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Post by grandsalami on Apr 5, 2019 20:41:40 GMT -5
So how loud are the boos going to be at the home opener? Dude, they're not going to get booed as they're introduced at home. They're getting f'ng world series rings. They might get booed if they get their asses kicked during the game after the introductions and ceremonies (where they'll get huge deserved cheers because winning a World Series carries more weight than starting the season 3-8 or whatever the hell it is). I mean, would you rather they didn't win the Series and they came home with a 6-5 record or something? You haven’t met many baseball fans. It’s “what a Have you done for me Lately”. They play like this the rest of the road trip, they are getting booed.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 5, 2019 20:42:53 GMT -5
I mean for Pete’s sake. We literally were a few good plays away from being 0-8 right now.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 5, 2019 20:43:24 GMT -5
So the Red Sox are getting a lot of crap out of the way.
In 2018 the Sox never lost 4 games in a row.
In 2019 it took them until the 6th game of the season to accomplish this.
The 2018 Red Sox never gave up a grand slammer. They hit 10 of them, but they held opponents to something like 0-30.
It took all of 9 games for the Sox to give up a grand slam.
They are brutal this year. Eventually it'll turn around at some point, but it's gonna take awhile and they might not turn around as far as we'd like.
So far this team is kind of like the 1976 team that was the defending AL Champs, young, bright future, and armed with a HOF worthy ace in Fergy Jenkins - and they lost 10 in a row to drop to 6-15. Took them all year just to get over .500.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 5, 2019 20:45:01 GMT -5
Dude, they're not going to get booed as they're introduced at home. They're getting f'ng world series rings. They might get booed if they get their asses kicked during the game after the introductions and ceremonies (where they'll get huge deserved cheers because winning a World Series carries more weight than starting the season 3-8 or whatever the hell it is). I mean, would you rather they didn't win the Series and they came home with a 6-5 record or something? You haven’t met many baseball fans. It’s “what a Have you done for me Lately”. They play like this the rest of the road trip, they are getting booed. I've met plenty, thank you very much. And they're not stupid enough to boo at a freaking ring ceremony. If the Sox suck at the game afterwards, sure boos will happen, but not during the ring ceremony. That's not going to happen. And if they do they should be escorted out of the park for being too damn stupid.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Apr 5, 2019 20:46:31 GMT -5
I mean for Pete’s sake. We literally were a few good plays away from being 0-8 right now. And a couple of clutch hits from being 5-3 Twice in Seattle and that 1-0 game in Oakland we could have easily pulled out the wins in all 3 games
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Post by kjkramer on Apr 5, 2019 20:53:02 GMT -5
The problem is not just the losing They have lost and even gone onosing streaks and the games were still entertaining and even "enjoyable" These games are neither They are very hard to watch Team is boring and sloppy and gutless and just hard to watch or find much to build on...
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Post by soxfaninnj on Apr 5, 2019 20:57:12 GMT -5
This game is pissing me off more than most people on this board but let’s be realistic for a minute it’s 9 games. Sox just had the best season in franchise history which included knocking the mfy of the playoffs in that toilet bowl so let’s just take a deep breath and relax.
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Post by station13 on Apr 5, 2019 20:57:33 GMT -5
Are you gonna boo them at Fenway? Tweet us.
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Post by kjkramer on Apr 5, 2019 21:01:29 GMT -5
Mookie goes yard and I cant even smile
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Post by station13 on Apr 5, 2019 21:02:46 GMT -5
This offense will now click with Benni and Betts getting into a groove.
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Post by kjkramer on Apr 5, 2019 21:04:21 GMT -5
Obviously the Dbacks are just going to be throwing strikes now. Maybe the Sox can take advantage of these "gimmies" and get in a groove off of it
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Post by kjkramer on Apr 5, 2019 21:09:10 GMT -5
Swihart is an easy vuy to like and root for
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Post by wcp3 on Apr 5, 2019 21:14:13 GMT -5
You cannot say enough bad things about Cora’s handling of spring training. Talk about an example of being too smart for your own good.
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Post by station13 on Apr 5, 2019 21:15:35 GMT -5
This is MUST SEE TV
Nunez Pitching
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Post by soxfaninnj on Apr 5, 2019 21:16:49 GMT -5
This is MUST SEE TV Nunez Pitching 0.00 era Nunez!!!
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Post by soxfaninnj on Apr 5, 2019 21:18:58 GMT -5
This is MUST SEE TV Nunez Pitching 0.00 era Nunez!!! Nevermind he joined the give up home run party
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Post by kjkramer on Apr 5, 2019 21:20:47 GMT -5
Nunez actually pitched as well, or better, than our 5 starters so far 🤷♀️
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Post by kjkramer on Apr 5, 2019 21:30:23 GMT -5
This might be EXACTLY what we needed to get rolling offensively. It doesnt matter that the pitchers were purposely grooving balls. That is how it works sometimes.
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Post by station13 on Apr 5, 2019 21:34:53 GMT -5
C'mon Xander, quit slapping the ball.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 5, 2019 21:36:57 GMT -5
Well, except for the middle innings, the Red Sox pitching was pretty solid tonight.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 5, 2019 21:38:27 GMT -5
The offense is too good to struggle all season. The state of the starting pitching is really what is most troubling....hopefully once they get their arms stretched out and in actual regular season shape, it will remedy itself - but how big a hole are we digging?
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Post by libertine on Apr 5, 2019 21:53:04 GMT -5
You cannot say enough bad things about Cora’s handling of spring training. Talk about an example of being too smart for your own good. This team was totally unprepared to start the season.
On top of which they look like a team that is desperate to get home to see their wives/girlfriends and kids. They haven't been home since the beginning of February. An extended trip to the other coast to start the season is just plain brutal.
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Post by taftreign on Apr 5, 2019 21:55:14 GMT -5
This team needs a Pedroia to get in their faces. Also on a good note Fenway seems to have a way of curing the ills of this team.
Finally they all count but at least none of these have been inter divisional. If they’re losing at home to Toronto and Baltimore next week then i will start to get worried.
While the save the arms for October strategy clearly sounded good in theory it seems to have thrown all the pitchers off their game. Don’t they know athletes are creatures of habit and when you mess with their norm it causes problems.
I’d have rather taken a Kikuchi approach. Skip a turn in the rotation every 5 or 6 starts and use an opener and a long man. Would have saved 5 or so starts for each pitcher over the course of the season.
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Post by telson13 on Apr 5, 2019 21:57:25 GMT -5
So the Red Sox are getting a lot of crap out of the way. In 2018 the Sox never lost 4 games in a row. In 2019 it took them until the 6th game of the season to accomplish this. The 2018 Red Sox never gave up a grand slammer. They hit 10 of them, but they held opponents to something like 0-30. It took all of 9 games for the Sox to give up a grand slam. They are brutal this year. Eventually it'll turn around at some point, but it's gonna take awhile and they might not turn around as far as we'd like. So far this team is kind of like the 1976 team that was the defending AL Champs, young, bright future, and armed with a HOF worthy ace in Fergy Jenkins - and they lost 10 in a row to drop to 6-15. Took them all year just to get over .500. I’m still very confident in this team. For them to struggle to finish with 85 or so wins, a TON would have to go wrong. Possible, but still, I think, unlikely. The SPing does look atrocious right now, but it’s hard to see them being this consistently bad for a significant stretch. One bright spot for me is that Swihart’s really seeing and hitting the ball well. I think it buys him more playing time, and maybe (just maybe) he gets his career back on track. BUT, while they’re likely to regress to their projections, that regression won’t ablate the bad start, and that’s a huge problem in this division. They need to turn it around very quickly and in a big way.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 5, 2019 22:37:33 GMT -5
So the Red Sox are getting a lot of crap out of the way. In 2018 the Sox never lost 4 games in a row. In 2019 it took them until the 6th game of the season to accomplish this. The 2018 Red Sox never gave up a grand slammer. They hit 10 of them, but they held opponents to something like 0-30. It took all of 9 games for the Sox to give up a grand slam. They are brutal this year. Eventually it'll turn around at some point, but it's gonna take awhile and they might not turn around as far as we'd like. So far this team is kind of like the 1976 team that was the defending AL Champs, young, bright future, and armed with a HOF worthy ace in Fergy Jenkins - and they lost 10 in a row to drop to 6-15. Took them all year just to get over .500. I’m still very confident in this team. For them to struggle to finish with 85 or so wins, a TON would have to go wrong. Possible, but still, I think, unlikely. The SPing does look atrocious right now, but it’s hard to see them being this consistently bad for a significant stretch. One bright spot for me is that Swihart’s really seeing and hitting the ball well. I think it buys him more playing time, and maybe (just maybe) he gets his career back on track. BUT, while they’re likely to regress to their projections, that regression won’t ablate the bad start, and that’s a huge problem in this division. They need to turn it around very quickly and in a big way. I think they'll do better than 85-77, which is what the 1996 team finished with after having finished 1st the year before playing near .600 ball and after getting off to a 3-15 start which helped get Kevin Kennedy fired after the season. The 1976 team finished 83-79 a year after almost winning the World Series and they got off to a 6-15 start which is what they were after a 10 game losing streak - and their manager Darrell Johnson was fired as well, except in midseason. I think the 2019 Sox team will fare better - too much talent (but then again that 1976 team was loaded and added Jenkins to the top of the rotation). I suspect the Sox will wind up in the 92 win area which means they'll be fighting for a playoff spot. I would have thought this team was a 95-100 win team even with the bullpen, but now I'm not so sure. It's troubling to see Sale struggle with his velocity. Porcello and E-Rod are hot messes right now and it's possible that Eovaldi and E-Rod don't turn that big corner we think they can. The pen could have issues as the season progresses. They're certainly being worked hard. And if there's a key injury or two to the starting lineup, that could cause issues. A lot would have to go wrong for the Sox to miss the playoffs and win below 90 games, but who's knows? All I know is that this team doesn't look prepared for the season. They're not getting unlucky losses. They're getting their butts kicked. I don't know how much of it is the law of averages trying to get its revenge for all of last year's good fortune or a lack of preparation. In retrospect perhaps it would have been better had the starting pitcher's rest had been spaced out more. Like rest for Sale in April, rest for Price in May, rest for Porcello in June, rest for Eovaldi in August and rest for E-Rod in September or some variation of that staggered pattern. Or maybe each pitcher skips a start after X amount of starts. One concern I had was that Johnson and Velazquez would be lousy and with that being the case it's harder to plug Johnson or Velazquez in for a lot of spot starts. And of course there have been some awful defensive blunders and bad baserunning plays. They don't look like they're playing to win a Championship like they did all of last year - they look like they're expecting to cruise and then turn it on at will down the road.
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