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4/19-4/21 Red Sox vs. Royals Series Thread
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Post by bluechip on Apr 20, 2013 16:50:02 GMT -5
Webster being called up to pitch tomorrow night's game. That will be fun to watch.
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Post by jrffam05 on Apr 20, 2013 18:24:39 GMT -5
Well look who has the best record in the al
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Post by station13 on Apr 20, 2013 20:23:50 GMT -5
Is tomorrow night game going to be broadcast?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 20, 2013 20:35:07 GMT -5
Is tomorrow night game going to be broadcast? NESN
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Post by okin15 on Apr 20, 2013 21:36:56 GMT -5
Would make more sense to me if he had pitched today in Pawtucket, and then went on Thursday in Boston, but what do I know.
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Post by mredsox89 on Apr 20, 2013 22:46:33 GMT -5
Would make more sense to me if he had pitched today in Pawtucket, and then went on Thursday in Boston, but what do I know. I would imagine the Sox are using the new rule for adding a 26th man on a day of a double header So if they pitch him tomorrow, they don't have to remove someone from their 25 man roster
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Apr 21, 2013 9:09:26 GMT -5
Today's line-up is out. Flyin Hawaiian getting a rest.
Ellsbury - CF Nava - RF Pedroia - 2B Ortiz - DH Napoli - 1B Salty - C WMB - 3B Drew - SS Gomes - LF
Koufax..err Dempster on the hill. 25 k's in 17 innings. Who had his k rate at 13.2 in the pool?
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Post by amfox1 on Apr 21, 2013 9:15:06 GMT -5
I would guess Salty, Ortiz and WMB/Drew will get rest in the 2nd game and Ross, Carp and Ciriaco will get starts.
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Post by jmei on Apr 21, 2013 9:27:50 GMT -5
I really wish the roster had a 5th outfielder that I was confident in backing up CF and RF. Nava has improved his defense quite a bit, but still lacks the range to properly cover RF, especially in Fenway. Carp has looked great so far, but they're struggling to find at-bats for him, especially with Nava killing it at the plate, and I can't help but think that Sweeney would be a better fit for the roster. They could have had both Sweeney and Carp if they hadn't called up Bradley, but the ship has obviously sailed on that one.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 21, 2013 10:13:08 GMT -5
I really wish the roster had a 5th outfielder that I was confident in backing up CF and RF. Nava has improved his defense quite a bit, but still lacks the range to properly cover RF, especially in Fenway. Carp has looked great so far, but they're struggling to find at-bats for him, especially with Nava killing it at the plate, and I can't help but think that Sweeney would be a better fit for the roster. They could have had both Sweeney and Carp if they hadn't called up Bradley, but the ship has obviously sailed on that one. I wouldn't mind letting Mike Napoli see one less right handed starter a week.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Apr 21, 2013 10:52:50 GMT -5
I really wish the roster had a 5th outfielder that I was confident in backing up CF and RF. Nava has improved his defense quite a bit, but still lacks the range to properly cover RF, especially in Fenway. Carp has looked great so far, but they're struggling to find at-bats for him, especially with Nava killing it at the plate, and I can't help but think that Sweeney would be a better fit for the roster. They could have had both Sweeney and Carp if they hadn't called up Bradley, but the ship has obviously sailed on that one. I wouldn't mind letting Mike Napoli see one less right handed starter a week. You might want to check his splits so far this year. 848 ops vs rightes with both homers and all 17 rbi. Against lefties his OPS is .467 with no RBI. Not too much of a difference career wise either. 845 OPS vs righties and 901 vs lefties. I'm surprised how well he's played defensively so far. Has shown good hands so far. Don't want to wear him out. But, until the lineup starts clicking. He's got to play. Need WMB and Drew to start hitting. www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=napolmi01&year=Career&t=b
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Post by elguapo on Apr 21, 2013 12:29:38 GMT -5
Carp has looked great so far, but they're struggling to find at-bats for him, especially with Nava killing it at the plate, and I can't help but think that Sweeney would be a better fit for the roster. They could have had both Sweeney and Carp if they hadn't called up Bradley, but the ship has obviously sailed on that one. 1. I would rather struggle to find AB for Carp than play Sweeney every two weeks and struggle to watch his at bats. At least if someone gets hurt Carp is a reasonable fill in. 2. How would having Carp & Sweeney on the roster make any sense? Then you'd have two bench guys not playing. What's the point? Who do you drop to make that happen?
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Post by brianthetaoist on Apr 21, 2013 13:51:22 GMT -5
Good lord. Is Lorenzo Cain Chechen?
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 21, 2013 14:26:18 GMT -5
You might want to check his splits so far this year. 848 ops vs rightes with both homers and all 17 rbi. Against lefties his OPS is .467 with no RBI. Not too much of a difference career wise either. 845 OPS vs righties and 901 vs lefties. I'm surprised how well he's played defensively so far. Has shown good hands so far. Don't want to wear him out. But, until the lineup starts clicking. He's got to play. Need WMB and Drew to start hitting. www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=napolmi01&year=Career&t=b Yeah. So he's better against lefties, like every righty hitter. This will only become more pronounced as he ages and his bat slows down. And I don't care at all what his splits are to this point in the season. It's still april.
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Post by threeifbaerga on Apr 21, 2013 14:27:26 GMT -5
Jeff Francoeur should just sign 1 year deals with a new team every year.
First year in Atlanta: .844 OPS. Left Atlanta sporting a .634 OPS. Traded to the Mets: .836 OPS. Left NY with a blistering .662 OPS. From New York to Texas for only 15 games: .848 OPS. Signed with KC, .805 OPS first year. Since then he hasn't cracked .700, and after an 0-3 3k day today it's only looking worse.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 21, 2013 14:31:13 GMT -5
Speaking of splits, Francoeur would be an excellent platoon outfielder. .821 career OPS against lefties. But, he's a nice guy and bullpens have 842 dudes in them these days, so he has to play every day.
I can't help but think that modern roster construction took half a decade off Earl Weaver's life.
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Post by jmei on Apr 21, 2013 14:35:49 GMT -5
Carp has looked great so far, but they're struggling to find at-bats for him, especially with Nava killing it at the plate, and I can't help but think that Sweeney would be a better fit for the roster. They could have had both Sweeney and Carp if they hadn't called up Bradley, but the ship has obviously sailed on that one. 1. I would rather struggle to find AB for Carp than play Sweeney every two weeks and struggle to watch his at bats. At least if someone gets hurt Carp is a reasonable fill in. 2. How would having Carp & Sweeney on the roster make any sense? Then you'd have two bench guys not playing. What's the point? Who do you drop to make that happen? 1. Sweeney might not hit for any power, but he makes enough contact and takes enough walks to not be a complete liability at the plate (career .338 OBP, 94 wRC+). He had a bad year last year (especially with strikeouts) but he's a far better hitter than you're giving him credit for, especially against righties (career .293/.347/.402). He also has value as a defensive replacement and as the team's only disposable pinch-running option (for Ortiz, catchers, Napoli, etc.) (the only other fast guy is Ciriaco, and using him as a pinch-runner is risky since he backs up 2B/3B/SS). 2. Instead of calling up Bradley and having him start in LF, the Red Sox could have rotated Nava/Gomes/Carp through LF/DH and had Sweeney be the 5th OF/pinch-runner. When Ortiz came back, you'd have to lose one of Sweeney/Carp, but you'd have delayed that decision and maximized depth in the meantime.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 21, 2013 14:44:15 GMT -5
Jmei, not for nothing, but even if what you are saying is right, then Sweeney would've gotten cut yesterday. Hard to believe they would have had a better record. With Victorino, a fifth outfielder to pay center is not important, at all. Nava can fill-in in an emergency. The only time to use a pinch runner is late in the game so using Ciriaco is not a real problem. Would you rather a 3rd backup center fielder who can't really hit (regardless of his previous stats) or a legit pinch hitter in Carp who also has unexplored upside of which Sweeney has zero.
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Post by Don Caballero on Apr 21, 2013 14:54:17 GMT -5
Speaking of splits, Francoeur would be an excellent platoon outfielder. .821 career OPS against lefties. But, he's a nice guy and bullpens have 842 dudes in them these days, so he has to play every day. Can't have dudes pitching more than 1 inning regardless of pitch count, they might die.
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Post by rjp313jr on Apr 21, 2013 14:57:44 GMT -5
Would make more sense to me if he had pitched today in Pawtucket, and then went on Thursday in Boston, but what do I know. Then Buchholz would have had to pitch Wednesday on short rest.
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Post by mattpicard on Apr 21, 2013 15:03:49 GMT -5
1. I would rather struggle to find AB for Carp than play Sweeney every two weeks and struggle to watch his at bats. At least if someone gets hurt Carp is a reasonable fill in. 2. How would having Carp & Sweeney on the roster make any sense? Then you'd have two bench guys not playing. What's the point? Who do you drop to make that happen? 1. Sweeney might not hit for any power, but he makes enough contact and takes enough walks to not be a complete liability at the plate (career .338 OBP, 94 wRC+). He had a bad year last year (especially with strikeouts) but he's a far better hitter than you're giving him credit for, especially against righties (career .293/.347/.402). He also has value as a defensive replacement and as the team's only disposable pinch-running option (for Ortiz, catchers, Napoli, etc.) (the only other fast guy is Ciriaco, and using him as a pinch-runner is risky since he backs up 2B/3B/SS). 2. Instead of calling up Bradley and having him start in LF, the Red Sox could have rotated Nava/Gomes/Carp through LF/DH and had Sweeney be the 5th OF/pinch-runner. When Ortiz came back, you'd have to lose one of Sweeney/Carp, but you'd have delayed that decision and maximized depth in the meantime. This is actually what I was pushing for (well, JBJ in minors, Sweeney AND Carp). You're absolutely right that Sweeney's bat is completely serviceable off the bench against righties. He has minimal power but people act like he's an automatic out, when really he's a guy with good discipline for a bench bat and decent OBP's. Even with Victorino being a perfectly capable CF, you want premier defenders at 2 of the OF positions and not just one with Fenway being your home park; thus, if anything happened to Ells or SHANF, it would be nice to have a premier defender off the bench. When Ortiz came back, Sweeney or Carp would go, but by then you'd have a decent enough time to make the decision (how well could Nava handle 1B, does the Nava/Gomes platoon look promising in LF, health of others, etc.)
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Apr 21, 2013 15:30:06 GMT -5
Can't have dudes pitching more than 1 inning regardless of pitch count, they might die. It's that kind of careful workload management that makes modern relievers so reliable year-over-year. Wait, what?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 21, 2013 15:31:02 GMT -5
Re: fifth outfielder, Mitch Maier might fit the bill if they needed a guy. He apparently really impressed them in camp, can play all three outfield spots, and has been quite good in Pawtucket since getting activated. That said, no idea how they'd get him on the 40-man.
My guess is that if they need a RF short-term (think 15-day DL), Brentz might be the guy. Long-term (can send a guy to the 60-day), then it'd be Maier.
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Post by mattpicard on Apr 21, 2013 15:36:55 GMT -5
I just can't stand Salty hitting in the middle third of the lineup. To me, he's a garbage hitter with great power. I swear he just gets lucky or makes some good guesses on some of his walks, because he has such a terrible, high k, low-OBP plate approach. Couple that with his substandard defense and terrible pitch framing, and I'm just not that big on him as a player. I think he's a great guy, but I hope this is our last season with him. Anyways, I'm not trying to trash Salty, but my point is that he really shouldn't be hitting 5th or 6th. I honestly think Gomes, Carp, and WMB and Drew (once those two figure out their own problems, they're better hitters than Salty) need to move up over Salty, regardless of the handiness of the pitcher. Well, maybe not Drew for a while, but certainly the others.
I feel a little for Dempster. He's really pitched well, racking up a surprising amount of K's, and can go deep into games. If Drew reacted a little sooner and snagged that Perez liner, it would have been a much better line for Dempster, and hopefully a better result of the game overall. Still probably wouldn't change Salty swinging 2-0 on a guy who had thrown, what, 7 or 8 straight balls?
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Post by charliezink16 on Apr 21, 2013 15:52:48 GMT -5
I just can't stand Salty hitting in the middle third of the lineup. To me, he's a garbage hitter with great power. I swear he just gets lucky or makes some good guesses on some of his walks, because he has such a terrible, high k, low-OBP plate approach. Couple that with his substandard defense and terrible pitch framing, and I'm just not that big on him as a player. I think he's a great guy, but I hope this is our last season with him. Anyways, I'm not trying to trash Salty, but my point is that he really shouldn't be hitting 5th or 6th. I honestly think Gomes, Carp, and WMB and Drew (once those two figure out their own problems, they're better hitters than Salty) need to move up over Salty, regardless of the handiness of the pitcher. Well, maybe not Drew for a while, but certainly the others. THIS. Saltalamacchia hit 25 home runs last season. That’s about all you can positively attribute to him. Salty threw out just 18.4% (18/98) of attempted base stealers, good for second to last in baseball among catchers with 90 starts under their belts (wow Rod Barajas, just wow). Salty has also surrendered 32 combined passed balls over the past two seasons. Offensively, he’s yet to reach base at a .300 clip in his two year Red Sox tenure, and has posted alarming K rates above 30% both years. Honestly, there is no worse feeling than having Salty come to the plate with runners on base in a clutch situation. It's just awful. I honestly have no idea why Farrell hasn't given David Ross more opportunities. There are so many damn reasons why Ross should be the starting catcher IMO.
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