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Post by incandenza on Sept 1, 2022 12:36:56 GMT -5
Here's Rob Refsnyder explaining why he's a different hitter this year. Long story short, he took the Benintendi path of trying to retool his swing to hit for more power and it didn't work. Now he's re-retooled his approach.
He should be at least a fourth outfielder next season, and I wouldn't hate him as a semi-platooning starter. (I wouldn't have hated them doing that with him and JBJ but they never seemed to fully lean into that, maybe because of the time he lost to injury.)
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Post by crossedsabres8 on Sept 6, 2022 15:42:24 GMT -5
With Kiké now back in the fold for 2023, I actually am warming up to the idea of going after Kiermaier for another outfielder spot. A rough platoon of Refsnyder and Kiermaier is probably pretty good, and Kiermaier could also play a legitimate centerfield if Kiké was injured or needed elsewhere on the field. Plus the benefit of not having Kiermaier play against us (he always seems to kill the Sox).
This is pending on health and I'd still rather get Nimmo, but if the choice was between Nimmo and Xander I'd obviously rather go for Xander.
I'd imagine this idea would be wildly unpopular, essentially going three straight years without a high level player on the outfield. And it's not solving anything for 2024, assuming a 1 year deal. But if the infield next year is Casas, Story, Xander, and Devers, it wouldn't feel as essential to have the big bats in the outfield. If healthy that would still be better than this year.
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Post by julyanmorley on Sept 6, 2022 16:52:52 GMT -5
Chaim loves Keirmaier, so I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with him. Coming off hip labrum surgery and being iffy to be ready on opening day, I think he's a little light to be counted on as a starting OF. They got a lot of money they need to spend.
If they don't sign a DH, they could have KK/Ref as 4th and 5th OFs and find everyone lots of ABs.
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Post by shagworthy on Sept 6, 2022 16:53:34 GMT -5
Pham is interesting. A 1ish fWAR player who is in decline. Prob a platoon player vs. LHP-only, but his good numbers this year vs. LHP .381 OBP, .887 OPS., 187. ISO, are hyperinflated by an unsustainable.380 BABIP. The year before it was substantially less at .241 as was his ISO, .137, .351 OBP and .689. OPS. Heâs having a plus year, but still only a 0.9 fWAR. Heâs in decline and going to be 35. May best to walk away if he wants more than $4-5M and more than a year. I have been pleasantly surprised by Pham, his reputation proceeded him, but heâs been nothing but professional in a Sox uniform. If they can keep him on a reasonable deal I would be ok with it, but if heâs a FA casualty I wouldnât be butthurt either. The problem the Sox will face this offseason is barring a trade materializing there just isnât much out there on the FA wire. Thereâs not even a Renfroe type. Keirmier has spirit. but you might as well invite JBJ back with an invitation to ST, youâd get the same results ultimately. Judge is going to get severely overpaid, and with his health track record and size, it will be a disaster year 1. After that there is Nimmo, who is interchangeable with Kiké war wise. Not much to get excited about until the rumor mill fires up.
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Post by manfred on Sept 7, 2022 23:47:54 GMT -5
With Kiké now back in the fold for 2023, I actually am warming up to the idea of going after Kiermaier for another outfielder spot. A rough platoon of Refsnyder and Kiermaier is probably pretty good, and Kiermaier could also play a legitimate centerfield if Kiké was injured or needed elsewhere on the field. Plus the benefit of not having Kiermaier play against us (he always seems to kill the Sox). This is pending on health and I'd still rather get Nimmo, but if the choice was between Nimmo and Xander I'd obviously rather go for Xander. I'd imagine this idea would be wildly unpopular, essentially going three straight years without a high level player on the outfield. And it's not solving anything for 2024, assuming a 1 year deal. But if the infield next year is Casas, Story, Xander, and Devers, it wouldn't feel as essential to have the big bats in the outfield. If healthy that would still be better than this year. Wildly unpopular. Casas will be a rookie. Catcher will be a defense position. They cannot afford to assume X, Devers, and Story can overcome an orherwise potentially weak lineup. Getting a legit bat in the 3rd OF slot is a must.
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Post by bosoxnation on Sept 8, 2022 0:16:35 GMT -5
With Kiké now back in the fold for 2023, I actually am warming up to the idea of going after Kiermaier for another outfielder spot. A rough platoon of Refsnyder and Kiermaier is probably pretty good, and Kiermaier could also play a legitimate centerfield if Kiké was injured or needed elsewhere on the field. Plus the benefit of not having Kiermaier play against us (he always seems to kill the Sox). This is pending on health and I'd still rather get Nimmo, but if the choice was between Nimmo and Xander I'd obviously rather go for Xander. I'd imagine this idea would be wildly unpopular, essentially going three straight years without a high level player on the outfield. And it's not solving anything for 2024, assuming a 1 year deal. But if the infield next year is Casas, Story, Xander, and Devers, it wouldn't feel as essential to have the big bats in the outfield. If healthy that would still be better than this year. Wildly unpopular. Casas will be a rookie. Catcher will be a defense position. They cannot afford to assume X, Devers, and Story can overcome an orherwise potentially weak lineup. Getting a legit bat in the 3rd OF slot is a must. Itâs almost like youâre forgetting weâre like 1st in hits, doubles. Top 5 in total bases. Top 5 in BA. Top 5 in slugging. The pitching has been so bad us fans havenât realized how good our offense is. Also the home run problem. I think Bloom is probably thinking we run out there with this same offense and fix our pitching weâre legit. Kiké Verdugo X Devers Story Casas Wong/McGuire Hosmer Duran/Refsnyder Thatâs a solid lineup. Arroyo as the backup INF.
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Post by soxfannj on Sept 8, 2022 6:43:05 GMT -5
How about Michael Conforto as a potential outfield option?
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Sept 8, 2022 6:53:29 GMT -5
How about Michael Conforto as a potential outfield option? Chaim loves him some injured players. I can see that.
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Post by mobaz on Sept 8, 2022 7:17:12 GMT -5
How about Michael Conforto as a potential outfield option? Chaim loves him some injured players. I can see that. Not a bad plan, especially if he's going for a 1 year show-me deal; he'd have plenty of AB available and the shining lights of Boston. I'd feel better about it if we felt we had someone on the farm who could challenge if Conforto/Hernandez are injured or ineffective. Sorry, not counting Duran or Franchy. Otherwise we're teetering toward an Arroyo in RF situation. (At least play him in left and move Verdugo, Cora!!) I keep Ref no matter what, I think. Cheap and effective.
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Post by ematz1423 on Sept 8, 2022 7:28:41 GMT -5
Wildly unpopular. Casas will be a rookie. Catcher will be a defense position. They cannot afford to assume X, Devers, and Story can overcome an orherwise potentially weak lineup. Getting a legit bat in the 3rd OF slot is a must. Itâs almost like youâre forgetting weâre like 1st in hits, doubles. Top 5 in total bases. Top 5 in BA. Top 5 in slugging. The pitching has been so bad us fans havenât realized how good our offense is. Also the home run problem. I think Bloom is probably thinking we run out there with this same offense and fix our pitching weâre legit. Kiké Verdugo X Devers Story Casas Wong/McGuire Hosmer Duran/Refsnyder Thatâs a solid lineup. Arroyo as the backup INF. While I will agree that the hitting hasn't been the big problem vs the pitching which needs the most work. I don't like that line-up you drew up there. Duran has never proven anything with the bat and struggles defensively. Refsnyder has a negative career WAR, I'm not banking on this season from him being some sort of breakout. He deserves a spot on the team but not as a guy to be counted on. Casas should be the everyday 1st baseman, so Hosmer at DH is not the route to go. He's barely a league average hitter. That lineup you outline badly needs another COF and/or a DH who can be above average which isn't Hosmer. Also I don't like Hernandez leading off, so the most natural fit to fill both the COF and leadoff spot would be Brandon Nimmo. I'll agree that the foundation of that lineup should be alright with Verdugo, X/other SS acquisition, Rafi, Story, and I'm bullish that Casas can provide solid enough production to be counted on. Still that's just 5 counting Casas who even though I'm bullish on, is a rookie so he's going to take his lumps. Hernandez is a good enough 7-9 hitter with his defense he'll be valuable, same with Wong/McGuire platoon at C. I think it best to save the money at C unless maybe Contreras falls into their laps.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Sept 8, 2022 7:43:44 GMT -5
Bradon Nimmo just makes too much sense, it also gives you a guy who can play both CF/RF which is important if Kiké goes down. Having 3 left-fielders play in the outfield (yeah Verdugo is ok in right) has left me with PTSD. Doesn't have to be Nimmo, but having a good CF/RF guy who can also add value in your lineup lengthens this lineup and thats' important. Devers can't do it all.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Sept 8, 2022 8:26:05 GMT -5
Bradon Nimmo just makes too much sense, it also gives you a guy who can play both CF/RF which is important if Kiké goes down. Having 3 left-fielders play in the outfield (yeah Verdugo is ok in right) has left me with PTSD. Doesn't have to be Nimmo, but having a good CF/RF guy who can also add value in your lineup lengthens this lineup and thats' important. Devers can't do it all. Can't say I'm overally enthralled with the idea of an outfield that has a cap of around 15 homeruns per position. I'd have been interested in Nimmo had Kiké left, but giving up a draft pick, and not adding some pop to this lineup doesn't seem overly helpful.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Sept 8, 2022 8:35:35 GMT -5
Bradon Nimmo just makes too much sense, it also gives you a guy who can play both CF/RF which is important if Kiké goes down. Having 3 left-fielders play in the outfield (yeah Verdugo is ok in right) has left me with PTSD. Doesn't have to be Nimmo, but having a good CF/RF guy who can also add value in your lineup lengthens this lineup and thats' important. Devers can't do it all. Can't say I'm overally enthralled with the idea of an outfield that has a cap of around 15 homeruns per position. I'd have been interested in Nimmo had Kiké left, but giving up a draft pick, and not adding some pop to this lineup doesn't seem overly helpful. That's fair, but who is your other corner outfielder outside of Verdugo who's going to add pop to this lineup?
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Sept 8, 2022 8:40:02 GMT -5
Can't say I'm overally enthralled with the idea of an outfield that has a cap of around 15 homeruns per position. I'd have been interested in Nimmo had Kiké left, but giving up a draft pick, and not adding some pop to this lineup doesn't seem overly helpful. That's fair, but who is your other corner outfielder outside of Verdugo who's going to add pop to this lineup? I'd be intrigued by Haniger splitting his time between left and DH
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Post by manfred on Sept 8, 2022 8:43:04 GMT -5
Wildly unpopular. Casas will be a rookie. Catcher will be a defense position. They cannot afford to assume X, Devers, and Story can overcome an orherwise potentially weak lineup. Getting a legit bat in the 3rd OF slot is a must. Itâs almost like youâre forgetting weâre like 1st in hits, doubles. Top 5 in total bases. Top 5 in BA. Top 5 in slugging. The pitching has been so bad us fans havenât realized how good our offense is. Also the home run problem. I think Bloom is probably thinking we run out there with this same offense and fix our pitching weâre legit. Kiké Verdugo X Devers Story Casas Wong/McGuire Hosmer Duran/Refsnyder Thatâs a solid lineup. Arroyo as the backup INF. We’ve spent two years with people grousing about Kiké leading off, the black hole at the bottom… and you want to do it again. I like Duran and Casas, but that is asking a lot of them. I have no expectation of production from those catchers. So basically 5-9 is a crapshoot. Again. And… why? The team has tons of money to spend… why cheap out? You would have them add… nothing? I mean, I guess if this is coupled with signing de Grom, Verlander, and Scherzer or something it might nake sense.
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Post by ematz1423 on Sept 8, 2022 8:53:37 GMT -5
Itâs almost like youâre forgetting weâre like 1st in hits, doubles. Top 5 in total bases. Top 5 in BA. Top 5 in slugging. The pitching has been so bad us fans havenât realized how good our offense is. Also the home run problem. I think Bloom is probably thinking we run out there with this same offense and fix our pitching weâre legit. Kiké Verdugo X Devers Story Casas Wong/McGuire Hosmer Duran/Refsnyder Thatâs a solid lineup. Arroyo as the backup INF. We’ve spent two years with people grousing about Kiké leading off, the black hole at the bottom… and you want to do it again. I like Duran and Casas, but that is asking a lot of them. I have no expectation of production from those catchers. So basically 5-9 is a crapshoot. Again. And… why? The team has tons of money to spend… why cheap out? You would have them add… nothing? I mean, I guess if this is coupled with signing de Grom, Verlander, and Scherzer or something it might nake sense. My thoughts are rather similar to yours here. I think overall the catchers can give them something in line with league average production for a C which isn't a high bar to reach. Sure I'd like to shoot higher but whatever there, I'll take league average-ish. I'm more bullish on Casas than you it sounds but I'd rather they sign a better leadoff hitter/OF and a DH who can hit 6 so that we're looking more like Casas-Hernandez-Wong/McGuire 9. Obviously we won't get my absolute ideal offseason additions for the line-up but ideally: OF acquisition Verdugo X Rafi Story DH acquisition Casas Hernandez Catcher Maybe instead of the OFer being the lead-off you get more of a Haniger type that can bat 6, in that case you slide Verdugo to leadoff, X to 2nd and so on. I actually may prefer that since I think X is more of a 2 hitter.
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Post by manfred on Sept 8, 2022 9:10:56 GMT -5
We’ve spent two years with people grousing about Kiké leading off, the black hole at the bottom… and you want to do it again. I like Duran and Casas, but that is asking a lot of them. I have no expectation of production from those catchers. So basically 5-9 is a crapshoot. Again. And… why? The team has tons of money to spend… why cheap out? You would have them add… nothing? I mean, I guess if this is coupled with signing de Grom, Verlander, and Scherzer or something it might nake sense. My thoughts are rather similar to yours here. I think overall the catchers can give them something in line with league average production for a C which isn't a high bar to reach. Sure I'd like to shoot higher but whatever there, I'll take league average-ish. I'm more bullish on Casas than you it sounds but I'd rather they sign a better leadoff hitter/OF and a DH who can hit 6 so that we're looking more like Casas-Hernandez-Wong/McGuire 9. Obviously we won't get my absolute ideal offseason additions for the line-up but ideally: OF acquisition Verdugo X Rafi Story DH acquisition Casas Hernandez Catcher Maybe instead of the OFer being the lead-off you get more of a Haniger type that can bat 6, in that case you slide Verdugo to leadoff, X to 2nd and so on. I actually may prefer that since I think X is more of a 2 hitter. Well.. just to be clear… I am hopeful on Casas. I believe in him. But I just never *assume* rookies will take care of a problem, because the range of possible outcomes is so dramatic.
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Post by ematz1423 on Sept 8, 2022 9:19:30 GMT -5
My thoughts are rather similar to yours here. I think overall the catchers can give them something in line with league average production for a C which isn't a high bar to reach. Sure I'd like to shoot higher but whatever there, I'll take league average-ish. I'm more bullish on Casas than you it sounds but I'd rather they sign a better leadoff hitter/OF and a DH who can hit 6 so that we're looking more like Casas-Hernandez-Wong/McGuire 9. Obviously we won't get my absolute ideal offseason additions for the line-up but ideally: OF acquisition Verdugo X Rafi Story DH acquisition Casas Hernandez Catcher Maybe instead of the OFer being the lead-off you get more of a Haniger type that can bat 6, in that case you slide Verdugo to leadoff, X to 2nd and so on. I actually may prefer that since I think X is more of a 2 hitter. Well.. just to be clear… I am hopeful on Casas. I believe in him. But I just never *assume* rookies will take care of a problem, because the range of possible outcomes is so dramatic. That's fair and a good way to look at it. That's why I think it smart to keep Hosmer around until at least June or so of next year in case Casas does fall on his face so to speak.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 8, 2022 12:53:22 GMT -5
I believe we can safely assume the following. That doesn't mean things are certain, but if they don't play out this way, it will be unexpected.: To be determined, with in-house options: C) Last man on bench: Bobby Dalbec, Hosmer; longshots Cordero, Jarren Duran Jumping to the end because of new thoughts about the fates of the Gang of Four Enigmas / Disappointments. I'm assuming here that Arroyo is 3rd on the depth chart for 1B and you need a guy ahead of him.
Hosmer
Given Kiké's usefulness in the infield, you really want five guys on the roster who can play the outfield. And you don't have that if you go with Hosmer.
Furthermore, how much PT would a guy who backs up only 1B and DH get next year? Backup 1B guys, unless they're in a strict platoon, almost always double as a backup for either OF or 3B.
Hosmer's injury was unfortunate. He had a small but real chance of establishing himself as next year's DH, if he could recover the swing that made him the God of opposite field hitting before 2020, when he changed it to get more pull power and ended up with a wash. Best move now is to trade him to a rebuilding team that has a shot at contending (where the O's and White Sox were last winter) that has a hitter-favorable LF, preferably one that has misjudged their prospect talent. If that doesn't exist (which seems likely), any team that wants an OK 1B at essentially no cost would work. A small-market contender that has nothing at 1B would be a great fit.
Duran
His trade value is at a low point, and I'm including his apparent need for an attitude adjustment in that. So I'd keep him in Worcester for another year. I'd end the regular-OF experiment and see what he looks like at 2B in a potential bench role, but I'd mostly have him DH and see how he fares there. His AAA numbers project to much better MLB numbers that he's put up, and it's possible that worrying about failing in both aspects of the game, and pressing as a result, is part of that. He's probably a guy who struggles disproportionately against good pitching and feasts against bad pitching, so he probably won't reach his ML equivalents, but he should be considerably closer to them than he's shown. That profile describes lots of guys, including Stanton, A-Rod, and J.D. Drew.
Cordero
Franchy's tools are elite, but next to him Jackie Bradley, Jr. looks like a model of consistency. I'm convinced he needs to go to a non-contending team, a no-pressure situation where they can spend a year or two trying to build him a toolbox. But I like the idea of keeping him through most or all of his last option year and have him working at LF and DH. Have Duran at DH and Franchy in LF for a couple of weeks at a time and then do Franchy DH / Duran 2B for a week. With luck, there will be two or more teams that like his upside enough to give you genuinely interesting talent in return.
Note that he and Duran give you very good organizational depth for 2023, so it's not like they're laboring in AAA strictly to build trade value.
Dalbec
Dalbec fits the positional bill perfectly; he has the tools to play RF, let alone LF where they've had him take some reps. However ...
Given his streakiness, is there any reason, however microscopic, to believe that he can hit coming off the bench?
And there's no question that he can be a starting 3B, where he would have more value than he would as a bench player for us. I think that most teams are aware that he hit .300 / .381 / .723 in his last 147 PA last year (starting August 6). There have to be some teams that are intrigued by his evident upside, and I'd like to see him get some MLB time before the season is over. He may be dealt this winter, next ST, or later in the year, but I think that's the right thing to do for all parties.
Bonus: Pham
I like him a lot. But there's no place on the roster for him. In the last 4 years he's played 91 innings in CF, 7 in RF, and 3,193 in LF. And we have an excellent left fielder who has made better contact against LHP each year with the team and therefore doesn't need to be platooned, and a terrific platoon OFer in Refsnyder.
Conclusion
We should be considering backup 1B / OF, RHB, as another need.
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Post by incandenza on Sept 8, 2022 13:32:48 GMT -5
On Dalbec: despite this being a subpar season for him, he's still managed a 119 wRC+ against lefties, and 129 for his career. Why not just run with a Dalbec/Casas platoon at 1B to start the season? Trade Hosmer for either a marginal prospect or include a prospect to get back something useful for the major league roster. If Dalbec can rebound somewhat next year then they could trade him next offseason when his value might be a bit higher. And if by some chance he returns to his late-2021 form they can get him ABs at DH.
It's not ideal to use a roster spot on the short end of a 1B platoon, but his ability to back up Devers at 3B mitigates that somewhat, and all the more so if he can fill in at corner OF.
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Post by greenmonster on Sept 8, 2022 13:40:28 GMT -5
On Dalbec: despite this being a subpar season for him, he's still managed a 119 wRC+ against lefties, and 129 for his career. Why not just run with a Dalbec/Casas platoon at 1B to start the season? Trade Hosmer for either a marginal prospect or include a prospect to get back something useful for the major league roster. If Dalbec can rebound somewhat next year then they could trade him next offseason when his value might be a bit higher. And if by some chance he returns to his late-2021 form they can get him ABs at DH. It's not ideal to use a roster spot on the short end of a 1B platoon, but his ability to back up Devers at 3B mitigates that somewhat, and all the more so if he can fill in at corner OF. Plus he can play SS
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 8, 2022 14:15:02 GMT -5
Bradon Nimmo just makes too much sense, it also gives you a guy who can play both CF/RF which is important if Kiké goes down. Having 3 left-fielders play in the outfield (yeah Verdugo is ok in right) has left me with PTSD. Doesn't have to be Nimmo, but having a good CF/RF guy who can also add value in your lineup lengthens this lineup and thats' important. Devers can't do it all. Brandon Nimmo? [Insert obvious reasons here.]
But wait, there's more.
Over the last 3 seasons, 103 outfielders have amassed 650 or more PA.
Where does Nimmo rank in Oppo%
How about 4th?
What if we eliminate players who have never had a single season with a wRC+ above 100?
First. In fact, he's been the best left-handed hitter in MLB who is also very oppo-field heavy (although Nathan Lowe may be about to pass him).
He'd be moving from a park that ranks 15th in wOBA-xwOBA for balls hit in the air to LF by visiting LHB (last 3 years), with .011, to the park that ranks first with .202. (Minutemaid is next with .117).
When compared to all OFer's he's actually rather better as a pull hitter, but he's still above average going the other way, and would thus be a great for for the ballpark. Keep in mind that when opposing pitchers know they want to avoid a LHB going the other way, it narrows done how they can pitch to him. The total effect is more than you'd project from superimposing his batted balls on Fenway.
If I'm Bloom, the first thing I do when free agency opens is text Fred Lynn's home and road splits with the Sox to Nimmo's agent. I believe that players will jump at the opportunity to play in a park that will make them a star.
Opening day batting order:
Bogaerts Verdugo (eventually Nimmo or Casas) Story Devers Jose Abreu, DH
Nimmo / TBD Hernandez Catcher Casas / TBD
Story hits 3 because he seems to benefit from protection, while Abreu is the opposite and furthermore, hits relatively poorly from the 7th inning on and hence is not the guy you're itching to get one more bat. But Guaranteed Rate field was not a good fit for him and he'd be huge for us hitting 5th.
It won't be one of those lineups that has a terrifying stretch, but it would be insanely deep ... if Casas is as good as we hope, eventually either Doogie or Nimmo is hitting 9th.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 8, 2022 14:21:45 GMT -5
On Dalbec: despite this being a subpar season for him, he's still managed a 119 wRC+ against lefties, and 129 for his career. Why not just run with a Dalbec/Casas platoon at 1B to start the season? Trade Hosmer for either a marginal prospect or include a prospect to get back something useful for the major league roster. If Dalbec can rebound somewhat next year then they could trade him next offseason when his value might be a bit higher. And if by some chance he returns to his late-2021 form they can get him ABs at DH. It's not ideal to use a roster spot on the short end of a 1B platoon, but his ability to back up Devers at 3B mitigates that somewhat, and all the more so if he can fill in at corner OF. You're really trying to make me look up how Dalbec has hit LHP after a day off, aren't you?
If there's not a significant penalty from that -- if in fact he can hit lefties coming off the bench -- than this is an obvious choice for the reasons you state.
And I just figured out how I can use Stacast to very easily get his splits vs. LHP by days off.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Sept 8, 2022 14:55:47 GMT -5
For a few years now I’ve actually loved the ideal of Bogaerts leading off…but I’d be very surprised (pleasantly) if Cora ever does that on the reg.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 8, 2022 15:33:26 GMT -5
On Dalbec: despite this being a subpar season for him, he's still managed a 119 wRC+ against lefties, and 129 for his career. Why not just run with a Dalbec/Casas platoon at 1B to start the season? Trade Hosmer for either a marginal prospect or include a prospect to get back something useful for the major league roster. If Dalbec can rebound somewhat next year then they could trade him next offseason when his value might be a bit higher. And if by some chance he returns to his late-2021 form they can get him ABs at DH. It's not ideal to use a roster spot on the short end of a 1B platoon, but his ability to back up Devers at 3B mitigates that somewhat, and all the more so if he can fill in at corner OF. I want Casas getting at-bats against LHP. He's not getting better against them if you don't let him hit against them. I wouldn't hate Dalbec learning some OF and being a 4-corners backup/occasional DH.
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