the White House. There, I said it. For everyone who thinks baseball should steer clear of politics, well, we've been hearing that for over 100 years. And look where it's gotten the sport in terms of popularity"
I don't give a good shit about your opinion on politics...try to stay sane and talk baseball
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Post by jimoh on Jan 17, 2019 22:12:15 GMT -5
Yeah, I think we should stick to baseballl, and be glad that our organization is run and our team is managed by smart, sane, humble, mentally healthy guys without serious psychological problems. Remember when we had that deranged egotist Bobby V managing the team. What could be worse than that?
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Post by telson13 on Jan 17, 2019 22:56:05 GMT -5
Very disheartened that the Sox couldn’t work something out with a Ottavino in the 3/30 range. I think that’s quite a deal NY got.
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Post by kenster on Jan 18, 2019 0:07:31 GMT -5
They could have worked out a deal with any of them, but management is going to show you how smart they are with their analytics. Just a few adjustments to Erasmo Ramirez and Zach Putnam and we’re all set.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 18, 2019 0:58:24 GMT -5
They could have worked out a deal with any of them, but management is going to show you how smart they are with their analytics. Just a few adjustments to Erasmo Ramirez and Zach Putnam and we’re all set. Man, you just want to complain instead of trying to figure out why. Do you really think the Sox would have preferred not to bring back Kimbrel and/or sign one of these bullpen guys. It's not about them being egotistical to show you how smart they are with their analytics or whatever other BS you want. It's all about the money and getting under the luxury tax for 2020. If you give a crap about them trying to bring back two or three of Betts, Sale, Bogaerts, Martinez, Porcello, or Bradley and get under the cap so that they're not picking 35th every draft and losing international money every year to help them replenish their farm system, then maybe you'd have a clue why the Sox would rather spend their money elsewhere, especially when the only area they have depth in their mid to upper farm system is relief pitching.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 18, 2019 3:16:55 GMT -5
Very disheartened that the Sox couldn’t work something out with a Ottavino in the 3/30 range. I think that’s quite a deal NY got. FWIW, Ottavino might have taken less to play in New York. In fact, this is probably the case. This is a picture of him as a kid with his dad.
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