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8/18-8/19 Red Sox vs. Phillies Series Thread
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Post by ramireja on Aug 18, 2020 0:13:52 GMT -5
8/18 Red Sox (RHP Zack Godley, 0-2, 8.16, 14.1 IP, 14K:6BB) vs. Phillies (RHP Zach Eflin, 0-1, 3.60, 10.0 IP, 15K:2BB) 7:30 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 8/19 Red Sox (LHP Kyle Hart, 0-1, 22.50, 2.0 IP, 4K:3BB) vs. Phillies (RHP Jake Arrieta, 1-2, 4.02, 15.2 IP, 14K:2BB) 1:35 pm ET, NESN/WEEI MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2020: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 18, 2020 4:05:02 GMT -5
Fun Stats of the Day:
Sox pitchers by HardHit %. Chaim Bloom acquisitions in Bold.
Robert Stock 0.0% (waivers) Heath Hembree 17.4% Phillips Valdez 25.6% (waivers) Martin Perez 28.6% (FA $) Austin Brice 32.1% (trade for Angeudis Santos) Chris Mazza 33.3% (waivers) Dylan Covey 36.4% (trade for PTBNL or $) Matt Hall 37.5% (trade for Jhon Nunez) Josh Osich 37.9% (waivers) Zack Godley 39.2% (released) Brandon Workman 41.2% Nathan Eovaldi 41.7% Colten Brewer 43.6% Marcus Walden 44.4% Ryan Weber 44.8% Josh Taylor 50.0% Kyle Hart 50.0% Jeffrey Springs 52.6% (trade for Sam Travis) Ryan Brasier 54.6% Matt Barnes 55.0%
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 18, 2020 4:31:47 GMT -5
Interesting...
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Post by soxfanatic on Aug 18, 2020 8:29:37 GMT -5
Phillips Valdez has been a nice small sample positive so far.
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Post by station13 on Aug 18, 2020 8:41:18 GMT -5
Betts fWAR: 1.6
Red Sox team: -0.5
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Post by manfred on Aug 18, 2020 8:47:54 GMT -5
Fun Stats of the Day:
Sox pitchers by HardHit %. Chaim Bloom acquisitions in Bold.
Robert Stock 0.0% (waivers) Heath Hembree 17.4% Phillips Valdez 25.6% (waivers) Martin Perez 28.6% (FA $) Austin Brice 32.1% (trade for Angeudis Santos) Chris Mazza 33.3% (waivers) Dylan Covey 36.4% (trade for PTBNL or $) Matt Hall 37.5% (trade for Jhon Nunez) Josh Osich 37.9% (waivers) Zack Godley 39.2% (released) Brandon Workman 41.2% Nathan Eovaldi 41.7% Colten Brewer 43.6% Marcus Walden 44.4% Ryan Weber 44.8% Josh Taylor 50.0% Kyle Hart 50.0% Jeffrey Springs 52.6% (trade for Sam Travis) Ryan Brasier 54.6% Matt Barnes 55.0%
Looks interesting with the cluster, but I mean Covey, Hall, Mazza are all in the 4-6 inning range for the season, and Stock has thrown .2 more innings than Plawecki. (What is his hard contact?). I’ll be interested to see how this holds up.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 18, 2020 9:38:50 GMT -5
Big series coming up, but luckily, I think we win the pitching matchups. As long as Hart and Godley live up to expectations, we should secure our drafting position against the Phillies.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 18, 2020 9:40:19 GMT -5
Chaim gets a 100% mulligan for this year.
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Post by sibbysisti on Aug 18, 2020 10:19:33 GMT -5
Pretty pathetic performance thus far from our new GM assembling a pitching staff.
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 18, 2020 10:24:07 GMT -5
I don't understand how you can use that list as evidence that Bloom has done a bad job when the guys he acquired have the lowest hard-hit percentages and the guys who were already here have the highest.
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Post by manfred on Aug 18, 2020 10:26:08 GMT -5
Can’t judge any GM in this short a time. All I know is that the last 3 Sox GMs won a World Series. He should be judged on that scale.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 18, 2020 10:37:31 GMT -5
Chaim Bloom didn't find an elite pitcher on the waiver wire in year one, ergo, he sucks.
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Post by dmaineah on Aug 18, 2020 12:29:20 GMT -5
Chaim gets a 100% mulligan for this year. Absolutely not
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 18, 2020 12:40:08 GMT -5
Chaim gets a 100% mulligan for this year. Absolutely not What move did you want him to make? In fact, it's probably better they're this bad so the move should make them an instant contender while still getting them under the tax.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 18, 2020 12:43:40 GMT -5
Fun Stats of the Day:
Sox pitchers by HardHit %. Chaim Bloom acquisitions in Bold.
Robert Stock 0.0% (waivers) Heath Hembree 17.4% Phillips Valdez 25.6% (waivers) Martin Perez 28.6% (FA $) Austin Brice 32.1% (trade for Angeudis Santos) Chris Mazza 33.3% (waivers) Dylan Covey 36.4% (trade for PTBNL or $) Matt Hall 37.5% (trade for Jhon Nunez) Josh Osich 37.9% (waivers) Zack Godley 39.2% (released) Brandon Workman 41.2% Nathan Eovaldi 41.7% Colten Brewer 43.6% Marcus Walden 44.4% Ryan Weber 44.8% Josh Taylor 50.0% Kyle Hart 50.0% Jeffrey Springs 52.6% (trade for Sam Travis) Ryan Brasier 54.6% Matt Barnes 55.0%
The fact he has Hart, Weber and Brewer starting is also on Bloom. I'll also bet by the end of the year that looks much different. Yet thanks I did enjoy so good news.
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 18, 2020 12:52:30 GMT -5
Fun Fact #2.
Ryan Weber's .505 xwOBA when he was sent down would rank next-to-last (only Kyle Hart is worse).
His .262 since his return would rank 3rd after Taylor and Hembree.
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 18, 2020 12:59:07 GMT -5
Fun Stats of the Day:
Sox pitchers by HardHit %. Chaim Bloom acquisitions in Bold.
Robert Stock 0.0% (waivers) Heath Hembree 17.4% Phillips Valdez 25.6% (waivers) Martin Perez 28.6% (FA $) Austin Brice 32.1% (trade for Angeudis Santos) Chris Mazza 33.3% (waivers) Dylan Covey 36.4% (trade for PTBNL or $) Matt Hall 37.5% (trade for Jhon Nunez) Josh Osich 37.9% (waivers) Zack Godley 39.2% (released) Brandon Workman 41.2% Nathan Eovaldi 41.7% Colten Brewer 43.6% Marcus Walden 44.4% Ryan Weber 44.8% Josh Taylor 50.0% Kyle Hart 50.0% Jeffrey Springs 52.6% (trade for Sam Travis) Ryan Brasier 54.6% Matt Barnes 55.0%
The fact he has Hart, Weber and Brewer starting is also on Bloom. I'll also bet by the end of the year that looks much different. Yet thanks I did enjoy so good news. No, pretty sure that's that's Roenicke. Mazza got returned to the Alternate Other Training Preparation Site, again, and I don't see that as Bloom's choice.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 18, 2020 13:00:17 GMT -5
that that's
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 18, 2020 13:03:29 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 18, 2020 13:27:12 GMT -5
The fact he has Hart, Weber and Brewer starting is also on Bloom. I'll also bet by the end of the year that looks much different. Yet thanks I did enjoy so good news. No, pretty sure that's that's Roenicke. Mazza got returned to the Alternate Other Training Preparation Site, again, and I don't see that as Bloom's choice. How is it the Managers fault if Weber is his third best starter? Bloom has said starter depth even before the season was in need of improvement. Given we've seen some openers and all the guys up and down, I think it's clearly Bloom. You really think it's the manager calling up Hart and giving Brewer starts? Like I'm sure he has input, yet this sure looks like Bloom. Riffling through pitchers trying to find guys for next year and the future. It makes sense, yet no manager wants that. Heck if this is just the manager the GM isn't doing his job. The manager is there to manage the players the GM gives him.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 18, 2020 13:39:22 GMT -5
Why can't we just accept the fact that Dombrowski destroyed this team, but won a ring in the process? That, because it's a short year and they want to reset the luxury tax that maybe the emphasis in 2020 from everyone starting with John Henry, Tom Werner, Chaim Bloom and down to Ron Roenicke that this year is just going to be a condensed suck bag and be used as open try-outs for 2021 while possibly netting the best draft capital in a very long time? It was really interesting how fast Chris Sale got surgery as soon as the season was in peril. I think that was the first indicator that they weren't going to really waste assets in putting together a winning product in 2020. Then E-Rod got Covid-19 and missed the entire season as a result and it just even more cements the fact.
Their farm is terrible. There's some kids that have potential, but are currently off most of everyone's radar. They have no rotation outside of E-Rod and Sale and those really aren't two guys you can pin in 30 starts. Their bullpen is horrifyingly bad outside of maybe Taylor and Darwinzon. They have some youth in the lineup, but now I worry Benintendi will never live up to his hype and Devers seems to be reverting back to his bad habits.
This was the best time for this team to implode. Assuming they can get some assets back for some guys (strong sellers market).
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Post by incandenza on Aug 18, 2020 13:56:42 GMT -5
Why can't we just accept the fact that Dombrowski destroyed this team, but won a ring in the process? That, because it's a short year and they want to reset the luxury tax that maybe the emphasis in 2020 from everyone starting with John Henry, Tom Werner, Chaim Bloom and down to Ron Roenicke that this year is just going to be a condensed suck bag and be used as open try-outs for 2021 while possibly netting the best draft capital in a very long time? It was really interesting how fast Chris Sale got surgery as soon as the season was in peril. I think that was the first indicator that they weren't going to really waste assets in putting together a winning product in 2020. Then E-Rod got Covid-19 and missed the entire season as a result and it just even more cements the fact. Their farm is terrible. There's some kids that have potential, but are currently off most of everyone's radar. They have no rotation outside of E-Rod and Sale and those really aren't two guys you can pin in 30 starts. Their bullpen is horrifyingly bad outside of maybe Taylor and Darwinzon. They have some youth in the lineup, but now I worry Benintendi will never live up to his hype and Devers seems to be reverting back to his bad habits. This was the best time for this team to implode. Assuming they can get some assets back for some guys (strong sellers market). Point taken, but the frustrating thing is that Dombrowski won the ring and then destroyed the team with his disastrous handling of the post-2018 off-season.
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Post by huskies15 on Aug 18, 2020 14:08:43 GMT -5
Devers is the biggest story for the rest of the year for me (maybe Benny too but to a lesser extent). Currently, he's got the lowest BB% and highest K% of his career. All SSS caveats apply, but he's been a negative for them through 21 games played. Even in a lost season I want to see him start to snap out of this since he's so important to the future direction of the club.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Aug 18, 2020 14:09:30 GMT -5
What move did you want him to make? In fact, it's probably better they're this bad so the move should make them an instant contender while still getting them under the tax. Honestly I wouldn't even bother with him, he's made it pretty clear he's not going to see reason or context on any of this.
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 18, 2020 14:17:40 GMT -5
Fun Stats of the Day:
Sox pitchers by HardHit %. Chaim Bloom acquisitions in Bold.
Robert Stock 0.0% (waivers) Heath Hembree 17.4% Phillips Valdez 25.6% (waivers) Martin Perez 28.6% (FA $) Austin Brice 32.1% (trade for Angeudis Santos) Chris Mazza 33.3% (waivers) Dylan Covey 36.4% (trade for PTBNL or $) Matt Hall 37.5% (trade for Jhon Nunez) Josh Osich 37.9% (waivers) Zack Godley 39.2% (released) Brandon Workman 41.2% Nathan Eovaldi 41.7% Colten Brewer 43.6% Marcus Walden 44.4% Ryan Weber 44.8% Josh Taylor 50.0% Kyle Hart 50.0% Jeffrey Springs 52.6% (trade for Sam Travis) Ryan Brasier 54.6% Matt Barnes 55.0%
Looks interesting with the cluster, but I mean Covey, Hall, Mazza are all in the 4-6 inning range for the season, and Stock has thrown .2 more innings than Plawecki. (What is his hard contact?). I’ll be interested to see how this holds up. It's definitely a cherry-picked stunt. However, look at the totals by xwOBA:
.341 (103 PA) Established acquisitions (Perez) .353 (343 PA) No-cost acquisitions (9 guys you'd never heard of)
.354 (263 PA) Core incumbents (Eovaldi, Workman, Barnes, Walden, Hembree, Taylor) .421 (196 PA) Fringe incumbents (Brasier, Brewer, Weber, Hart)
The best 263 PA of the no-cost additions are .333, which is also MLB average.
Valdez and Brice have been better than MLB average in xwOBA, EV, and HH% (hard-hit %). So has Hembree.
Perez and Mazza have been better than MLB average in EV and HH%. Osich and Godley have been just better than average in EV. Ditto for Brewer and Hart.
Covey has been better in xwOBA.
Only Springs and Hall have been hit the way you'd expect all of these guys to get hit.
Eovaldi, Workman, Barnes, and Walden are below average in all three metrics, ditto for Weber and Brasier. Workman, though, is just a bit below, and has been good in high leverage.
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