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Post by vermontsox1 on Dec 1, 2021 23:29:10 GMT -5
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Post by soxfaninnj on Dec 1, 2021 23:31:28 GMT -5
Does this mean we got Suzuki?
Add: ok for real this time emergency podcast?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Dec 1, 2021 23:31:34 GMT -5
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Post by incandenza on Dec 1, 2021 23:32:09 GMT -5
Ah, the thing that I thought would happen happened! Without even knowing the return I like it. Suzuki in the offing?
ADD: Hahahaha... welcome back JBJ!
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Post by vermontsox1 on Dec 1, 2021 23:32:32 GMT -5
Hamilton and Binelas are the Brewers #16 and #17 prospects respectively according the MLB Pipeline.
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Post by bluechip on Dec 1, 2021 23:32:47 GMT -5
Getting back Jackie Bradley Jr. and prospects David Hamilton and Alex Binelas.
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Post by baseball3 on Dec 1, 2021 23:33:32 GMT -5
Ugh JBJ back. Jesus I'm not sure I'm ready for him again.
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Post by jkfer98 on Dec 1, 2021 23:36:09 GMT -5
David Hamilton, SS/2B via MLB Pipeline:
"Scouting grades: Hit: 45 | Power: 35 | Run: 70 | Arm: 50 | Field: 50 | Overall: 45
Hamilton shot up Draft boards with a solid sophomore season at the University of Texas, where he was named to the All-Big 12 second team and the Austin Regional All-Tournament Team after finishing second on the squad with a .291 average to go with a .404 on-base percentage and 31 stolen bases, the most for a Longhorn in 16 years. He was also named Texas’ defensive player of the year. Hamilton missed his junior season after rupturing his Achilles tendon in a scooter accident, but the Brewers love athletic shortstops and they liked this one enough to draft him in the eighth round. Milwaukee persuaded him to sign with a $400,000 bonus, well above slot value of $162,000. It was the second straight year the Brewers tried such a strategy with a high-ceiling college player. They drafted Oregon State pitcher Drew Rasmussen in the sixth round a year earlier when he was recovering from Tommy John surgery. Hamilton reported to 2020 Spring Training at 100 percent, only to be denied his debut season by the coronavirus pandemic.
Hamilton’s calling card is some of the best raw speed and baserunning instincts in the organization, but he was also a pleasant surprise with the bat when he reported to the Brewers' fall instructional league as a 23-year-old finally getting a taste of pro ball. Hamilton has little power, but he does hit line drives and reaches base enough to access his speed.
His average arm makes him a stretch for shortstop at the highest level, but he has plenty of defensive ability to play a good second base or center field. Wherever he lands, scouts see Hamilton as an up-the-middle defender. The Brewers like his makeup enough that they have pushed him aggressively with a move to Double-A in his first full season."
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Post by jkfer98 on Dec 1, 2021 23:36:50 GMT -5
Alex Binelas, 3B/1B via MLB Pipeline:
"Scouting grades: Hit: 45 | Power: 55 | Run: 45 | Arm: 50 | Field: 45 | Overall: 45
The state of Wisconsin has cranked out a slew of talented position players in recent years, most notably Jarred Kelenic, Gavin Lux and Daulton Varsho. Another product of the Badger State, Binelas slammed 14 homers as a Louisville freshman after declining to sign when he dropped to the Nationals in the 35th round in the 2018 Draft. He played just two games in 2020 before breaking the hamate bone in his right hand. He turned around a slow start to hit .256/.348/.621 with 19 homers in 50 games this spring, leading the Brewers to take him in the third round and sign him for right around slot at $700,000.
With strength and bat speed, Binelas uses the entire field and doesn't chase many pitches out of the strike zone, though he doesn't have a history of hitting for high averages. He draws a decent amount of walks, but he's a streaky hitter who falls into prolonged slumps when his timing gets off at the plate.
Binelas also lacks an obvious defensive home. He began the season at third base but most scouts don't like his hands, footwork or funky throwing motion, and he also looked rough at first base after moving there in mid-March. Though his speed plays as fringy in games, he recorded plus 60-yard dash times on scout day in the fall, so his best option may be left or right field. The Brewers have used him at third base in the early days of his pro career in the hopes that he can improve enough under their guidance to stick at the hot corner."
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Post by vermontsox1 on Dec 1, 2021 23:37:15 GMT -5
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Post by keninten on Dec 1, 2021 23:38:55 GMT -5
Like Hamilton but not JBJ @ $11 mil next year
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Post by kevfc89 on Dec 1, 2021 23:39:25 GMT -5
I like this if we sign Suzuki
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Post by vermontsox1 on Dec 1, 2021 23:39:29 GMT -5
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Post by orion09 on Dec 1, 2021 23:40:37 GMT -5
Yeah, we’ll have to wait to see what comes next, but I don’t like this at all. Trading a 2.3 WAR player with 2 years of control for a -0.7 WAR player and two fringy prospects. Net downgrade of 3.0 WAR
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Post by soxfaninnj on Dec 1, 2021 23:40:43 GMT -5
Sign suzuki and let Jbj platoon with arroyo and I’m happy
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Post by incandenza on Dec 1, 2021 23:41:01 GMT -5
I like this if we sign Suzuki I like it if we sign Schwarber!
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Dec 1, 2021 23:42:04 GMT -5
Something tells me Scwarber to LF, JBJ to CF, Dugie to RF and Kiké to 2B.
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Post by orion09 on Dec 1, 2021 23:42:32 GMT -5
Not to mention… I enjoyed watching JBJ’s CF highlights, but I wasn’t heartbroken to see him move on. Not looking forward to another year of watching him struggle out of the 8 hole
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Post by baseball3 on Dec 1, 2021 23:42:41 GMT -5
Yeah, we’ll have to wait to see what comes next, but I don’t like this at all. Trading a 2.3 WAR player with 2 years of control for a -0.7 WAR player and two fringy prospects. Net downgrade of 3.0 WAR One of the prospects is a bat only on top of it. High risk trade.
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Post by julyanmorley on Dec 1, 2021 23:44:08 GMT -5
JBJ counts $12 million against the tax. Say he's overpaid by $10 million Renfroe maybe had $5 million of surplus value for his last two arb years.
So Sox paying like $15 million for these two prospects
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Post by threeifbaerga on Dec 1, 2021 23:45:55 GMT -5
Yeah, we’ll have to wait to see what comes next, but I don’t like this at all. Trading a 2.3 WAR player with 2 years of control for a -0.7 WAR player and two fringy prospects. Net downgrade of 3.0 WAR
IIRC Binelas was a legitimate blue chipper before the injury. He definitely acquitted himself in his first taste of pro ball.
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Post by orion09 on Dec 1, 2021 23:47:06 GMT -5
Something tells me Scwarber to LF, JBJ to CF, Dugie to RF and Kiké to 2B. Kiké had 9 OAA in 223 attempts in CF. JBJ had 2 OAA in 193 attempts. Kiké also had -4 OAA in 130 attempts at 2B. Not sure I’m crazy about that realignment
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Dec 1, 2021 23:48:34 GMT -5
I like Jackie....but why? Renfroe was a much needed bat in the lineup. This doesn't make sense since now Kiké is no longer in center.
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Post by taiwansox on Dec 1, 2021 23:50:36 GMT -5
I really don’t like JBJ’s bat, but it’s part of a coherent strategy of going for fly ball pitchers and an elite outfield defense. Renfroe was like the Devers of the outfield, flashed plus tools but overall sloppiness turns him into a neutral or minus defender. Kinda looks like Duran is going to be packaged away
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 1, 2021 23:50:48 GMT -5
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