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Post by cdj on Aug 19, 2022 18:54:06 GMT -5
Xander WPA is negative, Refsnyder’s is positive Xander has a lot of WAR tied up in defense this year. Good on him for improving his defense, it’s hard to imagine it’s sustainable as he gets into his 30’s. And he’s not driving the ball. Or driving in runs. I mean what were his last two rbi’s? Without looking I think it’s a groundout and a solo home run in the 9th of a blowout. I just want him to get a meaningful hit, that’s all! I feel like I’m taking crazy pills, it’s not crazy to ask a guy making his money to drive in a run, right? Xander has a wrc+ of 130 so really if WPA is gonna claim refsnyder is more valuable then Xander I'll throw that metric right in the garbage. However I do get that it's frustrating how little rbi he has considering his spot in the lineup. I would say he should not be batting 3rd and instead should be 2nd or leadoff like I said. He's a damn good hitter especially for a SS though. Refsnyder’s wRC+ is 151 so now what? He gets hits when he needs to, Xander doesn’t. That’s why there is a discrepancy in WPA Now whether clutch is real or not is another question. And WPA isn’t predictive. So Xander could get a bases loaded double later tonight. But I just want something out of him.
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Post by station13 on Aug 19, 2022 18:55:20 GMT -5
JDM benched. You saw that coming.
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Post by station13 on Aug 19, 2022 18:56:43 GMT -5
Xander WPA is negative, Refsnyder’s is positive Xander has a lot of WAR tied up in defense this year. Good on him for improving his defense, it’s hard to imagine it’s sustainable as he gets into his 30’s. And he’s not driving the ball. Or driving in runs. I mean what were his last two rbi’s? Without looking I think it’s a groundout and a solo home run in the 9th of a blowout. I just want him to get a meaningful hit, that’s all! I feel like I’m taking crazy pills, it’s not crazy to ask a guy making his money to drive in a run, right? Xander has a wrc+ of 130 so really if WPA is gonna claim refsnyder is more valuable then Xander I'll throw that metric right in the garbage. However I do get that it's frustrating how little rbi he has considering his spot in the lineup. I would say he should not be batting 3rd and instead should be 2nd or leadoff like I said. He's a damn good hitter especially for a SS though. hitting 1-2 is where he should have the last 2 months. MAybe he doesn't feel comfortable up there.
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 19, 2022 18:57:20 GMT -5
Xander has a wrc+ of 130 so really if WPA is gonna claim refsnyder is more valuable then Xander I'll throw that metric right in the garbage. However I do get that it's frustrating how little rbi he has considering his spot in the lineup. I would say he should not be batting 3rd and instead should be 2nd or leadoff like I said. He's a damn good hitter especially for a SS though. Refsnyder’s wRC+ is 151 so now what? He gets hits when he needs to, Xander doesn’t. That’s why there is a discrepancy in WPA Now whether clutch is real or not is another question. And WPA isn’t predictive. So Xander could get a bases loaded double later tonight. But I just want something out of him. Xander has a career 32.6 bWAR refsnyder has a career -.5 bWAR but yes by all means let's play refsnyder at ss from here on out and bench Xander since he apparently stinks.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 19, 2022 18:58:04 GMT -5
why Mazz ?
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Post by cdj on Aug 19, 2022 19:00:48 GMT -5
Important single by Xander, without it no run! Tysm Xander!
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Post by cdj on Aug 19, 2022 19:01:10 GMT -5
Refsnyder’s wRC+ is 151 so now what? He gets hits when he needs to, Xander doesn’t. That’s why there is a discrepancy in WPA Now whether clutch is real or not is another question. And WPA isn’t predictive. So Xander could get a bases loaded double later tonight. But I just want something out of him. Xander has a career 32.6 bWAR refsnyder has a career -.5 bWAR but yes by all means let's play refsnyder at ss from here on out and bench Xander since he apparently stinks. Yeah because that’s what was said lol
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Post by manfred on Aug 19, 2022 19:01:30 GMT -5
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 19, 2022 19:03:11 GMT -5
Xander has a career 32.6 bWAR refsnyder has a career -.5 bWAR but yes by all means let's play refsnyder at ss from here on out and bench Xander since he apparently stinks. Yeah because that’s what was said lol Well you did say "he sucks when it matters" and then threw in refsnyder but I suppose maybe I'm getting combative and I don't want to be so ill just end this little back and forth with a hope there's no hard feeling. and a go sox!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 19, 2022 19:03:59 GMT -5
Hosmer with the rope !
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Post by cdj on Aug 19, 2022 19:05:27 GMT -5
Yeah because that’s what was said lol Well you did say "he sucks when it matters" and then threw in refsnyder but I suppose maybe I'm getting combative and I don't want to be so ill just end this little back and forth with a hope there's no hard feeling. and a go sox! None at all, hopefully Refsnyder ups his WPA here
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Post by taiwansox on Aug 19, 2022 19:08:37 GMT -5
Refsnyder on fire
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Post by cdj on Aug 19, 2022 19:08:47 GMT -5
Love that guy
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Post by manfred on Aug 19, 2022 19:09:00 GMT -5
Ok, I’m sold on RR. Great at bats.
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 19, 2022 19:09:46 GMT -5
Man, Hosmer almost got thrown out at third
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 19, 2022 19:09:47 GMT -5
Well you did say "he sucks when it matters" and then threw in refsnyder but I suppose maybe I'm getting combative and I don't want to be so ill just end this little back and forth with a hope there's no hard feeling. and a go sox! None at all, hopefully Refsnyder ups his WPA here Hahaha wow too funny Robby refsnyder drives in xandy. Love it.
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Post by taiwansox on Aug 19, 2022 19:12:04 GMT -5
Man, Hosmer almost got thrown out at third Vazquez would user been out haha
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 19, 2022 19:12:10 GMT -5
yes. to celebrate the lead, and I hope you guys don't mind, i am honna rock the ganj.
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Post by incandenza on Aug 19, 2022 19:16:37 GMT -5
Would it kill him to get one (1) clutch hit if he’s making 20 mill? Refsnyder has impacted winning with his bat more than Xander has this season. I mean they traded his pal, I get it, can he get his head out of his ass though? I know I said I wouldn't harp on it and I don't wanna get in a back and forth and derail the thread but really refsnyder with his .6 WAR has impacted winning with his bat more than a guy with 3.9 WAR? I don't see that being the case and I find that an asinine statement.. Well, Bogaerts has a WPA of 0.14 and Refsnyder has a WPA of 0.40. So there's a case to be made. But it's also questionable how predictive those WPA stats are.
Bogaerts is working on his third season in a row of having relatively low WPA and clutch stats, though.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 19, 2022 19:19:05 GMT -5
tough start for our boy Kutter.
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Post by benzinger on Aug 19, 2022 19:20:17 GMT -5
Would it kill him to get one (1) clutch hit if he’s making 20 mill? Refsnyder has impacted winning with his bat more than Xander has this season. I mean they traded his pal, I get it, can he get his head out of his ass though? I know I said I wouldn't harp on it and I don't wanna get in a back and forth and derail the thread but really refsnyder with his .6 WAR has impacted winning with his bat more than a guy with 3.9 WAR? I don't see that being the case and I find that an asinine statement.. It’s the 49 RBI’s this season. Xander has hit 3rd all year, but he hasn’t delivered. I don’t care what WAR says. That’s probably a function of overrating his defense(which has been fine). His offensive production has just been lacking. Story has 58 RBI’s and he’s barely played.
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 19, 2022 19:20:46 GMT -5
That wasn't even a bad pitch. Keep throwing the fastball there please
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Post by Guidas on Aug 19, 2022 19:20:59 GMT -5
This,pitching staff just can’t help themselves.
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Post by cdj on Aug 19, 2022 19:21:12 GMT -5
Kutter can miss bats but when he doesn’t it can get kinda ugly. FIRM contact
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Post by incandenza on Aug 19, 2022 19:22:43 GMT -5
One thing I've noticed about Pham is that he is not great at catching baseballs.
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