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Post by jrffam05 on Feb 27, 2013 20:24:39 GMT -5
They are very careful in st, so hopefully it is nothing serious. Apparently he walked straight off the field after the swing though.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 27, 2013 21:09:26 GMT -5
I don't have a good feeling about the injury to Middlebrooks. It's the same wrist that got hit last year. Apparently, there are still issues with it and trying to check his swing did a number on it. As John Farrell points out, the Sox are very vulnerable at 3b if WMB goes down for a significant period of time. The only options would be to try Brock Holt at 3b, which is a position he's never played, or try Drew at 3b with Iglesias at SS, which is a drain of the offense, or they could try to package their relief pitching depth for a serviceable 3b, somebody better than Pedro Ciriaco, who's second on the depth chart at 3b, which is a scary thought.
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Post by grandsalami on Feb 27, 2013 21:43:41 GMT -5
Tim Britton @timbritton Middlebrooks: "it's not as serious as we thought it was. It was just a scare.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Feb 27, 2013 22:14:53 GMT -5
Tim Britton @timbritton Middlebrooks: "it's not as serious as we thought it was. It was just a scare. Season's over.
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Post by remember04 on Feb 27, 2013 23:28:54 GMT -5
Tim Britton @timbritton Middlebrooks: "it's not as serious as we thought it was. It was just a scare. Yeah, and I damn near soiled myself.
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Post by James Dunne on Feb 28, 2013 8:09:36 GMT -5
I've made a conscious decision to allow myself to get far too excited about Christian Vazquez's eighth inning. That really was awesome.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Feb 28, 2013 12:19:24 GMT -5
I've made a conscious decision to allow myself to get far too excited about Christian Vazquez's eighth inning. That really was awesome. Baseball being the tight-knit society that it is, it doesn't take long for word to get around. A few throws like that and it will get filed away for future reference. It changes the feel of a game very quickly. Coaches and baserunners are more cautious and a lot more reluctant to put the catcher to the test. I'm eager to see how he adjusts to the pitching now that he's reached the upper levels of the minor league system. He won't be 23 till August, and he's only played 20 games in Portland so there's a lot left for him to figure out. He has some pop and his biggest asset is his patience. Those should, over time, work to his advantage. They have moved him very quickly and we got a taste of just why over the last few days. He has some serious defensive chops.
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Post by hammerhead on Feb 28, 2013 13:20:10 GMT -5
I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Vasquez becomes a good offensive catcher. He had a very good and underrated year at Greenville in 2011, last year he struggled early, picked it up and then got promoted to a new level. He has power, he has a good approach and he has decent batspeed. I could see him being a bit of a late bloomer, but catcher's often are and the offensive threshold for catcher's is pretty low as far as value from a good/great defender. I remember that pitcher's like throwing to him as well, he is a good target. I think he could put up decent numbers at Portland this year as long as they don't promote him based on defense before he's gotten used to the league. It seems that once he adjusts to a place he starts to hit, probably concentrates on receiving when he's promoted to a new level.
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Post by bluechip on Feb 28, 2013 14:22:06 GMT -5
Jackie Bradley just continues to get hits. two for three so far today.
Edit: with a steal.
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Post by sibbysisti on Feb 28, 2013 15:02:42 GMT -5
I've made a conscious decision to allow myself to get far too excited about Christian Vazquez's eighth inning. That really was awesome. Are we looking toward a Swihart/Vasquez L/R combination behind the plate for 2016?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 15:13:20 GMT -5
I've made a conscious decision to allow myself to get far too excited about Christian Vazquez's eighth inning. That really was awesome. And then you saw Strop undress him in the 9th.
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Post by James Dunne on Feb 28, 2013 15:33:21 GMT -5
And then you saw Strop undress him in the 9th. Fair, though Strop has been doing that to major leaguers since he switched over to the two-seamer. I'd also point out how bad Strop made the Yankees look last year in the playoffs, except for the fact that basically every pitcher made the Yankees looks bad in the playoffs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 15:42:48 GMT -5
Did you hear about a POP time on those throws? Must have been below 1.9. Strop is pretty good, but Vazquez didn't look good during the AB either. I hope he can hit and I'd love to see a scouting rationale for the bat developing.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Feb 28, 2013 19:53:33 GMT -5
Took in today's game in Bradenton. A cool day for SW Florida. Lots of breeze, little sun, and felt like 60 instead of supposedly 70 degrees. WILD game. Bucs were terrible.
* Lackey was actually OK. Yes the homer was hit well, but he threw well, hits corners mostly with his FB, and threw 2 or 3 nice breaking balls.
* Bradley should have had 4 hits! He was totally robbed in the 1st inning by D'Arnaud who went up the middle from second base, dove, and got Jackie by a step. Damn Bradley looks like the real thing. Loved watching him during batting practice flag down fly-balls.
* Iglesias had just one hit, but he also stroked a hard line drive into fairly deep right in his 1st at-bat that was chased down. He seems to be making much harder contact
* I was ecstatic when we signed David Ross, and his darts down to second base are a sight for sore eyes. He is going to make a HUGE difference this year.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Mar 3, 2013 8:23:09 GMT -5
Another nice outing from Webster yesterday: 3 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Mar 3, 2013 9:58:39 GMT -5
Gammo had a tweet this am that said; "Scout in Fla.-"I've seen three young catchers this spring who'll have long careers--D'Arnaud(Mets), Vazquez(Bos.), Bethancourt(Atl)"
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Post by Oregon Norm on Mar 3, 2013 13:21:13 GMT -5
That's good company.
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Post by bsout2 on Mar 3, 2013 14:25:48 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone has gotten a chance to see yet but Furcal may be having big problems again with his arm. I wonder at what point Iglesias becomes expendable? If people inside the organization truly believe that Bogaerts can remain at SS then the Red Sox may have an opportunity to move Iglesias for depth at another position.
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Post by marrcus on Mar 3, 2013 19:55:05 GMT -5
Remy's comments on Ortiz: he was surprised and didn't know what was going on? He said they would give him three days off after each unsuccessful day in the field. It would appear he isn't going to be ready for RSOD. If that's the case I think you have to ask why Papi's not fit with seven months off? Is it going to be chronic?
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 3, 2013 20:57:11 GMT -5
The better questions are why the hell did he get a 2 year deal and why did he get that much money per year and how did they not know he has a partial tear prior to giving him that money? Fortunately it won't really hurt them but its still somewhat dumb.
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Post by Kevin Pereira on Mar 3, 2013 21:48:17 GMT -5
If Ortiz does get hurt, I think that opens the door for Bradley; play Gomes as DH, move Victorino to LF, slot Bradley in at RF.
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Post by jmei on Mar 3, 2013 22:42:01 GMT -5
My understanding is that the Achilles tendon tear is all healed, but that there is still scar tissue and lingering calcium deposits near where the tear originally occurred. Thus, while Ortiz still gets sore after physical activity (due to inflammation, etc.), his Achilles is not still partially torn, nor is there a significant risk of re-injury. I think Ortiz may have to miss a few games here and there due to lingering tendinitis-type soreness, but he isn't at risk for the type of traumatic re-injury that would put him on the shelf for a long period of time and any lingering symptoms should improve over time.
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Post by charliezink16 on Mar 3, 2013 23:46:35 GMT -5
If Ortiz does get hurt, I think that opens the door for Bradley; play Gomes as DH, move Victorino to LF, slot Bradley in at RF. If Ortiz really were hurt, and Boston decided to go down the Bradley path, would that really be the outfield alignment? Wouldn't it make more sense to play Bradley in center and Ellsbury in left? I mean Ellsbury has seen a combined 546.2 innings in LF from '07, '08, and '10 so inexperience isn't a problem. Ellsbury has blazing speed and can make great plays in center. However, his reads and jumps on balls are below average, and his arm is obviously extremely weak. IMO if Bradley is with Boston, he needs to play CF, Ellbury can't block him, he carries too much value with his defense in center.
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Post by mainesox on Mar 4, 2013 1:21:29 GMT -5
If Ortiz does get hurt, I think that opens the door for Bradley; play Gomes as DH, move Victorino to LF, slot Bradley in at RF. If Ortiz really were hurt, and Boston decided to go down the Bradley path, would that really be the outfield alignment? Wouldn't it make more sense to play Bradley in center and Ellsbury in left? I mean Ellsbury has seen a combined 546.2 innings in LF from '07, '08, and '10 so inexperience isn't a problem. Ellsbury has blazing speed and can make great plays in center. However, his reads and jumps on balls are below average, and his arm is obviously extremely weak. IMO if Bradley is with Boston, he needs to play CF, Ellbury can't block him, he carries too much value with his defense in center. The most logical thing to do would be to play Ellsbury in left in that situation because, while all three are quality defenders, Ellsbury's arm is by far the weakest of the three, but I don't know if Farrell has the stones to move the veteran off position for the rookie (that's a legitimate "I don't know" not an accusing one saying I don't think he does). I'm not sure how likely that scenario is to begin with though.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 4, 2013 8:03:23 GMT -5
In a vacuum it may make sense to play Jacoby in left, but would it be wise to start off JBjrs career or the 2013 season with all that hoopla surrounding such a thing? Even if Jaocoby says he's fine with it, which he won't be, there is no way the media doesn't make it a huge story. This team doesn't need to start 2013 like that; it's trying to change the aura surrounding the team. Farrell should focus on the defensive upgrade they gain by replacing Gomes and not make any other changes. Nothing to do with having stones; it's the smart way to go.
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