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Post by bosoxnation on Apr 15, 2023 10:06:23 GMT -5
Kenley is throwing his cutter almost 3 mph faster and his 4 seamer is averaging 96.2 after being 93ish his whole career- never reaching 94 for an average The fountain of youth is somewhere in the city of Boston He’s not being used much. Pretty sure he’s already earned like 1.8 mill and he’s pitched 4 innings 😂
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 15, 2023 10:19:07 GMT -5
Lou Merloni is taking over for a stretch starting today
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Apr 15, 2023 12:18:38 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 15, 2023 12:21:00 GMT -5
Angels called up last year's #13 pick Zach Neto from AA and he is debuting today at SS.
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Post by shagworthy on Apr 15, 2023 12:34:31 GMT -5
Well that’s good news cause it looked bad.
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Post by shagworthy on Apr 15, 2023 12:38:44 GMT -5
Angels called up last year's #13 pick Zach Neto from AA and he is debuting today at SS. They sent down Fletcher in thaf move, might be a good buy low candidate who can actually play defense at SS and can hit better than Chang and Kikéâ¦
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Post by blizzards39 on Apr 15, 2023 12:50:39 GMT -5
My prediction was the Sox aren't playoff caliber but right now they are playing like they have the weight of the world on their shoulders. No way most of the lineup is a collection of sub-.200 hitters. The negativity that has been ongoing for over a year and being stoked by local and national media is ridiculous. What the team needs is for a couple of guys to just bust out and carry the load. Today's Lineup: Verdugo - career .287 hitter Turner - career .289 hitter Refsnyder - career .241 hitter Devers - career .282 hitter Kiké - career .237 hitter Arroyo - career .252 hitter Casas - career .175 hitter Wong - career .186 hitter Chang - career .207 hitter While not technically a lineup of mostly sub-.200 hitters, there's 5 players in that lineup that aren't mlb starters (Refsnyder, Kiké, Arroyo, Wong, and Chang) so I don't think nerves/negativity has much to do with it. Negativity can play a part, but in this case I think it's a small part and the real issue is lack of talent. Not really fair. This lineup is in today largely because of the LHP. I wonder what career numbers are Vs LH pitchers. This team is not set up to face a lot of LHers. This is an ugly stretch of that. Turner hasnât realy got going Duval hurt Yoshida hurt Story hurt Mondesi hurt Casas has yet to prove, but everything points to being a MLB regular. Kiké is starting caribe Vs LH Refsyder has proved the same, although we asking a lot of him batting top end Arroyo has downright looked terible. Iâm not sure why. I thought he might be a sleeper. Wong, time will tell more than likely a backup player. Chang. Proven to be a backup player. Dalbec looks aweful. None of the young guys producing great on the farm. What it really comes down to is none of these guys are at all hitting. That happens and when it’s at the start of a year it is multiplied and when media and socialM puts pressure on players it clearly multiplies the pressure . And Boston is already a hot pot to begin with.
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Post by blizzards39 on Apr 15, 2023 12:55:40 GMT -5
Angels called up last year's #13 pick Zach Neto from AA and he is debuting today at SS. They sent down Fletcher in thaf move, might be a good buy low candidate who can actually play defense at SS and can hit better than Chang and Kiké⦠Why can other teams do this and it seems to work. Sox never try it. Are our prospects that overhyped? Netto is 22. Same age as Raffaella. Look at Harris for Braves last year. Outa know where
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Post by incandenza on Apr 15, 2023 13:01:36 GMT -5
As of 120 hours ago the Red Sox had a team wRC+ of 118, which was fourth best in the majors. Then they played four games against the best pitching team in the majors and it appears to have broken a lot of brains.
Whatever expectations anyone had for this offense before the season began shouldn't be any different now. (Yeah, Duvall got hurt, but ~0% of you were predicting he'd be the lynchpin of the offense before his absurdly hot opening week of the season.)
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Apr 15, 2023 13:09:40 GMT -5
They sent down Fletcher in thaf move, might be a good buy low candidate who can actually play defense at SS and can hit better than Chang and Kiké⦠Why can other teams do this and it seems to work. Sox never try it. Are our prospects that overhyped? Netto is 22. Same age as Raffaella. Look at Harris for Braves last year. Outa know where I think you’re making a big deal out of the exceptions and not the rule. What Neto is doing is extremely rare, saying that other teams can do this like it’s easy is a bit of selection bias. It’s also just not true that this doesn’t happen to the Red Sox (Xander, Devers, and Mookie all debuted at 20 or 21 years old). At the end of the day, everyone’s development curve is different. Yeah Neto was a super advanced bat that was able to push the majors early, but he might also not have the ceiling that someone who is making their way through the minors a little more methodically has. It’s natural to see nice things other teams have an be a little envious, but I don’t really think your complaint has very much logical basis at all.
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Post by bosoxnation on Apr 15, 2023 13:11:38 GMT -5
I remember about a week ago i said Casas isn’t ready and i got jumped all over. Well it’s mid april i understand but out of the 28 players who played for us he’s last on the team in WAR. Below Sale and Chang. If anyone wants to apologize i’m open ears. lol
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Post by cdj on Apr 15, 2023 13:13:23 GMT -5
he has 40 AB’s and you tried to say his play last year (when he was good!) proved he wasn’t ready lmao
Nobody is going to apologize for at least a little while
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Post by yuchangclan on Apr 15, 2023 13:16:24 GMT -5
FYI…the guy that caught Volpe’s first HR ball gave it back to him….
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 15, 2023 13:30:14 GMT -5
Friendly reminder that the Boston Red Sox are currently 6th in a league of 30 teams in runs scored.
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 15, 2023 13:37:00 GMT -5
The batting average for all of MLB this year is .244, just for some context on the numbers being quoted. Though I’m not really sure why batting average is being used as the offensive quality metric of choice.
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Post by blizzards39 on Apr 15, 2023 13:41:57 GMT -5
The batting average for all of MLB this year is .244, just for some context on the numbers being quoted. Though I’m not really sure why batting average is being used as the offensive quality metric of choice. Well stated
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Post by bosoxnation on Apr 15, 2023 13:43:40 GMT -5
he has 40 AB’s and you tried to say his play last year (when he was good!) proved he wasn’t ready lmao Nobody is going to apologize for at least a little while no i said he sucked last year 😂
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Post by bosoxnation on Apr 15, 2023 13:46:04 GMT -5
Friendly reminder that the Boston Red Sox are currently 6th in a league of 30 teams in runs scored. If we were in the national league we would be elite.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Apr 15, 2023 13:51:27 GMT -5
he has 40 AB’s and you tried to say his play last year (when he was good!) proved he wasn’t ready lmao Nobody is going to apologize for at least a little while no i said he sucked last year 😂 Which is not correct, so you’re not exactly helping your case here.
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Post by bosoxnation on Apr 15, 2023 13:59:08 GMT -5
no i said he sucked last year 😂 Which is not correct, so you’re not exactly helping your case here. If he didn’t get walks then yes the rest of his game did offensively. This year he isn’t getting walked at all. Last year like 20 in 75 abs this year like 4 in 50 abs.
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Post by manfred on Apr 15, 2023 14:03:33 GMT -5
no i said he sucked last year 😂 Which is not correct, so you’re not exactly helping your case here. Obviously I’m high on Casas, and obviously it is early. Butttt… I do hope the Sox learned from the Dalbec catastrophe. This team is digging a hole, and if Casas is still awful after even 25-30 games, they need to have a plan. They cannot afford multiple ineffective positions for more than 1/4 of the season. Hopefully he gets hot (even warm) and makes it all moot.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Apr 15, 2023 14:03:43 GMT -5
Which is not correct, so you’re not exactly helping your case here. If he didn’t get walks then yes the rest of his game did offensively. This year he isn’t getting walked at all. Last year like 20 in 75 abs this year like 4 in 50 abs. “if he didn’t get walks last year he wouldn’t have been good” but… he did?? No one is claiming that he’s been stellar this year, but to imply that is moving the goalposts from your original argument. He’s struggled to be sure but it’s irrational to panic in mid-April.
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Post by incandenza on Apr 15, 2023 14:16:44 GMT -5
Which is not correct, so you’re not exactly helping your case here. Obviously I’m high on Casas, and obviously it is early. Butttt… I do hope the Sox learned from the Dalbec catastrophe. This team is digging a hole, and if Casas is still awful after even 25-30 games, they need to have a plan. They cannot afford multiple ineffective positions for more than 1/4 of the season. Hopefully he gets hot (even warm) and makes it all moot. I kind of disagree with this. What would a plan B even look like? Trade for a Hosmer type? There's no one that could be had for a reasonable price that would be a better option than "hope Casas figures it out." And if you think the Red Sox are on the outside looking in, regarding their playoff hopes, then it makes more sense to take the high-risk/high-reward approach of just hoping Casas explodes.
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Post by manfred on Apr 15, 2023 14:22:11 GMT -5
Obviously I’m high on Casas, and obviously it is early. Butttt… I do hope the Sox learned from the Dalbec catastrophe. This team is digging a hole, and if Casas is still awful after even 25-30 games, they need to have a plan. They cannot afford multiple ineffective positions for more than 1/4 of the season. Hopefully he gets hot (even warm) and makes it all moot. I kind of disagree with this. What would a plan B even look like? Trade for a Hosmer type? There's no one that could be had for a reasonable price that would be a better option than "hope Casas figures it out." And if you think the Red Sox are on the outside looking in, regarding their playoff hopes, then it makes more sense to take the high-risk/high-reward approach of just hoping Casas explodes.
I don’t know. No, not trade for Hosmer. But maybe play Turner at 1b everyday, rotate some guys. Especially if Duvall and Story (even Modesi) are back.
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Post by cdj on Apr 15, 2023 14:24:19 GMT -5
Which is not correct, so you’re not exactly helping your case here. If he didn’t get walks then yes the rest of his game did offensively. This year he isn’t getting walked at all. Last year like 20 in 75 abs this year like 4 in 50 abs. Yeah man if he didn’t do good things he would have been bad, it’s a great point
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