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Post by station13 on May 29, 2019 20:10:09 GMT -5
Holt goes down swinging.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 29, 2019 20:12:55 GMT -5
Keep hitting.
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Post by Guidas on May 29, 2019 20:13:00 GMT -5
Cora said he’s not into chasing wins. He better be from here on out or he and the rest of this team will be on vacation in Oct. it's Cora's fault that the pitchers DD has given him to work with include guys with no business in the majors like Weber, Brewer, Lakins? He can't pitch Barnes and Walden every night. I agree, but barring winning 12 or more head to head against NYY, playing like Oct is a given going forward will mean the only given is an off season that starts immediately after the regular season ends. Product of the awful April and not dominating the sub-.500 teams so far.
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Post by chrisfromnc on May 29, 2019 20:14:51 GMT -5
Ok, it’s a brutal game, but I’m still celebrating the end of JBJ’s bad start. He’ll probably hit .420 in June.
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Post by Guidas on May 29, 2019 20:15:58 GMT -5
it's Cora's fault that the pitchers DD has given him to work with include guys with no business in the majors like Weber, Brewer, Lakins? He can't pitch Barnes and Walden every night. I agree, but barring winning 12 or more head to head against NYY, playing like Oct is a given going forward will mean the only given is an off season that starts immediately after the regular season ends. Product of the awful April and not dominating the sub-.500 teams so far. PS Cleveland was a sub .500 team...until last night.
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Post by radiohix on May 29, 2019 20:16:35 GMT -5
This a better lineup than last year! They're deep and can do damage in every spot. I love our chances this year.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on May 29, 2019 20:17:11 GMT -5
Never has an AL team scored in all 9 innings of a game. Edit: In 1923, Indians scored in all 8 innings of a 27-3 victory over BoSox. Cleve was the home team The streak continues. 118+ AL seasons without a 9-inn feat.
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Post by dirtdog on May 29, 2019 20:30:55 GMT -5
If this is prelude to getting hot in August and September, then peaking in October, fine. Otherwise this team is absolutely maddening. Also the bullpen from Craigs List has sprung more leaks than the radiator on 20 year old Ford Taurus.
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Post by db on May 29, 2019 20:33:20 GMT -5
Sox are winning this game
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 29, 2019 20:47:31 GMT -5
Lol here comes Nunez.
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Post by chrisfromnc on May 29, 2019 20:48:41 GMT -5
Sox are winning this game I like this new guy. Not sure I believe him though.
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Post by kevfc89 on May 29, 2019 20:52:10 GMT -5
id rather have Holt against a lefty than Nunez
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Post by tizzle on May 29, 2019 20:53:14 GMT -5
Nunez didn't come thru? Shocked shocked I tell ya!
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Post by Guidas on May 29, 2019 20:53:16 GMT -5
If this is prelude to getting hot in August and September, then peaking in October, fine. Otherwise this team is absolutely maddening. Also the bullpen from Craigs List has sprung more leaks than the radiator on 20 year old Ford Taurus. I firmly believe in pro sports, if you did not get better in the off-season you got worse. Sure, the front office may have thought the regression off 108 wins perhaps would be minus 8-10 wins, but I believe Fangraphs and other sites had it closer to 13-18 win regression. If Sox FO had identical regressions then they knew they would need help and seem to have miscalculated when it comes to the pen, especially regarding internal options. Regardless, I think many of us were surprised/amazed at some of the free agent moves they didn’t make as the prices dropped on relievers or even starters (Gio Gonzalez being the poster child for my amazement in the later category). I’m the first one to give the team a mulligan in the year after a WS win. Unless things change rapidly, it appears the FO was/is content to take that mulligan.
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 29, 2019 20:54:14 GMT -5
Someone needs to remove Nunez from Cora.
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Post by station13 on May 29, 2019 20:56:15 GMT -5
A 5 run save? BS
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Post by db on May 29, 2019 20:56:34 GMT -5
Sox are winning this game I like this new guy. Not sure I believe him though. Didn't factor in Eduardo to my calculations.
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Post by chrisfromnc on May 29, 2019 21:01:02 GMT -5
If this is prelude to getting hot in August and September, then peaking in October, fine. Otherwise this team is absolutely maddening. Also the bullpen from Craigs List has sprung more leaks than the radiator on 20 year old Ford Taurus. I firmly believe in pro sports, if you did not get better in the off-season you got worse. Sure, the front office may have thought the regression off 108 wins perhaps would be minus 8-10 wins, but I believe Fangraphs and other sites had it closer to 13-18 win regression. If Sox FO had identical regressions then they knew they would need help and seem to have miscalculated when it comes to the pen, especially regarding internal options. Regardless, I think many of us were surprised/amazed at some of the free agent moves they didn’t make as the prices dropped on relievers or even starters (Gio Gonzalez being the poster child for my amazement in the later category). I’m the first one to give the team a mulligan in the year after a WS win. Unless things change rapidly, it appears the FO was/is content to take that mulligan. It’s the stupid luxury tax. You can can make an easy case that Kimbrel and the Sox did not agree on his value during the off-season and that’s acceptable. But they would obviously have made an offer to him after the season started and the deficiencies of the pen were apparent if the tax penalty wasn’t prohibitive.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 29, 2019 21:08:57 GMT -5
This a better lineup than last year! They're deep and can do damage in every spot. I love our chances this year. The lineup is probably better. They don't string hits together as well as last year's team. This lineup has more power and is deeper but hasn't run like last year's team did. Last year's team somehow was very multi-functional with the offense. This year's team has starts and stops. Last year's offense operated like a carousel. The pitching certainly isn't better and that's a big issue. They'll probably make the playoffs, but if their pitching isn't better, they're not going to last long.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 29, 2019 21:10:44 GMT -5
I love Cora, but why the hell does he have to PH for Holt with Nunez? Nunez has given them nothing this year. I'd take my chances with Holt against the lefty.
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Post by Guidas on May 29, 2019 21:11:16 GMT -5
I firmly believe in pro sports, if you did not get better in the off-season you got worse. Sure, the front office may have thought the regression off 108 wins perhaps would be minus 8-10 wins, but I believe Fangraphs and other sites had it closer to 13-18 win regression. If Sox FO had identical regressions then they knew they would need help and seem to have miscalculated when it comes to the pen, especially regarding internal options. Regardless, I think many of us were surprised/amazed at some of the free agent moves they didn’t make as the prices dropped on relievers or even starters (Gio Gonzalez being the poster child for my amazement in the later category). I’m the first one to give the team a mulligan in the year after a WS win. Unless things change rapidly, it appears the FO was/is content to take that mulligan. It’s the stupid luxury tax. You can can make an easy case that Kimbrel and the Sox did not agree on his value during the off-season and that’s acceptable. But they would obviously have made an offer to him after the season started and the deficiencies of the pen were apparent if the tax penalty wasn’t prohibitive. I think an argument could be made that the luxury tax penalties are a cost of doing business while this team is at or near its peak. Obviously the Sox don’t feel that way, though they look to be over this year, too, so why not go for it? Not my money, sooooo... Was actually was hoping for Ottavino over Kimbrel. Genuinely surprised at the price he went for. Anyway, paid and done. And remember what Kimbrel looked like last year with a shortened spring training. Even if they signed a deal with him now for the rest of the season, he’d need 6-8 weeks to get ready.
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Post by dirtdog on May 29, 2019 21:18:58 GMT -5
I still have visions of Kimbrel (who I loved BTW} at the end of season and post season, the word SHAKY comes to mind. The guy I have heard them most associated with is Smith from SF.
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Post by Guidas on May 29, 2019 21:23:05 GMT -5
Meanwhile, with everyone focusing on launch angle and 3 true outcomes, I have to believe high OBP bat to ball singles/doubles hitters will (again) become the new market inefficiency soon. Moneyball part 2, for anyone who decides to leverage this with a few bashers (instead of trying to build a team of 20-25% K rate bashers).
Then again, I believe that the growth spurt that would take me to a legit 6 feet tall they all said I’d get in high school (in the early 1980s) is just around the corner, too.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on May 29, 2019 21:56:01 GMT -5
I still have visions of Kimbrel (who I loved BTW} at the end of season and post season, the word SHAKY comes to mind. The guy I have heard them most associated with is Smith from SF. The track record on guys who've sat out until the draft penalty expired is grim, too. We know that when things go bad for Kimbrel, they go REALLY bad. Greg Holland only missed spring training last year and it took him half a season and a new team to get right. I want no part of Kimbrel at this point. Smith would be great, but I fear the price tag.
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Post by radiohix on May 30, 2019 8:44:22 GMT -5
Jackie Bradley Jr'r May OPS is .825
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