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Post by scottysmalls on Oct 26, 2023 15:10:54 GMT -5
If you ignore longevity and just look at Pedro's 7-year peak run, 1997-2003, he had a 2.20 ERA and absurd numbers across the board.
But you know who had an even better ERA across 7 seasons? Clayton Kershaw: 2.10. Admittedly not right through the heart of the steroid era, nor in Fenway.
But you know who has the single best ERA in the last century? Clayton Kershaw. You can give Pedro the nod for best extended peak, but Kershaw really should be talked about as possibly the best pitcher in MLB history, given how good he's been for as long as he has.
Turning into a back of the rotation guy in the playoffs kills his reputation, if he was merely good in the playoffs people would be talking about him as a generational talent….Which he probably still is, he’s just not discussed like one The playoff thing I think is a little bit fair. It's not a tiny sample size, in 194 innings he's got a 114 ERA-, 14% worse than a league average pitcher over the equivalent of an entire season. Pedro on the other hand had a 75 post-season ERA- (in about half the innings).
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Post by incandenza on Oct 26, 2023 19:47:10 GMT -5
If you ignore longevity and just look at Pedro's 7-year peak run, 1997-2003, he had a 2.20 ERA and absurd numbers across the board.
But you know who had an even better ERA across 7 seasons? Clayton Kershaw: 2.10. Admittedly not right through the heart of the steroid era, nor in Fenway.
But you know who has the single best ERA in the last century? Clayton Kershaw. You can give Pedro the nod for best extended peak, but Kershaw really should be talked about as possibly the best pitcher in MLB history, given how good he's been for as long as he has.
Turning into a back of the rotation guy in the playoffs kills his reputation, if he was merely good in the playoffs people would be talking about him as a generational talent…. Which he probably still is, he’s just not discussed like one And this is my point about Kershaw: he is both universally regarded as a first ballot hall-of-famer, and remarkably underrated.
The playoffs thing is a ding, but he hasn't been as bad as his reputation, and he was good in a number of playoff runs, including 2020, the year the won a championship.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Oct 27, 2023 8:28:16 GMT -5
Tony Mazz with a dbag shot at SP for the post about LH relief prospects
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Post by Edward Hand on Oct 27, 2023 10:34:53 GMT -5
Tony Mazz with a dbag shot at SP for the post about LH relief prospects Must've been a slow news day. Hard to complain about the engagement, that poll ended up getting more views than all the other ones combined, but yeah it was pretty weird.
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Post by cdj on Oct 27, 2023 11:35:31 GMT -5
hack does hack things
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Oct 27, 2023 14:33:17 GMT -5
Tony Mazz with a dbag shot at SP for the post about LH relief prospects I turned off that spigot years ago. He neither informs nor entertains, so what is the point -- agida? Might I recommend a good book?
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Oct 27, 2023 20:29:33 GMT -5
Tony Mazz with a dbag shot at SP for the post about LH relief prospects I turned off that spigot years ago. He neither informs nor entertains, so what is the point -- agida? Might I recommend a good book? I don't follow him, someone called him out in a QT. Go ahead and read the book yourself
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Post by TearsIn04 on Oct 28, 2023 20:41:37 GMT -5
What did the wannabe Shank say?
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Post by cdj on Oct 28, 2023 20:45:47 GMT -5
What did the wannabe Shank say? Mazz apparently taking a shot at a soxprospects poll
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 28, 2023 20:59:30 GMT -5
What did the wannabe Shank say? Mazz apparently taking a shot at a soxprospects poll What kind of shot? How does one criticize a soxprospects poll (was it for lefty relievers?)?
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 31, 2023 16:03:53 GMT -5
Sports talk radio is poison
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Nov 2, 2023 8:54:26 GMT -5
If a gasbag prattles in the forest & no one is listening ...
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Post by grandsalami on Feb 23, 2024 11:49:46 GMT -5
"It was entirely possible, and for a reasonable price. You can cry now." then goes on to list six (6) straight players making at least a $20m+ AAV in 2024.
How the hell does he still have a job
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 23, 2024 11:53:40 GMT -5
"It was entirely possible, and for a reasonable price. You can cry now." then goes on to list six (6) straight players making at least a $20m+ AAV in 2024. How the hell does he still have a job It's absolutely ridiculous which is to be expected by Tomase but even if you want to entertain the thought, why the heck would we want JD Martinez at DH and Schwarber in LF? Feel like you'd want Schwarber at DH and I don't know Verdugo or Duran/Abreu in LF. Edit: I don't know why I clicked on the stupid article, couldn't help myself but he's just saying that oh what if Xander signed for 6/150 and that they gave Martinez 1/10 in his mythical scenario. Sure maybe it's semi plausible in MLB the Show but his rotation consists of Eovaldi, Giolito, Bello, Whitlock and Pivetta which is basically what we're looking at right now minus Eovaldi and somehow he comes to a conclusion that the total payroll would be $252M. I guess just glossing over the fact that they'd still be on the hook for Sale's money.
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Post by grandsalami on Feb 23, 2024 12:09:02 GMT -5
"It was entirely possible, and for a reasonable price. You can cry now." then goes on to list six (6) straight players making at least a $20m+ AAV in 2024. How the hell does he still have a job It's absolutely ridiculous which is to be expected by Tomase but even if you want to entertain the thought, why the heck would we want JD Martinez at DH and Schwarber in LF? Feel like you'd want Schwarber at DH and I don't know Verdugo or Duran/Abreu in LF. Edit: I don't know why I clicked on the stupid article, couldn't help myself but he's just saying that oh what if Xander signed for 6/150 and that they gave Martinez 1/10 in his mythical scenario. Sure maybe it's semi plausible in MLB the Show but his rotation consists of Eovaldi, Giolito, Bello, Whitlock and Pivetta which is basically what we're looking at right now minus Eovaldi and somehow he comes to a conclusion that the total payroll would be $252M. I guess just glossing over the fact that they'd still be on the hook for Sale's money. and I want a pony... Dude is a paid to be a "reporter" not some dude on a random blog.... he gives actual journalists a bad name
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Post by James Dunne on Feb 23, 2024 12:50:57 GMT -5
I'm not going to go too deep into criticizing other guys trying to make a living in this space, but Wong is better at baseball than Vazquez.
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 23, 2024 13:30:43 GMT -5
I'm not going to go too deep into criticizing other guys trying to make a living in this space, but Wong is better at baseball than Vazquez. I shudder to do this but putting myself in Tomase's mindset I would assume since his theoretical still has Mookie in Boston Wong wouldn't have been traded to Boston which now that I think of it would mean neither was Verdugo so my theoretical tear down of his article is flawed.
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Post by brendan98 on Feb 23, 2024 13:34:20 GMT -5
Or they could have traded Reyes for Acuna and Urias for Soto and then the OF would be Soto, Acuna, Betts. On second thought they would probably have to throw in a couple of second tier prospects. Tomase is a clown.
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Post by burythehammer on Feb 23, 2024 13:38:27 GMT -5
I don't expect a deluge of "likes" for this post, lol. But the extreme Tomase hate is pretty silly. He screwed up badly in his job 20 years ago. He let his competitiveness and desire to break a big story override his caution. But it was 20 friggin' years ago. Has anyone on here not screwed up in their job once in the last 20 years? It's not like his careless mistake caused the rest of the NFL or fans to think that HC NEP was a cheater. That cake was already baked. The journalistic screwup was akin to accusing Willie Sutton of robbing a bank that he didn't really rob. It was neutral in terms of affecting anyone's reputation. I basically agree with this. I don't know why he insists on calling himself a reporter still though, as far as I can tell the only thing he writes anymore is clickbait opinion pieces. Idk seems like a decent guy, we all gotta make a living somehow.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 23, 2024 14:34:40 GMT -5
I don't expect a deluge of "likes" for this post, lol. But the extreme Tomase hate is pretty silly. He screwed up badly in his job 20 years ago. He let his competitiveness and desire to break a big story override his caution. But it was 20 friggin' years ago. Has anyone on here not screwed up in their job once in the last 20 years? It's not like his careless mistake caused the rest of the NFL or fans to think that HC NEP was a cheater. That cake was already baked. The journalistic screwup was akin to accusing Willie Sutton of robbing a bank that he didn't really rob. It was neutral in terms of affecting anyone's reputation. I basically agree with this. I don't know why he insists on calling himself a reporter still though, as far as I can tell the only thing he writes anymore is clickbait opinion pieces. Idk seems like a decent guy, we all gotta make a living somehow. Hes more of a columnist these days than a beat writer. His larger point isnt hard to understand. I mean you could keep Xander at SS, never have signed Story but still make the Sale for Grissom deal and have a lesser payroll. And yeah JDM and Schwarber smashing 70 homers between them rather than the 25 homers they're likely to get from DH/LF if that winds up Yoshida/Duran (if Rafaela winds up in CF) has appeal, but the defense would be a heckuva trade off not that Duran is any great shakes defensively but he can definitely move, unlike Schwarber. Anyways at Winterfest, on a personal note, I actually bumped into Jonn Tomase and had a nice conversation with him for a few minutes. Enjoyed my chat with him. I also ran into Alex Speier the night before and got to tell him how revered he is on this site. Enjoyed talking with him as well.
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Post by patford on Feb 23, 2024 14:48:55 GMT -5
"It was entirely possible, and for a reasonable price. You can cry now." then goes on to list six (6) straight players making at least a $20m+ AAV in 2024. How the hell does he still have a job It's absolutely ridiculous which is to be expected by Tomase but even if you want to entertain the thought, why the heck would we want JD Martinez at DH and Schwarber in LF? Feel like you'd want Schwarber at DH and I don't know Verdugo or Duran/Abreu in LF. Edit: I don't know why I clicked on the stupid article, couldn't help myself but he's just saying that oh what if Xander signed for 6/150 and that they gave Martinez 1/10 in his mythical scenario. Sure maybe it's semi plausible in MLB the Show but his rotation consists of Eovaldi, Giolito, Bello, Whitlock and Pivetta which is basically what we're looking at right now minus Eovaldi and somehow he comes to a conclusion that the total payroll would be $252M. I guess just glossing over the fact that they'd still be on the hook for Sale's money. He's a clown. I assume most people are happy Bogaerts is gone. Does anyone pine for Martinez? Betts was always going to the Dodgers in a way no different from Ohtani, Yamamoto going there.
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Post by bishop on Feb 23, 2024 15:25:55 GMT -5
I laughed when San Diego signed him to that contract but I wouldn't say I'm happy Bogaerts is gone, good player, good teammate, always sentimental for guys who came up through the system. Heck if Devers gets moved to DH and SD wants to chip in some $$$ I wouldn't mind a Xander reunion with him starting at 3B and offering a little utility value.
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Post by patford on Feb 23, 2024 15:39:26 GMT -5
I laughed when San Diego signed him to that contract but I wouldn't say I'm happy Bogaerts is gone, good player, good teammate, always sentimental for guys who came up through the system. Heck if Devers gets moved to DH and SD wants to chip in some $$$ I wouldn't mind a Xander reunion with him starting at 3B and offering a little utility value. It's not just the money. It's the length of the contract. Besides if he was still with the Sox I have to assume he would be refusing to move off SS.
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Post by pappyman99 on Feb 23, 2024 15:40:55 GMT -5
Tomase is such an idiot.
I mean I should apply for his job because he has the thought process of when I was 10 years old when it comes to sports “journalism”
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Post by patford on Feb 23, 2024 15:43:32 GMT -5
Tomase is like a homeless person sitting on the sidewalk shouting over and over, "-Look at me!!!-Look at me!!!-Look at me!!!"
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