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6/7-6/9 Red Sox vs. Rays Series Thread
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Post by kevfc89 on Jun 9, 2019 16:07:54 GMT -5
Yankees just hung on to win anyway so we lose ground on both teams, fun
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 9, 2019 16:14:46 GMT -5
Critical series for the Red Sox coming up. Actually, I thought this whole stretch of having Houston twice, Indians, Yankees and Rays was important and they managed to lose every single series, but now they have a 4 game set at home against the Rangers.
Current WC standings: Yankees - 6.5 up Rangers - 1.5 up (WC2) Indians - tied with you A's - 1.5 behind you Angels - 3 behind you White Sox - 3 behind you
Red Sox can't afford a series loss. A 4-game series sweep is an end to this season.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 9, 2019 16:15:38 GMT -5
Yankees just hung on to win anyway so we lose ground on both teams, fun Honestly, you're not catching NY so it's better that the Indians lost, if you're interested in the WC2 spot.
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Post by station13 on Jun 9, 2019 16:19:18 GMT -5
This team loses in the most painful slowest imaginable way.
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Post by kevfc89 on Jun 9, 2019 17:53:39 GMT -5
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 9, 2019 18:10:16 GMT -5
That's pretty revealing (Xander's statement). This poor playing streak is in their heads. The mental part of the grind is wearing them down. Mookie looks miserable too.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 9, 2019 18:11:59 GMT -5
That's pretty revealing (Xander's statement). This poor playing streak is in their heads. The mental part of the grind is wearing them down. Mookie looks miserable too. This team needs a good, benches clearing brawl. Something to really rally the troops.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 9, 2019 18:21:35 GMT -5
That's pretty revealing (Xander's statement). This poor playing streak is in their heads. The mental part of the grind is wearing them down. Mookie looks miserable too. This team needs a good, benches clearing brawl. Something to really rally the troops. I wouldn't recommend punching people to get the blood pumping, that'll only get players suspended. I don't know what they need to play better, but it's not that.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 9, 2019 18:33:23 GMT -5
This team needs a good, benches clearing brawl. Something to really rally the troops. I wouldn't recommend punching people to get the blood pumping, that'll only get players suspended. I don't know what they need to play better, but it's not that. Hmmm, Idk. Everyone credits it for the 2004 turnaround.
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Post by larrycook on Jun 9, 2019 18:35:01 GMT -5
Seems like we are pressing at the plate and not squaring up the pitches they would normally be turning into base hits.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 9, 2019 18:42:43 GMT -5
I wouldn't recommend punching people to get the blood pumping, that'll only get players suspended. I don't know what they need to play better, but it's not that. Hmmm, Idk. Everyone credits it for the 2004 turnaround. I think the win in the walk off that year after the fight is what turned their season around.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 9, 2019 19:31:37 GMT -5
The Good news...yes, there is always good news....we didn't get swept. I will be here to the last out of the 2019 season....whenever that occurs.
Behind em 100%. Let's Go Sox !!!
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 9, 2019 19:36:10 GMT -5
The Good news...yes, there is always good news....we didn't get swept. I will be here to the last out of the 2019 season....whenever that occurs. Behind em 100%. Let's Go Sox !!! I'm sick of talking about their tiring play myself. Would like to find something to be positive about, but the Sox are resembling are the Celtics this year. Underachieving team with plenty of talent. Hope they turn it around too, will be here with you until the end too buddy.
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Post by cdj on Jun 9, 2019 20:07:06 GMT -5
I went to the game unfortunately and that lineup was about as much of a punt as you’ll see
At least Hernandez looks good
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 9, 2019 20:12:32 GMT -5
Hmmm, Idk. Everyone credits it for the 2004 turnaround. I think the win in the walk off that year after the fight is what turned their season around. I think it was a combination of both, but you can't deny the impact Varitek had on smashing A-rod in the face with his glove. I think it really set a tone for this team that they weren't going to back down and it helped bond them and was a needed distraction. Of course, continuing to lose would have made it moot.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 9, 2019 20:38:38 GMT -5
Hmmm, Idk. Everyone credits it for the 2004 turnaround. I think the win in the walk off that year after the fight is what turned their season around. It did, although the numbers show that they were .500 for the next couple of weeks. I remember feeling like it was the first time that season that the team really showed fight. I remember just before A-Rod was hit by Arroyo, the cameras panned to Theo Epstein who was yawning. Appropriate given the way the season was going. That fight woke them up. They were determined to play the game - it was supposed to be rained out. They won the fight and perhaps it helped give them that extra to win the game. Who knows? All I know is things felt different, something you can't quantify. For the first time that season I started to believe there was something special there. Didn't think it would result in the greatest comeback of all time or the most important championship in Boston's history, though.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jun 10, 2019 11:05:11 GMT -5
Eduardo Rodriguez, 2019, through the fifth inning:
62.2IP, 4.60 ERA, 26.4 K%, 6.4 BB%, 3.43 FIP
Beyond the fifth inning:
9.1 IP, 7.71 ERA, 21.7 K%, 10.9 BB%, 6.04 FIP
You barely ever get more than five innings out of the guy anyway, and tons of bad stuff happens when you do, so why not just plan for him to go five? I don't know if it's a failure to realize the utility of this strategy or just a failure of pitching depth, but this endless waiting on an Eduardo Rodriguez breakout when you could just have him be effective now in a slightly different role is getting tiresome.
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Post by incandenza on Jun 10, 2019 11:16:12 GMT -5
Eduardo Rodriguez, 2019, through the fifth inning: 62.2IP, 4.60 ERA, 26.4 K%, 6.4 BB%, 3.43 FIP Beyond the fifth inning: 9.1 IP, 7.71 ERA, 21.7 K%, 10.9 BB%, 6.04 FIP You barely ever get more than five innings out of the guy anyway, and tons of bad stuff happens when you do, so why not just plan for him to go five? I don't know if it's a failure to realize the utility of this strategy or just a failure of pitching depth, but this endless waiting on an Eduardo Rodriguez breakout when you could just have him be effective now in a slightly different role is getting tiresome. Rather than assume every pitcher has to be either a starter or a reliever, a good Moneyball ahead-of-the-curve move would be to figure out the optimal number of innings for each pitcher and use them accordingly. Price and Sale are basically pitch-them-til-they're-tired guys. Rodriguez and Eovaldi are maybe 5-inning guys - good candidates for pairing with openers, maybe. And maybe Wright and Johnson are 2-3 inning guys? I don't know. Anyway, this is the way the game seems to be evolving - Tampa Bay seems to have already figured it out - and it would be nice if they could just follow the logic to its natural conclusion.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 10, 2019 11:21:38 GMT -5
You barely ever get more than five innings out of the guy anyway, and tons of bad stuff happens when you do, so why not just plan for him to go five? Well, the easy answer to this question is that you really don't have the depth in the bullpen to plan for this, especially with Eovaldi out. Your fifth starter not named Eovaldi has a ERA over 7 this year.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jun 10, 2019 14:55:04 GMT -5
You barely ever get more than five innings out of the guy anyway, and tons of bad stuff happens when you do, so why not just plan for him to go five? Well, the easy answer to this question is that you really don't have the depth in the bullpen to plan for this, especially with Eovaldi out. Your fifth starter not named Eovaldi has a ERA over 7 this year. You barely ever get more than five innings out of the guy anyway, and tons of bad stuff happens when you do, so why not just plan for him to go five? I don't know if it's a failure to realize the utility of this strategy or just a failure of pitching depth, but this endless waiting on an Eduardo Rodriguez breakout when you could just have him be effective now in a slightly different role is getting tiresome.
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