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Post by patford on Apr 22, 2022 16:15:56 GMT -5
The longest period of sustained success Dalbec has had at any level (I think) was the second half of last season. I can't fathom why people are again ready to dump him after a handful of games.
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Post by patford on Apr 22, 2022 16:20:26 GMT -5
There's tremendous balance in the AL right now. It's not like any team is running away from the pack.
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Post by manfred on Apr 22, 2022 16:20:44 GMT -5
Dalbec has now played 167 games in his career. He is at .8 bWAR. He has 207 Ks in 537 ABs, an OPS+ of 108. He is not *not* a MLB, but he is, well, what he is: he hits homers but doesn’t get on a lot. It isn’t like a full season of fames is that small a sample. And it isb’t like he is some 22-year-old. He’s 27 and experienced.
I am not saying release him. I am saying he is not a strong everyday 1b.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 22, 2022 16:21:33 GMT -5
Dalbec has now played 167 games in his career. He is at .8 bWAR. He has 207 Ks in 537 ABs, an OPS+ of 108. He is not *not* a MLB, but he is, well, what he is: he hits homers but doesn’t get on a lot. It isn’t like a full season of fames is that small a sample. And it isb’t like he is some 22-year-old. He’s 27 and experienced. I am not saying release him. I am saying he is not a strong everyday 1b. If you bring Casas up now, you are giving up on Dalbec, which is a total waste of a potentially good asset. Dalbec's age is misleading since he spent a lot of time developing his pitching. He is obviously still developing. Sorry, I'm not on board with making drastic decisions that don't even need to be made given his .359 xwOBA after 11 games. If Dalbec's .490 xBA liner to 3B yesterday in the 9th was a hit, no one would be even discussing this nonsense.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Apr 22, 2022 16:24:58 GMT -5
I honestly think Franchy's biggest issue is between his ears. He rakes and hits bombs in AAA and then in the Show he looks like a deer in the headlights, particularly at the plate. If he can get past that and let his tools out, he has upside. How did you come to this conclusion? Or is it just a feeling? It's an honest thought? It comes from watching him when he was handed the starting LF job last year. He was late on fastballs and way ahead of breaking balls; what AC called "being in-between." He looked completely lost at the plate. He got plenty of rope but got sent down eventually and then immediately started raking at AAA. Sure, AAA pitchers aren't as good as MLB pitchers but not every guy who gets sent down suddenly starts raking back in AAA. So either his tools are too much for AAA but not nearly enough for MLB or he just had trouble focusing where the talent is stronger and the games really count. I look forward to his next bite at the apple to see if he can show that it was the latter and that he's overcome his previous problems.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 22, 2022 16:27:02 GMT -5
How did you come to this conclusion? Or is it just a feeling? It's an honest thought? It comes from watching him when he was handed the starting LF job last year. He was late on fastballs and way ahead of breaking balls; what AC called "being in-between." He looked completely lost at the plate. He got plenty of rope but got sent down eventually and then immediately started raking at AAA. Sure, AAA pitchers aren't as good as MLB pitchers but not every guy who gets sent down suddenly starts raking back in AAA. So either his tools are too much for AAA but not nearly enough for MLB or he just had trouble focusing where the talent is stronger and the games really count. I look forward to his next bite at the apple to see if he can show that it was the latter and that he's overcome his previous problems.
I'd just be careful making assumptions about what is in a person's head without any chance of ever knowing anything about it. Maybe he's just not a good enough hitter and there's absolutely nothing mental about it. That explanation makes way more sense to me.
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Post by patford on Apr 22, 2022 16:46:40 GMT -5
It's an honest thought? It comes from watching him when he was handed the starting LF job last year. He was late on fastballs and way ahead of breaking balls; what AC called "being in-between." He looked completely lost at the plate. He got plenty of rope but got sent down eventually and then immediately started raking at AAA. Sure, AAA pitchers aren't as good as MLB pitchers but not every guy who gets sent down suddenly starts raking back in AAA. So either his tools are too much for AAA but not nearly enough for MLB or he just had trouble focusing where the talent is stronger and the games really count. I look forward to his next bite at the apple to see if he can show that it was the latter and that he's overcome his previous problems.
I'd just be careful making assumptions about what is in a person's head without any chance of ever knowing anything about it. Maybe he's just not a good enough hitter and there's absolutely nothing mental about it. That explanation makes way more sense to me. Ideally it is mental. Baseball is perhaps similar to golf in a sense that things can just go off for reasons hard to understand and might stay that way forever. Or there are guys who "figure it out." It's worse when you have a Chavis who simply can not hit a FB.
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Post by manfred on Apr 22, 2022 16:49:33 GMT -5
I'd just be careful making assumptions about what is in a person's head without any chance of ever knowing anything about it. Maybe he's just not a good enough hitter and there's absolutely nothing mental about it. That explanation makes way more sense to me. Ideally it is mental. Baseball is perhaps similar to golf in a sense that things can just go off for reasons hard to understand and might stay that way forever. Or there are guys who "figure it out." It's worse when you have a Chavis who simply can not hit a FB. (In 21 games with Pirates Chavis is hitting .382 and is younger than Dalbec)
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Apr 22, 2022 16:51:45 GMT -5
It's an honest thought? It comes from watching him when he was handed the starting LF job last year. He was late on fastballs and way ahead of breaking balls; what AC called "being in-between." He looked completely lost at the plate. He got plenty of rope but got sent down eventually and then immediately started raking at AAA. Sure, AAA pitchers aren't as good as MLB pitchers but not every guy who gets sent down suddenly starts raking back in AAA. So either his tools are too much for AAA but not nearly enough for MLB or he just had trouble focusing where the talent is stronger and the games really count. I look forward to his next bite at the apple to see if he can show that it was the latter and that he's overcome his previous problems.
I'd just be careful making assumptions about what is in a person's head without any chance of ever knowing anything about it. Maybe he's just not a good enough hitter and there's absolutely nothing mental about it. That explanation makes way more sense to me. Well, that's what I said -- that was the "former" scenario. I'm hoping it's the latter.
I'll take AC's word for it. He didn't come out and say "he's overwhelmed by the big Boston stage" but he definitely used euphemisms for it. That was a year ago. If we're lucky, he's finally ready to break out.
But I doubt he'll come up anytime soon, barring injury.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 25, 2022 9:55:10 GMT -5
Ideally it is mental. Baseball is perhaps similar to golf in a sense that things can just go off for reasons hard to understand and might stay that way forever. Or there are guys who "figure it out." It's worse when you have a Chavis who simply can not hit a FB. (In 21 games with Pirates Chavis is hitting .382 and is younger than Dalbec) He had a six-game stretch this year in which he hit .550/.571/.850 with a .588 BABIP. In the rest of his time with them he's been pretty mediocre.
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Post by manfred on Apr 25, 2022 9:56:53 GMT -5
(In 21 games with Pirates Chavis is hitting .382 and is younger than Dalbec) He had a six-game stretch this year in which he hit .550/.571/.850 with a .588 BABIP. In the rest of his time with them he's been pretty mediocre. Yeah… I may have sounded like I was snarking at Dalbec, which was not intended. I don’t regret trading Chavis — if he makes it, it’ll be elsewhere — but I am rooting for him.
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Post by nomar on Apr 25, 2022 10:27:53 GMT -5
There’s only 3 or 4 position players performing well so far this year. The roster basically is what it is. I don’t think it’s worth rushing Casas up. Even if he rakes, his replacement value over Dalbec isn’t going to change the direction of the ship. I think you need to just give the team more time. It’s been painful to watch, but we could be singing a different tune in a couple of weeks. The beginning of the season is a whipsaw
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