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Post by Guidas on Jun 24, 2022 15:09:35 GMT -5
Yes, Red Skin could be offensive until you saw how distinguished the Indian on the helmet looked. My kids said the Red Skins helmet was the “coolest helmet ever”. I don’t see any of those names offensive. So, a team named the "Brown Skins" would be Ok, as long as the logo bore some resemblance to a distinguished person - perhaps Colin Powell, Jackie Robinson or MLK? P.J. O'Rourke had a hilarious satirical essay - when those were allowed - that said sports team names should accurately reflect the metro population where they are located, and then proceeded to list some of his suggested monikers. "The Dallas Drunk White Trash" is the tamest example. The rest are very...uh...not tame in a 1980s Richard Pryor/George Carlin/Eddie Murphy sort of way.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 24, 2022 15:10:48 GMT -5
Jose Ramirez is outperforming his xwOBA by an insane amount. .424 vs .367
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Post by Don Caballero on Jun 24, 2022 15:14:47 GMT -5
Their uniforms should look similar to a mall cop or a security service. The name Guardians makes me think of a security service. Yeah and besides what the shit are you even GUARDING in Cleveland? Is there anything worth stealing there? Wouldn't it have gotten stolen already anyway?
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 24, 2022 15:16:58 GMT -5
Their uniforms should look similar to a mall cop or a security service. The name Guardians makes me think of a security service. Yeah and besides what the shit are you even GUARDING in Cleveland? Is there anything worth stealing there? Wouldn't it have gotten stolen already anyway? The source of the foul stench?
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jun 24, 2022 15:31:56 GMT -5
The Guardians has to be the most stupid name for any team ever. They may as well have called themselves the PCs (for political correct). A better choice would have been to use something like MILB used: Sea Dogs Yard Goats Flying Squirrels I read an interview several years ago and a Native American Indian said that he was glad for the use of Braves, Red Skins, and Indians, because if not for their use his people would be forgotten entirely. As someone who has read hundreds of books on Native American history I see no disrespect toward them by the use of their names or symbols. Cleveland should change the name back to Indians. Red Sox is a pretty stupid name if we're being honest here
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 24, 2022 15:38:24 GMT -5
Red Sox brilliantly deconstructs fandom by making us confront the reality that we are just rooting for laundry.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 24, 2022 15:49:58 GMT -5
Their uniforms should look similar to a mall cop or a security service. The name Guardians makes me think of a security service. Yeah and besides what the shit are you even GUARDING in Cleveland? Is there anything worth stealing there? Wouldn't it have gotten stolen already anyway? Well, the river caught on fire in the 1970s because it was so polluted. So there's that. And there are a few Jimi Hendrix guitars in the RRHOF, along with one of Elvis's. So, those are hills to die on.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 24, 2022 15:54:41 GMT -5
The Guardians has to be the most stupid name for any team ever. They may as well have called themselves the PCs (for political correct). A better choice would have been to use something like MILB used: Sea Dogs Yard Goats Flying Squirrels I read an interview several years ago and a Native American Indian said that he was glad for the use of Braves, Red Skins, and Indians, because if not for their use his people would be forgotten entirely. As someone who has read hundreds of books on Native American history I see no disrespect toward them by the use of their names or symbols. Cleveland should change the name back to Indians. Red Sox is a pretty stupid name if we're being honest here Actually goes back to the Civil War. Many Northern troops wore standard-issue red "union suits" as their underwear. It was basically a onesie that went down to their ankles with a hatch on the butt and buttons down to the crotch. "Red legs" (actually Cincinnati's full name) and "Red socks" were among the nicknames given to the soldiers by some Northern (and some Southern) newspapers.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jun 24, 2022 16:03:22 GMT -5
Red Sox is a pretty stupid name if we're being honest here Actually goes back to the Civil War. Many Northern troops wore standard-issue red "union suits" as their underwear. It was basically a onesie that went down to their ankles with a hatch on the butt and buttons down to the crotch. "Red legs" (actually Cincinnati's full name) and "Red socks" were among the nicknames given to the soldiers by some Northern (and some Southern) newspapers. MLBdotCom disagrees www.mlb.com/news/boston-red-sox-team-name-history#:~:text=According%20to%20research%20in%20%E2%80%9CRed,and%20has%20remained%20ever%20since. According to research in “Red Sox Century,” Taylor settled on grey uniforms trimmed in red with pale blue stockings on the road. But at home, the Red Sox would have white uniforms with bright red stockings. And Taylor came up with the name “Red Sox,” which took hold in 1908 and has remained ever since.
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Post by carmenfanzone on Jun 24, 2022 16:40:56 GMT -5
Could we at least agree that a team named the Red Sox should wear red sox and not uniforms that make them look like thy are the Ukrainian national softball team?
Signed,
Grumpy old guy
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 24, 2022 16:49:40 GMT -5
Please keep winning. I hate the MFY's more than any entity on the face of this earth, but I am only mildly annoyed at this point for the season they are having. A good dose of 21st Century Sox World Championship therapy has been helpful.
However, we need to keep winning in the event of an eventual collapse by the douchebags. 1978....Never forget.
Go Sox ! Let's keep this good streak going !
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jun 24, 2022 17:10:17 GMT -5
Ok... this thread has me busting a gut, but back on track everyone. Blinders on, focused on the Red Sox vs. er... the Guardians.
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Post by cdj on Jun 24, 2022 17:55:43 GMT -5
No bogaerts tonight
Duran Devers Martinez Verdugo Story Cordero Vazquez JBJ Arroyo (SS)
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Post by GyIantosca on Jun 24, 2022 18:15:29 GMT -5
Should’ve been the Spiders smdh hey CDJ, what about those flys that come in from the lake. one time I saw Jaba Chamberlain on his neck.
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Post by cdj on Jun 24, 2022 18:22:30 GMT -5
Nice little play out in CF by Duran
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Post by nomar on Jun 24, 2022 18:22:32 GMT -5
Nice grab Duran
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Post by cdj on Jun 24, 2022 18:27:35 GMT -5
Pivetta throwing a curve with about a mile of drop on it to end the inning
Gonzalez could only smile after swinging through it
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 24, 2022 18:34:01 GMT -5
6 game hit streak and T. Story is 6-22, how often does that happen
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Post by Guidas on Jun 24, 2022 18:42:42 GMT -5
Actually goes back to the Civil War. Many Northern troops wore standard-issue red "union suits" as their underwear. It was basically a onesie that went down to their ankles with a hatch on the butt and buttons down to the crotch. "Red legs" (actually Cincinnati's full name) and "Red socks" were among the nicknames given to the soldiers by some Northern (and some Southern) newspapers. MLBdotCom disagrees www.mlb.com/news/boston-red-sox-team-name-history#:~:text=According%20to%20research%20in%20%E2%80%9CRed,and%20has%20remained%20ever%20since. According to research in “Red Sox Century,” Taylor settled on grey uniforms trimmed in red with pale blue stockings on the road. But at home, the Red Sox would have white uniforms with bright red stockings. And Taylor came up with the name “Red Sox,” which took hold in 1908 and has remained ever since. Well then, I was misinformed.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 24, 2022 18:42:49 GMT -5
This is a bad vibes game
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 24, 2022 18:43:10 GMT -5
bad at bat.....must make contact
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Post by cdj on Jun 24, 2022 18:46:08 GMT -5
That hit him!
Atta boy Christian!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 24, 2022 18:47:30 GMT -5
take that. must have just barely hit him
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Post by notstarboard on Jun 24, 2022 18:48:06 GMT -5
.530 xBA on Duran's lineout. Womp womp.
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Post by manfred on Jun 24, 2022 18:48:21 GMT -5
Yeah and besides what the shit are you even GUARDING in Cleveland? Is there anything worth stealing there? Wouldn't it have gotten stolen already anyway? Well, the river caught on fire in the 1970s because it was so polluted. So there's that. And there are a few Jimi Hendrix guitars in the RRHOF, along with one of Elvis's. So, those are hills to die on. It is the birthplace of Rock’n’Roll, where Alan Freed started, got the kids dancing. It has also always been a huge rock town, a great market for bands and the starting place of some great ones. I have talked myself into a rock-themed name. Pretenders? Dead Boys? (Thinking locally)
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