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Post by redsox04071318champs on Mar 15, 2019 21:05:29 GMT -5
I think he's trying to say that the Sox would wind up with an end game of high leverage from Barnes, Brasier, and Feltman by the end of the season, but rely on Barnes, Brasier, and Hembree for high leverage situations in the 1st half or at least through April. The point being that we won't see Feltman, until May 1st at the earliest, but more likely the 2nd half, perhaps bringing him up in May, easing him into the bullpen and hoping he becomes a high leverage guy by the 2nd half of the season at some point. I understand the extra year of control piece, but if you're not going to spend on the bullpen in the short term, you can't leave it this short of high-leverage arms by worrying that far out into the future. Plus, different calculus for relievers. Their career arcs are different than a Devers or Beni, especially with the high effort delivery Feltman has. One person's opinion - if Feltman is the best high leverage arm to add to the Opening Day roster out of all the potential options, you bite the bullet and start the year with him. Waiting one month to bring up Feltman isn't going to kill the season and that's assuming he's better right now than what they have, and I wouldn't assume that right now at all. The kid hasn't pitched about A ball. Don't think it makes sense to start his season in Boston.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Mar 15, 2019 23:10:28 GMT -5
I like it... Be where your feet are. He's been reading Baba Ram Das. Who would have thunk it.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Mar 15, 2019 23:27:23 GMT -5
I understand the extra year of control piece, but if you're not going to spend on the bullpen in the short term, you can't leave it this short of high-leverage arms by worrying that far out into the future. Plus, different calculus for relievers. Their career arcs are different than a Devers or Beni, especially with the high effort delivery Feltman has. One person's opinion - if Feltman is the best high leverage arm to add to the Opening Day roster out of all the potential options, you bite the bullet and start the year with him. Waiting one month to bring up Feltman isn't going to kill the season and that's assuming he's better right now than what they have, and I wouldn't assume that right now at all. The kid hasn't pitched about A ball. Don't think it makes sense to start his season in Boston. Problem I see is what they have brought in on MiLB deals isn't much to look at they keep running out there on a regular basis this spring and isn't going to be of any use this season more than likely for the parent club, other than possibly Meija and Tapia. I don't understand why Houck hasn't been used in any of the ST games. He may still be on track for a starting gig, but the team maybe should see what he can do in 1-2IP runs this spring in front of Cora in competitive games, like Feltman just did and Hernandez, with a bit more pro experience has been. All hands on deck is what I see to help the BP for 2019 and Houck, IMO would be a potential weapon.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Mar 16, 2019 0:24:30 GMT -5
I know spring training stats don't mean much of anything, but for somebody like Brian Johnson and Hector Velazquez, it's a bit worrisome that they're getting hit so hard.
The Red Sox are going to be relying heavily on these two pitchers to piggyback their starters who will be taking things slowly. These two pitchers were excellent, particularly early in the season, and that was a big reason they got off to a big start while slowly building up their key pitchers.
If Johnson and Velazquez struggle in April, it could make the bullpen workload rather healthy and/or put pressure on the starters to pitch longer in games than they should - although I don't think Cora would cave into that kind of pressure.
I hope Velazquez and Johnson can be as useful as they were last season. That would be a big boost, but if they're not, there could be some struggles early on until the starters gain their footing and/or the bullpen sorts itself out.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 16, 2019 6:18:14 GMT -5
You gotta believe that Kimbrel is not coming back with what we have to offer. Is there a team more desperate for relief pitching than us? We have no lefties ready. Go Gio!! Oops, I see the Yankees are interested in signing him.....nevermind. Gio Gonzalez? Maybe we should be also looking at Tim Lincecum and trading for James Shields. He had a 4.73 SIERA last season and doesn't throw 90. I'd rather go with Brian Johnson.
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Post by Smittyw on Mar 16, 2019 7:03:16 GMT -5
If we couldn't/wouldn't sign Tony Sipp for $1.5 million plus an option, I think it's pretty safe to rule out any further major league signings, yes?
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Post by dmaineah on Mar 16, 2019 8:40:12 GMT -5
If we couldn't/wouldn't sign Tony Sipp for $1.5 million plus an option, I think it's pretty safe to rule out any further major league signings, yes?I posted that on December 6th & no one believed it & most still don't. Other then the expected trade of a Catcher, the roster has been set since the Eovaldi signing.
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Post by Guidas on Mar 16, 2019 10:34:53 GMT -5
I like it... Be where your feet are. He's been reading Baba Ram Das. Who would have thunk it. Or watching The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai in the 8th Dimension.
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Post by elbochie on Mar 16, 2019 11:50:27 GMT -5
You gotta believe that Kimbrel is not coming back with what we have to offer. Is there a team more desperate for relief pitching than us? We have no lefties ready. Go Gio!! Oops, I see the Yankees are interested in signing him.....nevermind. Gio Gonzalez? Maybe we should be also looking at Tim Lincecum and trading for James Shields. He had a 4.73 SIERA last season and doesn't throw 90. I'd rather go with Brian Johnson. 2.96 ERA in 201 innings with Nationals in '17....and dominated in Milwaukee after being traded with a 2.13 ERA in '18.....whats' wrong with signing him on the cheap.....might become an effective reliever?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 16, 2019 11:58:23 GMT -5
We're in deep trouble. Chris Sale doesn't look good warming up before a spring training game.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 16, 2019 15:10:22 GMT -5
Gio Gonzalez? Maybe we should be also looking at Tim Lincecum and trading for James Shields. He had a 4.73 SIERA last season and doesn't throw 90. I'd rather go with Brian Johnson. 2.96 ERA in 201 innings with Nationals in '17....and dominated in Milwaukee after being traded with a 2.13 ERA in '18.....whats' wrong with signing him on the cheap.....might become an effective reliever? Sure, minor league deal or nothing. But I wouldn't expect anything. I wouldn't kick anyone off the roster for him.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 16, 2019 15:11:49 GMT -5
We're in deep trouble. Chris Sale doesn't look good warming up before a spring training game. His slider looked great. Just watched his 7 K's on mlb video. Only 50 pitches through 4.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 17, 2019 9:04:49 GMT -5
We're in deep trouble. Chris Sale doesn't look good warming up before a spring training game. His slider looked great. Just watched his 7 K's on mlb video. Only 50 pitches through 4. Yes but the pregame fist bump lacked crispness.
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Post by Addam603 on Mar 17, 2019 11:07:00 GMT -5
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Post by Oregon Norm on Mar 17, 2019 11:34:31 GMT -5
I like it... Be where your feet are. He's been reading Baba Ram Das. Who would have thunk it. Or watching The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai in the 8th Dimension. Buckaroo was, in fact, one of the earliest disciples of Baba!
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Mar 17, 2019 13:22:31 GMT -5
So...who won?
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 17, 2019 13:45:12 GMT -5
So...who won? Chris Sale in Game 7 of the World Series.
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Post by Smittyw on Mar 17, 2019 13:47:29 GMT -5
So...who won? EovaldiMookie Betts
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Post by telson13 on Mar 17, 2019 17:13:15 GMT -5
I like it... Be where your feet are. He's been reading Baba Ram Das. Who would have thunk it. Or watching The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai in the 8th Dimension. Wow, is that ever a blast from the past.
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Post by sparkygian on Mar 18, 2019 0:41:08 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see how Buttrey and Jerez do this season
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Post by kenster on Mar 18, 2019 20:35:56 GMT -5
This relief corps looks dominant. Stellar job by Matt Barnes thus far. And like clockwork, here comes the organization’s Matt Barnes is tipping pitches nonsense as predicted.
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Post by jimoh on Mar 19, 2019 5:22:01 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see how Buttrey and Jerez do this season Painful is more like it. Traded them for 143 plate appearances of 36 year-old Ian Kinsler and his .608 OPS. I appologize in advance for how often I'm going to write "that Buttrey kid the Angels have looks pretty good." in the 2019 trade deadline thread. I will never understand this. Once you have said "I regret the price we have paid for X" and "I will miss Y," I don't understand the desire to say it again and again and again. When this site becomes a place to vent, and vent in a repetitive, redundant way, rather than a place to discuss, that for me is painful.
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Post by iakovos11 on Mar 19, 2019 8:14:04 GMT -5
Painful is more like it. Traded them for 143 plate appearances of 36 year-old Ian Kinsler and his .608 OPS. I appologize in advance for how often I'm going to write "that Buttrey kid the Angels have looks pretty good." in the 2019 trade deadline thread. I will never understand this. Once you have said "I regret the price we have paid for X" and "I will miss Y," I don't understand the desire to say it again and again and again. When this site becomes a place to vent, and vent in a repetitive, redundant way, rather than a place to discuss, that for me is painful. I have no issues with that trade. Never did. Never will. I think there's a reason they were more than willing to trade Buttrey.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Mar 19, 2019 9:11:52 GMT -5
I will never understand this. Once you have said "I regret the price we have paid for X" and "I will miss Y," I don't understand the desire to say it again and again and again. When this site becomes a place to vent, and vent in a repetitive, redundant way, rather than a place to discuss, that for me is painful. I have no issues with that trade. Never did. Never will. I think there's a reason they were more than willing to trade Buttrey. Uhhh... because they drastically underestimated him? Not saying I didn't as well...
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Mar 19, 2019 12:01:01 GMT -5
Houck, IMO would be a potential weapon. I don't know about "weapon," but for someone nobody talks about, I could see him getting the mid-season move to the bullpen and late-season call up everyone seems to assume Darwinzon is going to get. I'm not predicting it, mind you, but I could see that occurring.
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