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Post by bosox904 on Dec 14, 2022 9:33:32 GMT -5
I know getting a 4th for Xman is nothing exciting but the added slot value maybe they can really work this draft. And hopefully someone signs Eovaldi and they get another.
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Post by ramireja on Dec 14, 2022 11:30:24 GMT -5
I don't mean to be a debbie downer, but the extra slot value is roughly ~$400K at that position. The most likely scenario is that they select a player whose bonus is fairly close to that, and even in the case that they select a senior who signs there for say $100K, we're talking about a savings of $300K which isn't really a game changer.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Dec 14, 2022 11:50:31 GMT -5
I don't mean to be a debbie downer, but the extra slot value is roughly ~$400K at that position. The most likely scenario is that they select a player whose bonus is fairly close to that, and even in the case that they select a senior who signs there for say $100K, we're talking about a savings of $300K which isn't really a game changer. I don't think it's a game changer by any means but it's also definitely not nothing. Generating an extra ~$300-350K is enough to get another swing like an Alex Scherff, or a Nick Northcut, or even a Logan Allen with a little extra change thrown on there. Maybe I'm not inspiring a lot of confidence since those guys haven't exactly worked out, but since the draft is quite often a crap shoot, giving yourself more bites at the apple is generally going to be a good thing.
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Post by ramireja on Dec 14, 2022 13:05:49 GMT -5
Sure but my larger point is that the most likely scenario is that they select someone at that pick who is at or near slot. In the first 20 picks of the 5th round in this past years draft, only one player signed for less than $100K, and only two signed for less than $200K.
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Post by Guidas on Dec 14, 2022 14:59:07 GMT -5
I don't mean to be a debbie downer, but the extra slot value is roughly ~$400K at that position. The most likely scenario is that they select a player whose bonus is fairly close to that, and even in the case that they select a senior who signs there for say $100K, we're talking about a savings of $300K which isn't really a game changer. I don't think it's a game changer by any means but it's also definitely not nothing. Generating an extra ~$300-350K is enough to get another swing like an Alex Scherff, or a Nick Northcut, or even a Logan Allen with a little extra change thrown on there. M aybe I'm not inspiring a lot of confidence since those guys haven't exactly worked out, but since the draft is quite often a crap shoot, giving yourself more bites at the apple is generally going to be a good thing.It really depends on what part of the apple, though. 4th round picks have something like a 10% chance of even getting a cup of coffee in MLB. Even if that $300k-400k is placed on a later round, college-commit lottery ticket, high school guys have the lowest percentage of even seeing MLB in the first and second round (like 23% I think), so, sure, prospect breadth, but would you rather have wide but shallow breadth with a few potential GUYS, or an MLB star or near star in a position of need? I mean, I get building up the farm, but quantity does not equal quality, especially when you want to trade from your prospect depth. This team does not have a pig-in-the-python group of players like they had in 2015-17 or Balt has now. It's more like you have a guy coming up for a full season this year (Casas), maybe another next year and then another in 2025. But it's not like they're coming in 2s and 3s every year. The odds on lottery tickets or 4th round picks improving this situation 4 years down the road or ever is still extremely low.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Dec 14, 2022 20:50:12 GMT -5
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Post by dirtdog on Dec 16, 2022 16:40:10 GMT -5
14. Red Sox: Blake Mitchell, C, Sinton HS (Texas) High school catchers might be one of the riskier groups to choose from, and the Red Sox might recall not having huge success with Blake Swihart, but Mitchell is easily the best catcher in the class and Boston has taken a high school bat in the first round in each of the past four Drafts. www.mlb.com/news/mock-mlb-draft-2023
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Post by jaffinator on Dec 21, 2022 14:50:02 GMT -5
Lol in the MLB network video embedded in the mlb.com mock/top 100, Harold Reynolds gets Dylan Crews confused with Jacob Berry and has to be corrected.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Dec 21, 2022 14:59:19 GMT -5
Harold Reynolds incompetence on draft day is one of my favorite baseball related days of the year, even ahead of Bobby Bonilla day. If he can still have a job, then maybe I can ask out Taylor Swift after all. He sounds like he's legally not allowed to do any research until he arrives to the studio. Like he was on the way to do literally anything else and his phone alarm went off and he was reminded that he had to be there last minute.
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Post by britsox on Dec 21, 2022 15:19:27 GMT -5
That and everyone in the first and second round comps to an All Star or a Hall of Famer according to the various talking heads.
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Post by pasadenasox on Dec 21, 2022 17:16:36 GMT -5
But can he play shortstop?
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Post by johnsilver52 on Dec 21, 2022 17:33:13 GMT -5
Harold Reynolds incompetence on draft day is one of my favorite baseball related days of the year, even ahead of Bobby Bonilla day. If he can still have a job, then maybe I can ask out Taylor Swift after all. He sounds like he's legally not allowed to do any research until he arrives to the studio. Like he was on the way to do literally anything else and his phone alarm went off and he was reminded that he had to be there last minute. MLB should have dumped Reynolds years ago. He has no business being on air, a constant gaffe machine, without a clue. Obvious why he's on air and understand why, but why not bring in someone who has a clue? David Simms (Seattle PBP announcer) is one of the best currently and would check off every box believe MLB is looking for and not saying that to be insensitive.. He's also 1 of my favorite announcers. Does Reynolds chase away more fans than he brings in?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Dec 27, 2022 19:59:52 GMT -5
With the draft order set, I believe the Red Sox will pick: 1 (14) 2 (50) 3 (82) 4 (114) Comp B (132) Comp B (133) 5 (151) 6 (181) 7 (211) 8 (241) 9 (271) 10 (301) Note that MLB's list hasn't been updated yet for Rangers loss of 3rd pick and Red Sox 4th round comp pick: www.mlb.com/draft/2023/order
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Post by bosoxnation on Dec 31, 2022 14:51:20 GMT -5
With the draft order set, I believe the Red Sox will pick: 1 (14) 2 (50) 3 (82) 4 (114) Comp B (132) Comp B (133) 5 (151) 6 (181) 7 (211) 8 (241) 9 (271) 10 (301) Note that MLB's list hasn't been updated yet for Rangers loss of 3rd pick and Red Sox 4th round comp pick: www.mlb.com/draft/2023/order7 picks in the top 150 is very nice.
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Post by GyIantosca on Dec 31, 2022 16:35:14 GMT -5
The extra picks is nice but I also like the extra money. I like how they run the draftboard.
I read if they got under the limit we would of had better draft position which is unfortunate but Bloom promised the team there wasnt going to be a fire sale.
You know saying this outloud I wonder if he really wanted to do that in the first place. Because they were outclassed in the free agency. I understand they had a limit. They were not even in the same timezone with these other ballclubs.
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Post by pawtucketwalt on Dec 31, 2022 19:15:01 GMT -5
The Head Bean Counter in charge of salary cap levels should have caught that, besides HB,
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Dec 31, 2022 22:36:48 GMT -5
But can he play shortstop? And was he at least born in SoCal?
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Jan 3, 2023 11:42:01 GMT -5
But can he play shortstop? And was he at least born in SoCal? Of course there is a whole season of amateur play to go, but based on this projection, I'd rather see the Sox take a college arm. Waldrep, Lowder or Sanders could be there at 14. Sox could use a top of he rotation talent that could move through the system relatively fast.
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Post by jaffinator on Jan 4, 2023 11:15:52 GMT -5
And was he at least born in SoCal? Of course there is a whole season of amateur play to go, but based on this projection, I'd rather see the Sox take a college arm. Waldrep, Lowder or Sanders could be there at 14. Sox could use a top of he rotation talent that could move through the system relatively fast. I like Waldrep a lot, but I'm a little cool on the other two at the moment. With the obvious caveat that the 2023 season hasn't started yet, Waldrep has shown off a prime fastball and I don't feel like we've seen the same from Lowder or Sanders quite yet. Lowder has the more advanced command and control, and there might be potentially a lot to like with Sanders frame and the potential to squeeze more out of it, but right now Waldrep looks best. Excited to see him pitch an SEC schedule this season.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 2, 2023 10:55:16 GMT -5
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Post by pedroelgrande on Feb 5, 2023 23:52:52 GMT -5
This guy gonna be moving up boards soon.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Feb 6, 2023 0:12:30 GMT -5
Is anyone we didn't sign in '21 eligible for this year's draft?
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Post by Coreno on Feb 6, 2023 0:20:37 GMT -5
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Feb 6, 2023 7:35:45 GMT -5
But can he play shortstop? He's not from California, so it doesn't matter. It seems pretty obvious that the easiest way to get high-level prospects to bring up in bunches is for the major league team to be terrible for an extended period of time.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 6, 2023 7:47:19 GMT -5
Is anyone we didn't sign in '21 eligible for this year's draft? Probably not because the high schoolers would've been the 2020 kids when the draft was cut to 5 rounds.
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