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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 6, 2019 8:45:35 GMT -5
I love the smile on Colin Moran after. I would have trashed talked my brother in the middle of the at bat. Maybe even called my own shot like Babe Ruth. On the other side of it; as a little brother myself, there probably wouldn't have been a better feeling than striking out my older brother. I would have walked around like Marcus Stroman after that. Wow, so many brother combos - none have faced each other since 1900? I know there was no interleague play, but I would have thought that at some point Ken Brett had pitched to his younger brother George. Guess not. Edit - it was Brian's debut - that's what was meant. OK. Got it now. No wonder it's the first time. What's the odds of that? Imagine if it had also been Colin's debut as well!
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 6, 2019 17:29:08 GMT -5
At least Aaron Sanchez turning into yet another great pitcher as soon as he goes to Houston didn't turn out to be true. He's now out for the season getting shoulder surgery and was just as awful in his last 2 starts as he was all year.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 6, 2019 19:39:37 GMT -5
At least Aaron Sanchez turning into yet another great pitcher as soon as he goes to Houston didn't turn out to be true. He's now out for the season getting shoulder surgery and was just as awful in his last 2 starts as he was all year. Well he was hurt. So that explains his last 2 starts. They'll just have to turn him into a ACE or bullpen stud next year.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 6, 2019 19:46:47 GMT -5
At least Aaron Sanchez turning into yet another great pitcher as soon as he goes to Houston didn't turn out to be true. He's now out for the season getting shoulder surgery and was just as awful in his last 2 starts as he was all year. Well he was hurt. So that explains his last 2 starts. They'll just have to turn him into a ACE or bullpen stud next year. He's been garbage for years. Good luck to them.
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Post by manfred on Sept 9, 2019 9:19:53 GMT -5
Mariners lose 21-1. They are 1-hit, strike out 17 times. Seriously, this has to be one of the most embarrassing losses in baseball history, no?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 9, 2019 12:56:44 GMT -5
Everyone praises Houston and they deserve a bunch of it. Yet they let Morton leave when he wanted to come back, then needed to trade three of their top five prospects to get Grienke and take on two more years at about 30 million per. That's a huge mistake and crazy costly in terms of money and prospects. They certainly aren't perfect!
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 10, 2019 8:30:17 GMT -5
With all the craziness on Sunday night into Monday, I neglected to mention Danny Hultzen getting to the majors. Second pick in that stacked 2011 draft by the Mariners, totally dominant at UVA. Then he kept getting hurt and actually retired before starting a comeback last year. He hit Yelich, the first guy he faced (welcome to the bigs, right?), and allowed a single to Ben Gamel, but then K'd Thames, Perez, and Spangenberg. Big game as well, with the Cubs moving to two ahead of Milwaukee for the second wild card.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 11, 2019 1:33:49 GMT -5
This one is a feel good story. Iirc, he got an agent to represent him for the draft at the last minute because his old agent dumped him for other players.
Jeff Young @baseballjeff1
In his brief time in the majors, Dubon has not looked out-of-place at all in the batter’s box. Good bat-to-ball skills. He’s playing into a starter’s role next season #sfgiants
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 11, 2019 1:43:49 GMT -5
This sucks...
Milwaukee Brewers @brewers
Christian Yelich left tonight’s game with a fractured right knee cap. He will miss the remainder of the season.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 11, 2019 8:28:45 GMT -5
This sucks... Milwaukee Brewers @brewers Christian Yelich left tonight’s game with a fractured right knee cap. He will miss the remainder of the season. That's too bad. I would think that makes the path to the NL MVP award easier for Bellinger?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 12, 2019 16:20:28 GMT -5
So there really is a huge question of how durable can a player be, when trying to be a full-time pitcher and hitter. Ohtani is trying to do both, but has a hard time staying healthy to do either.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Sept 12, 2019 17:02:17 GMT -5
So there really is a huge question of how durable can a player be, when trying to be a full-time pitcher and hitter. Ohtani is trying to do both, but has a hard time staying healthy to do either. I doubt his durability is impacted by starting and DH'ing inbetween. Like, I think he'd still get the knee injury if he only hit and still get the TJ if he only pitched. If you want to say that maybe he doesn't get both if he does only one, maybe that's fair.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 12, 2019 17:33:42 GMT -5
So there really is a huge question of how durable can a player be, when trying to be a full-time pitcher and hitter. Ohtani is trying to do both, but has a hard time staying healthy to do either. He hasn't pitched all year so he hasn't been trying to do both other than recently starting to throw.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 12, 2019 18:34:58 GMT -5
So there really is a huge question of how durable can a player be, when trying to be a full-time pitcher and hitter. Ohtani is trying to do both, but has a hard time staying healthy to do either. He hasn't pitched all year so he hasn't been trying to do both other than recently starting to throw. He tried to do both last year and still got hurt. Pushing this guy who's already injury prone could prove to be a big mistake and they might get even less out of him by doing so.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 13, 2019 11:37:40 GMT -5
He hasn't pitched all year so he hasn't been trying to do both other than recently starting to throw. He tried to do both last year and still got hurt. Pushing this guy who's already injury prone could prove to be a big mistake and they might get even less out of him by doing so. So if he only tried to pitch last year instead of also hit, he may not have needed TJS? That makes about as much sense as not trying to pitch made him hurt his knee this year.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 13, 2019 11:57:36 GMT -5
He tried to do both last year and still got hurt. Pushing this guy who's already injury prone could prove to be a big mistake and they might get even less out of him by doing so. So if he only tried to pitch last year instead of also hit, he may not have needed TJS? That makes about as much sense as not trying to pitch made him hurt his knee this year. I don't think you get that it's a major concern of the Angels and Ohtani to pitch every 5 days and then hit in 3 days in between. Every other starter in MLB has to only pitch and maybe hit once every 5 days. Yet, Ohtani is doing a lot more than that and has had an elbow and knee operation now. I don't know what you're even arguing for. It's a good idea for Ohtani to keep doing both when now we know he's a an injury prone player?
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 13, 2019 12:06:00 GMT -5
I really am not sure how DH'ing increases the odds of needing TJS or not pitching increases the odds of hurting his knee, but ok, have at it. I'll let you believe whatever ridiculousness you want without further argument.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 13, 2019 12:09:13 GMT -5
I really am not sure how DH'ing increases the odds of needing TJS or not pitching increases the odds of hurting his knee, but ok, have at it. I'll let you believe whatever ridiculousness you want without further argument. Playing more = Increases your chances of getting hurt. It just isn't DHing and hitting. Baserunning too. Dhing. Pitching. I mean, I though this is a common sense thing, but apparently not.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 13, 2019 12:11:17 GMT -5
Yes, I just noticed the long list of DH's that need TJS.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 13, 2019 12:14:03 GMT -5
Yes, I just noticed the long list of DH's that need TJS. So he should just keep hitting is your opinion?! Great!!
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 13, 2019 12:17:29 GMT -5
Yes, I just noticed the long list of DH's that need TJS. So he should just keep hitting is your opinion?! Great!! Pitching causes elbow tears, not hitting. Do you think NL pitchers hurt their elbows more often while hitting? Or is it just a function of pitching, and only pitching?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 13, 2019 12:20:35 GMT -5
So he should just keep hitting is your opinion?! Great!! Pitching causes elbow tears, not hitting. Do you think NL pitchers hurt their elbows more often while hitting? Or is it just a function of pitching, and only pitching? I think Ohtani, if he keeps doing both will keep getting hurt. Players who have a tendency to get hurt, usually have a better chance of getting hurt again. They're asking more out of him, when his body has shown that he might need a lesser workload. If he ONLY had TJS, then maybe not a big deal. Yet, now the knee. Next year it will be the knee or something else.
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 13, 2019 12:24:21 GMT -5
Ohtani pitched and hit and ate ice cream and he got hurt. Ergo, he got hurt from pitching and hitting and eating ice cream, and he really can only do one of those things. Makes sense to me.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 13, 2019 12:27:36 GMT -5
Ohtani pitched and hit and ate ice cream and he got hurt. Ergo, he got hurt from pitching and hitting and eating ice cream, and he really can only do one of those things. Makes sense to me. Just play Ohtani everyday then. Should be a fine idea. That'll be great for his body.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Sept 13, 2019 12:31:39 GMT -5
What's interesting about Ohtani right now is that he hasn't thrown anything close to a starter's workload for three years now. Even if they want to keep doing the two-way thing, they can't be banking him for much more than 100 innings next year, and maybe it's a lot less than that. So how do you manage him? Reliever? Super-opener? And does this whole thing work better if you just abandon the idea of using him as a traditional starter? Super interesting situation, and they may be developing the blueprint for future two-way guys.
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