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4/22-4/24 Red Sox @ Rays Series Thread
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Post by incandenza on Apr 24, 2022 14:15:19 GMT -5
the fact we have 3 everyday players hitting under .200 still is very disturbing. Matched in our division by only... [checks notes]... the Rays, Orioles, and Yankees.
Actually, the Yankees have 4 and the Rays have 5. (The Jays have 4 under .220.)
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 24, 2022 14:18:31 GMT -5
Orioles are scoring 2.5 runs a game this year. Their only exciting player, Mullins, is hitting .190. I wonder just how bad the TV viewership is for that team.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Apr 24, 2022 14:20:37 GMT -5
there isn't a starting pitcher on the current roster that can consistently give us, even 6, innings. So we are gonna have to rely on secondary arms the whole dang season ? I'm on the precipice boys. This could get real ugly.
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Post by soxfanatic on Apr 24, 2022 14:21:55 GMT -5
A lot of frustrating games on the young season...
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Post by soxfaninnj on Apr 24, 2022 14:22:10 GMT -5
I don’t understand. If houck was available why didn’t he come into the game in the 5th when we had a chance to win this game
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Post by manfred on Apr 24, 2022 14:22:55 GMT -5
These last two days have had a 2020 feel. Not so bad, obviously, but similarly joyless. This team is worse than bad: they are boring.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 24, 2022 14:24:44 GMT -5
It's time to call up Sean Murphy from the minors Doesn't he play for Las Vegas?
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Post by incandenza on Apr 24, 2022 14:28:00 GMT -5
there isn't a starting pitcher on the current roster that can consistently give us, even 6, innings. So we are gonna have to rely on secondary arms the whole dang season ? I'm on the precipice boys. This could get real ugly. Matched by only... [checks notes]...
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 24, 2022 14:30:06 GMT -5
Dalbec, another day, another 3 LOB.
Why isn't he hitting 9th? He's killing them in squandered opportunities.
No post 2000 Red Sox team has sniffed the World Series after a poor April. Not like it's impossible, but I don't see this team reversing the trend.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 24, 2022 14:30:22 GMT -5
A good team playing poorly, or a mediocre team being what they are ?
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Apr 24, 2022 14:31:32 GMT -5
there isn't a starting pitcher on the current roster that can consistently give us, even 6, innings. So we are gonna have to rely on secondary arms the whole dang season ? I'm on the precipice boys. This could get real ugly. Matched by only... [checks notes]... if i understand this correctly, you are saying no one else does as well. Well, there you go. A market inefficiency. Start addressing right now.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 24, 2022 14:32:02 GMT -5
These last two days have had a 2020 feel. Not so bad, obviously, but similarly joyless. This team is worse than bad: they are boring. The quick lousy at bats are what kill me. They have the third lowest walk rate in the majors, and I think they have the highest O-swing percentage and are seeing the fewest pitches per at bat?
I miss Schwarber.
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Post by kevfc89 on Apr 24, 2022 14:33:17 GMT -5
and raffy is still struggling with fastballs
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Post by manfred on Apr 24, 2022 14:33:21 GMT -5
Matched by only... [checks notes]... if i understand this correctly, you are saying no one else does as well. Well, there you go. A market inefficiency. Start addressing right now. Yes… where is there a starter who can go even 6? <scans boxscore>
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Post by incandenza on Apr 24, 2022 14:34:11 GMT -5
Dalbec, another day, another 3 LOB. Why isn't he hitting 9th?... There's some sort of Dalbec Derangement Syndrome going on here. We are one day removed from a game in which he had the team's ONLY meaningful hit, and he's hardly been the only guy struggling.
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Post by manfred on Apr 24, 2022 14:36:13 GMT -5
Dalbec, another day, another 3 LOB. Why isn't he hitting 9th?... There's some sort of Dalbec Derangement Syndrome going on here. We are one day removed from a game in which he had the team's ONLY meaningful hit, and he's hardly been the only guy struggling. Maybe slight derangement, but it is also deja vu. The first half of last year was excruciating, too. There comes a point when one gets tired of waiting.
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Post by notstarboard on Apr 24, 2022 14:36:50 GMT -5
Matched by only... [checks notes]... if i understand this correctly, you are saying no one else does as well. Well, there you go. A market inefficiency. Start addressing right now. The inefficiency is being addressed by MIRPs starting to outcompete SIRPs. The line between starters are relievers is blurring; rather than mostly one-inning (or less, while LOOGies were a thing) relievers and starters who'd ideally go 6, now it's starters who often only go 4-5 and an increasing number of relievers who can go 2-3.
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Post by taiwansox on Apr 24, 2022 14:37:07 GMT -5
I’m so glad I was away from the TV for Brasier coming in with the bases loaded, I would have been pretty pissed lol
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 24, 2022 14:38:58 GMT -5
Dalbec, another day, another 3 LOB. Why isn't he hitting 9th?... There's some sort of Dalbec Derangement Syndrome going on here. We are one day removed from a game in which he had the team's ONLY meaningful hit, and he's hardly been the only guy struggling.
Just look at how handsome this young man is.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Apr 24, 2022 14:39:03 GMT -5
Dalbec, another day, another 3 LOB. Why isn't he hitting 9th?... There's some sort of Dalbec Derangement Syndrome going on here. We are one day removed from a game in which he had the team's ONLY meaningful hit, and he's hardly been the only guy struggling. He has 2 RBI on the year and a sub .500 OPS. He got his 2nd RBI in the 10th inning after going hitless through 9. He's having the worst month of his career and the first half of last year was painful. He's not good.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Apr 24, 2022 14:42:00 GMT -5
if i understand this correctly, you are saying no one else does as well. Well, there you go. A market inefficiency. Start addressing right now. The inefficiency is being addressed by MIRPs starting to outcompete SIRPs. The line between starters are relievers is blurring; rather than mostly one-inning (or less, while LOOGies were a thing) and starters who'd ideally go 6, now it's starters who often go 4-5 and an increasing number of relievers who can go 2-3.
but there are not as good pitchers. the reason why someone is relief, more often than not, is because they have 2 offerings to get hitters out. This is pure insanity to me. The mound is still the same dimension, yet in a span of 2-3 years, the whole concept has changed ? The Rays started this nonsense, because they can't afford TOR arms. So the league now has decided to further cover that weakness, by, doing what they do. F that. Start signing and developing pitchers that can pitch deep into games. Blow through the self imposed salary cap, I don't care. They will get overused, you watch. And then what will the answer be ?
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 24, 2022 14:44:49 GMT -5
Backup Bobby getting screwed by the umps
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Post by mattpicard on Apr 24, 2022 14:45:29 GMT -5
There's some sort of Dalbec Derangement Syndrome going on here. We are one day removed from a game in which he had the team's ONLY meaningful hit, and he's hardly been the only guy struggling. He has 2 RBI on the year and a sub .500 OPS. He got his 2nd RBI in the 10th inning after going hitless through 9. He's having the worst month of his career and the first half of last year was painful. He's not good. Yeah, we're talking about a guy with a career .288 OBP vs RHP and a 35% k-rate. He can be a useful player, and certainly runs hot and cold, but as Ian alluded to on the last pod, he's not an MLB starting first baseman. He's not someone I ever have confidence in to come through, unless maybe it's against a mediocre left-hander (certainly not ShaneMac). Doesn't mean he won't occasionally drive a surprise clutch hit, but he's not a guy I'm inclined to "give more time" to to figure it out. We know what the profile is.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 24, 2022 14:45:40 GMT -5
Dalbec, another day, another 3 LOB. Why isn't he hitting 9th?... There's some sort of Dalbec Derangement Syndrome going on here. We are one day removed from a game in which he had the team's ONLY meaningful hit, and he's hardly been the only guy struggling. Plus the ump has called about 5 balls against him strikes today.
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Post by notstarboard on Apr 24, 2022 14:45:51 GMT -5
The inefficiency is being addressed by MIRPs starting to outcompete SIRPs. The line between starters are relievers is blurring; rather than mostly one-inning (or less, while LOOGies were a thing) and starters who'd ideally go 6, now it's starters who often go 4-5 and an increasing number of relievers who can go 2-3.
but there are not as good pitchers. the reason why someone is relief, more often than not, is because they have 2 offerings to get hitters out. This is pure insanity to me. The mound is still the same dimension, yet in a span of 2-3 years, the whole concept has changed ? The Rays started this nonsense, because they can't afford TOR arms. So the league now has decided that to further cover that weakness, by, doing what they do. F that. Start signing and developing pitchers that can pitch deep into games. Blow through the self imposed salary cap, I don't care. They will get overused, you watch. And then what will the answer be ? They're good enough. You only need to go through the order once if you're going 2-3.
Pitchers don't go as deep into games in large part specifically because of the overuse issue you called out. Hardly anyone is throwing 100+ pitches anymore even if they've been pitching well. The other issue is that teams don't want their pitchers going through the order a third time. Players having had multiple at-bats to get used to your stuff while you're simultaneously starting to tire is a recipe for damage.
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