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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Oct 20, 2020 22:03:34 GMT -5
This World Series is going completely as expected. Dodgers win in 5 games.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 21, 2020 1:36:39 GMT -5
Game 2 looks like Gonsolin/Snell
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Post by manfred on Oct 21, 2020 18:32:55 GMT -5
Game 1 was the least watched World Series game ever. MLB must have been ill when the Rays made it.
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Post by foreverred9 on Oct 21, 2020 19:08:39 GMT -5
Game 1 was the least watched World Series game ever. MLB must have been ill when the Rays made it. You're speculating, we don't know that But in all seriousness, ratings are down across the board and I doubt Houston would've helped much (ALCS was down 50%). So down 25% for game 1 doesn't seem to be any different of a story from the general theme of the MLB playoffs. Or of TV in general - Stanley cup down 38%, NBA finals down 50%.
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Post by manfred on Oct 21, 2020 19:44:10 GMT -5
Game 1 was the least watched World Series game ever. MLB must have been ill when the Rays made it. You're speculating, we don't know that But in all seriousness, ratings are down across the board and I doubt Houston would've helped much (ALCS was down 50%). So down 25% for game 1 doesn't seem to be any different of a story from the general theme of the MLB playoffs. Or of TV in general - Stanley cup down 38%, NBA finals down 50%. Touché. I guess I imagine they would like the Yankees, Sox, Cubs... the national teams. But these days, you are right, it might not matter. I think it is weird that sports ratings are tanking across the board. What else is there to do? I’d expect ratings would be up!
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Post by p23w on Oct 21, 2020 20:02:03 GMT -5
Touché.
I guess I imagine they would like the Yankees, Sox, Cubs... the national teams. But these days, you are right, it might not matter.
I think it is weird that sports ratings are tanking across the board. What else is there to do? I’d expect ratings would be up!
I think the major professional leagues brought much of the low ratings on by caving to political pressure. They gambled and lost. Then again quarantining has shown the viewing public the vapidity of both social media and cable programming. I'm not the least bit surprised.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Oct 21, 2020 21:19:05 GMT -5
Rays really need Nick Anderson to be dominant Nick Anderson if they have any shot this series. Excellent start
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 21, 2020 21:30:55 GMT -5
I know there's no such thing as a must win game that isn't a series clincher but for the Rays, this is as close as you can get.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Oct 21, 2020 22:27:48 GMT -5
How does a major league umpire miss a pitch that obvious?
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Post by soxfaninnj on Oct 21, 2020 22:49:56 GMT -5
We have a series boys!!
Thank you Castillo for not letting betts come up as the tying run cause that’s all we need is Mookie with a game tying World Series home run
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Post by kevfc89 on Oct 21, 2020 22:50:19 GMT -5
every time I was ready to write off the Rays this year they win
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 21, 2020 23:04:19 GMT -5
Impressive counting stat:
Andrew Simon @andrewsimonmlb · 17m Most total bases by a player in a single postseason
1. 50 - David Freese, 2011 2. 48 - Randy Arozarena, 2020
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 21, 2020 23:19:23 GMT -5
The Rays had to win this game. They actually had the pitching matchup advantage today as you knew today would be a bullpen game for LA and the Rays had arguably their best starter going, even though he hasn't exactly been an iron man on the mound himself.
I think this game will be the only win the Rays get in the Series.
Morton has been awesome in post-season play and his appearance in Game 3 will remind the Dodgers of their Game 7 demise in 2017 when after allowing a run in his first inning, Morton mowed them down the next 3 innings to secure the tainted Astros championship.
But Walker Buehler - well I've never seen him pitch a bad game, not that I see him that often, but when I do, I'm really impressed by him.
After that I'm guessing the Dodgers go with Urias in Game 4. He's tough. Not sure who the Rays go with. I'd guess Yarlbrough?
I think Kershaw will win clinching Game 5 and get the monkey off his back.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Oct 22, 2020 0:37:53 GMT -5
I came to here to see what people were saying about the game. That was hard to find what with all the Mookie love. So I banished that all to its own (endless) thread.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Oct 22, 2020 0:42:56 GMT -5
This World Series is going completely as expected. Dodgers win in 5 games. As of tonight, that means three straight wins for the Dodgers. Not impossible, but we'd be dis-respecting Morton if we bought into that, and I'm not ready to do it.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Oct 22, 2020 2:01:23 GMT -5
This World Series is going completely as expected. Dodgers win in 5 games. As of tonight, that means three straight wins for the Dodgers. Not impossible, but we'd be dis-respecting Morton if we bought into that, and I'm not ready to do it. Morton has been the best pitcher this postseason and that isn’t a fluke he’s big game pitcher, don’t understand why people are writing off the rays like they were lucky to get here but they are a damn good team and have a good shot to win this whole thing
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Oct 22, 2020 4:40:20 GMT -5
This World Series is going completely as expected. Dodgers win in 5 games. As of tonight, that means three straight wins for the Dodgers. Not impossible, but we'd be dis-respecting Morton if we bought into that, and I'm not ready to do it. The Dodgers have Buehler, Urias, and Kershaw lined up for games 3-5. I could be wrong about the number of games, but the Rays are going to have a hard time scoring from here on out. The Dodgers bullpen is well rested too. This was like a scheduled loss for the Dodgers. Gonsolin is their worst starter and they put all the non high leverage bullpen arms in game 2 besides Dustin May (who might be starting to get tired at the end of these playoffs).
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 22, 2020 8:15:16 GMT -5
As of tonight, that means three straight wins for the Dodgers. Not impossible, but we'd be dis-respecting Morton if we bought into that, and I'm not ready to do it. The Dodgers have Buehler, Urias, and Kershaw lined up for games 3-5. I could be wrong about the number of games, but the Rays are going to have a hard time scoring from here on out. The Dodgers bullpen is well rested too. This was like a scheduled loss for the Dodgers. Gonsolin is their worst starter and they put all the non high leverage bullpen arms in game 2 besides Dustin May (who might be starting to get tired at the end of these playoffs). I agree. The Dodgers are set up to win. I think they're clearly (to me) a better all around team. They have offense up and down the lineup. The Rays are usually a one man show on offense. Yesterday it was Lowe. The rest of the time it's been Arozarena who seems to be cooling off. The Rays have ridden Anderson and Fairbanks rather hard. It was good for them to see Loup pitch so well for them, but I think that pen will be shot soon, given the way the Rays cycle through pitchers (and yeah, I know that sounds weird after a Dodgers bullpen game). I think that bullpen game actually straightened out their pitching. Their high leverage relievers are rested. No reason (other than old fashioned ineffectiveness) why May or Gonsolin can't provide length in their next start (Game 6). Kershaw and Buehler are rested enough and they stayed away from Urias, so he can give them innings in Game 4. I think Kershaw will have his 2018 David Price Series this year, and as awesome as Morton has been, that's about as good as Buehler has been and I think it's more likely Buehler shuts down the Rays HR or nothing offense than Morton shuts down the Dodgers. If I'm wrong and Morton is dominant, then we really will have a Series. I think the Rays won the game I expected them to win (just barely considering it was 5-0), but that the Dodgers will win the next 3 and take the Series. If I'm wrong we could be in for an exciting 7 game series which wouldn't be a bad thing either!
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 22, 2020 10:25:02 GMT -5
Thinking of becoming one of those annoying people who tweets "can you believe they traded this guy?!?!?!" throughout the World Series but doing it for Margot instead of Betts.
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Post by manfred on Oct 22, 2020 11:47:52 GMT -5
Thinking of becoming one of those annoying people who tweets "can you believe they traded this guy?!?!?!" throughout the World Series but doing it for Margot instead of Betts. Come on in. The water is nice.
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 22, 2020 12:50:18 GMT -5
I came to here to see what people were saying about the game. That was hard to find what with all the Mookie love. So I banished that all to its own (endless) thread. A good excuse to run down some reasons why folks should be rooting as hard as possible for the Rays, starting with ones I haven't alluded to already.
1. I'm all for Mookie eventually winning a ring or two for the Dodgers ... but after playing just 55 regular-season games for them? It has to be tougher than that, doesn't it?
2. The Dodgers certainly have loyal fans who deserve to see their team break its championship drought, but another year or two would just make the joy even greater, right? In the meantime, they have massive revenues in part because their attendance is buttressed by casual fans who treat the game as a social event and are notorious for leaving games early regardless of the score. It's an unfair advantage generated by the simple fact that a baseball ticket is less expensive than a quantity of cocaine.
3. Like every true baseball fan, I'm rooting hard for Kershaw, whose poor post-season record is almost entirely the result of being asked to carry too heavy a workload and not complaining about it. He can win games 1 and 5. And he deserves a ring. But again, that doesn't mean they have to win the series this year.
And now the real reasons.
4. The 2013 Red Sox are the only team in the 25-year history of the three-round playoffs to have had the best record in MLB and then beat the NL team with the best record. However, we had tied the Cardinals with 97 wins. A Dodger victory this year doesn't just match our feat, it surpasses it and relegates us to a footnote.
5. If you discount hockey (which at ESPN is grouped with other sports like lacrosse and curling), the Boston area is the only one other than New York (with its double-franchise advantage) that can claim two seasons where they won two titles -- the Sox and Pats in 2004 and 2018. A Dodger victory gives LA two Dodgers-Lakers seasons. It's bad enough that the Lakers tied the Celtics with their 17th championship. Do we really want to lose sole claim to this other distinction as well?
And the even more direct reasons ...
5. A Rays success augurs well for us because our current President of Baseball Ops helped build their team as second-in-command.
6. We finishied 12-9 against competition so tough that it translates to a 98-win pace instead of 92 or 93. A victory for the virtual East League over the West means that it's possible that we were even better than that, while a Dodger victory means the opposite.
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Post by manfred on Oct 22, 2020 13:07:09 GMT -5
There are good reasons to root for either team, largely because, in the end, neither one winning means anything to the Sox. So it is a freebie.
Just make it fun.
I am personally for the Dodgers, and I’m a little nervous. Their pitching looks rough. Kershaw is going to have to come through. But, I take comfort in the fact that whoever wins, within a week or so I won’t care at all.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 22, 2020 13:18:42 GMT -5
As long as it's not the Yankees winning the World Series, it's all good.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 22, 2020 16:04:49 GMT -5
I may have already posted this, but I'm married to a Rays fan from St. Pete and I need her and her family to have something to talk about in Rays history that's good that doesn't involve the Red Sox (2008 ALCS and "Game 162," which actually nearly derailed our relationship in its nascent stages when I refused to talk to her for a few days... I was a different person then ). That said I also really want Kershaw to shake the "couldn't win the big one" tag from his HOF career narrative as well. And I like how both teams have built their clubs, so, either way I'm cool with it.
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Post by manfred on Oct 22, 2020 16:35:30 GMT -5
Gold Glove finalists out. Sox shut out. How is JBJ not a top-3 CFer?
Mookie’s first year in NL gives us a rare unification bout between him and Heyward. The winner has a claim to best-of-the-best.
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