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Post by manfred on Jan 22, 2021 10:15:16 GMT -5
Angels are on the prowl. I would not be surprised if they got Odorizzi and Bauer. They need to get urgent in the Trout years.
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Post by fenwaymabe on Jan 22, 2021 10:18:28 GMT -5
Yes, the Angels need pitching in the worst way. It's time for them to snag a front of the rotation arm. After reading the Kennedy interview the other day, I don't think Odorizzi is going to be in the cards for the Sox. Just my gut feeling.
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Jan 22, 2021 13:12:23 GMT -5
I'm alright with losing out on Odorizzi.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jan 22, 2021 13:21:46 GMT -5
Yes, the Angels need pitching in the worst way. It's time for them to snag a front of the rotation arm. After reading the Kennedy interview the other day, I don't think Odorizzi is going to be in the cards for the Sox. Just my gut feeling. I can't see him agreeing to a one year deal plus an option. So the Interest Kings or Kings of Interest are out. It's probably the Angels that have the best chance of landing him and Bauer. Signing free agents is hard.
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Post by ericmvan on Jan 22, 2021 18:59:35 GMT -5
I'm alright with losing out on Odorizzi. So am I. I just changed my mind.
They need another starter for this year, no question about that. The question is how long a contract makes sense. What they do depends completely on their internal projections for Houck, Pivetta, Mata, Seabold, and Ward. In 2022 the first 4 of those guys will be your 4th and 5th starter candidates. That seems to be plenty of depth. It doesn't make much sense to sign a guy who is likely to be passed in the rotation by one of the four, unless your intent is to trade him this winter. The same thing is true in 2023, except that Eovaldi is gone, Ward arrives and all five are your 3 through 7 candidates. You can imagine them thinking that Tanaka is guaranteed of being one of the four best starters going forward (through a combo of being high on him, and low on the five guys), and you can imagine them having no interest in anyone on more than a 1-year deal because they're high on the five guys. I'm high on the 5 guys, since I'm super high on Houck and higher than most on Pivetta, and completely buy the idea that Seabold may be massively underrated because everyone underrates command as a tool. What seems to me to make the most sense is to sign the guy you like best among those willing to take a 1-year deal with an option. I would roll the dice on the guy who has a shot at being better than MLB average and hence a legit #3, as long as his floor is a #4.
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Post by electricityverdugo99 on Jan 22, 2021 19:10:02 GMT -5
I'm alright with losing out on Odorizzi. So am I. I just changed my mind.
They need another starter for this year, no question about that. The question is how long a contract makes sense. What they do depends completely on their internal projections for Houck, Pivetta, Mata, Seabold, and Ward. In 2022 the first 4 of those guys will be your 4th and 5th starter candidates. That seems to be plenty of depth. It doesn't make much sense to sign a guy who is likely to be passed in the rotation by one of the four, unless your intent is to trade him this winter. The same thing is true in 2023, except that Eovaldi is gone, Ward arrives and all five are your 3 through 7 candidates. You can imagine them thinking that Tanaka is guaranteed of being one of the four best starters going forward (through a combo of being high on him, and low on the five guys), and you can imagine them having no interest in anyone on more than a 1-year deal because they're high on the five guys. I'm high on the 5 guys, since I'm super high on Houck and higher than most on Pivetta, and completely buy the idea that Seabold may be massively underrated because everyone underrates command as a tool. What seems to me to make the most sense is to sign the guy you like best among those willing to take a 1-year deal with an option. I would roll the dice on the guy who has a shot at being better than MLB average and hence a legit #3, as long as his floor is a #4. Yeah, James Paxton makes a lot of sense for those reasons. Good trade deadline candidate too.
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