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Post by okin15 on Aug 10, 2023 14:43:26 GMT -5
And with that, I think it's time to start talking about the AFL roster. IIRC each team gets like 6-7 spots, some of each pitchers and hitters. I think foreign nationals with alternative winter leagues are not allowed. And they have to be from AA or AAA with some potential for A+. Song is an excellent candidate. Bannon and Bleis wouldn't be eligible, though they could report to instrux if they're healthy. Possibly Mayer if his injury drags a little. Who else has missed time with an injury, or is in A+ and knocking at the promotion door, or is short some innings?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 10, 2023 20:16:50 GMT -5
My guess:
Hickey (Dark horse, Teel)
Mayer
One of Meidroth or Jordan
Sikes or Rosier
Dobbins
3 of the following:
Guerrero
Zeferjahn
Troye
Hoppe
Liu
Coffey
Gambrell
Song
Wikelman
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 10, 2023 20:17:57 GMT -5
And with that, I think it's time to start talking about the AFL roster. IIRC each team gets like 6-7 spots, some of each pitchers and hitters. I think foreign nationals with alternative winter leagues are not allowed. And they have to be from AA or AAA with some potential for A+. Song is an excellent candidate. Bannon and Bleis wouldn't be eligible, though they could report to instrux if they're healthy. Possibly Mayer if his injury drags a little. Who else has missed time with an injury, or is in A+ and knocking at the promotion door, or is short some innings? 8 spots (usu. 1 C, 1 or 2 IF, 1 or 2 OF, 1 SP, 3 RP) Rule about players from countries with winter leagues no longer a thing, although that used to be the case. No more rule about what level a guy is at (used to be everyone had to be at AA or above as of August 1, with one exception per team. Wound up leading to a decent number of AA promotions the last week of July). Talent level is usually AA-ish still. No 40-man guys. |
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Post by redsox56 on Aug 10, 2023 21:01:44 GMT -5
You would think Mata is going to get heavy consideration here since he missed almost all the season. He's scheduled to come back mid August from what I've read.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 10, 2023 21:53:16 GMT -5
You would think Mata is going to get heavy consideration here since he missed almost all the season. He's scheduled to come back mid August from what I've read. No 40-man players |
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 10, 2023 22:37:02 GMT -5
If Meidroth's slump has been from an adjustment they're traying to take, then he'll probably be there; if it's from him hitting the wall then I'm guessing they'll give him a breather.
Might throw Wyatt Olds into the possible pitchers, he's gotten some momentum going and he was always kind of an obvious bullpen candidate. Innings-wise I'd think there's zero concern.
Gambrell figures to be north of 120 IP after throwing 55 total from 2020 to 2022. I guess the R5 eligibility is a wrinkle, but I'm thinking they probably give him a full offseason.
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Post by scottysmalls on Aug 10, 2023 22:51:03 GMT -5
Teel would be a fun pick would love to see him fast tracked
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Post by brendan98 on Aug 11, 2023 11:55:46 GMT -5
Would it be too much of a step up in competition for Roman Anthony as a 19 yo with a half season of Hi A under his belt?
Would love to see Teel and Mayer, also Wikelman and Guerrero.
Others - Bonaci, Blaze and Meidroth.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 11, 2023 12:48:25 GMT -5
Would it be too much of a step up in competition for Roman Anthony as a 19 yo with a half season of Hi A under his belt? Would love to see Teel and Mayer, also Wikelman and Guerrero. Others - Bonaci, Blaze and Meidroth. It's rare for them to pick a guy after his first full season. Typically they'll bring them in for the Fall Performance Program and send them home. I'd bet good money they do that with Anthony. |
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Post by okin15 on Aug 16, 2023 14:40:35 GMT -5
How many guys do they bring to Fall Performance (is that the new "Instrux"?) Is it everyone else, 50% of the org? 20%?
At some point was there or could there be a piece about what that program means? Do they play some games? Where is this all located? Just a human-interest type thing.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 16, 2023 15:09:45 GMT -5
We list the players in attendance (or in the case of last year, who were supposed to attend) on the Fall-Winter page. It's basically a post-season camp. Last year it would've been in two waves basically based on where guys are at in the org. soxprospects.com/fall-winter.htmIt's not free Fall Instructional League anymore because teams don't play each other. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Aug 30, 2023 11:08:20 GMT -5
Iggy Suarez (Greenville manager) is managing the Glendale Desert Dogs this fall. The team will consist of Red Sox, Dodgers, Mets, Twins, and White Sox prospects.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Sept 22, 2023 9:21:04 GMT -5
Red Sox participants:
Nathan Hickey
Brainer Bonaci
Corey Rosier
Felix Cepeda
Bryan Mata
Wyatt Olds
Zach Penrod
Christopher Troye
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Post by soxfanatic on Sept 22, 2023 9:22:12 GMT -5
Not the most exciting group.
So it turns out Mata is eligible.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 22, 2023 15:14:14 GMT -5
Not the most exciting group. So it turns out Mata is eligible. Yeah we figured this out in another thread on Mata. Don't know if I agree with your assessment of the group. If you figure that they are, in fact, sticking to not sending guys in their first or first full seasons (read: no Teel, Anthony, Meidroth, Hoppe...), you basically get this group or something close. Hickey is best available, reasonable catcher and predictable. Top 20 guy. Bonaci is a top 20 available, reasonable, non-hurt infielder. Yorke probably wasn't repeating. Rosier was the fairly obvious and best available, reasonable outfielder, imo. Top 50. Mata is top 30 and was fairly obvious once we realized he could go. Desperately needs innings. Penrod is a guy. See our discussion of him on the podcast and Ian's Twitter. Top 50 with momentum. Cepeda & Troye are solid relievers from that 25-50 or 60 group. Troye is top 30 or 40 and Cepeda has upward momentum towards that group perhaps. Olds is maybe the least exciting but they're trying to fix him. His stuff was impressive a couple springs ago. Olds is the only unranked guy. That's a good group. Often you used to get a bunch of whatever pitchers and at least one or two bleh hitters. |
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Post by nomar on Sept 22, 2023 15:16:00 GMT -5
Red Sox participants: Nathan Hickey Brainer Bonaci Corey Rosier Felix Cepeda Bryan Mata Wyatt Olds Zach Penrod Christopher Troye Hickey and Bonaci is a fun combo. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Oct 2, 2023 7:45:34 GMT -5
The AFL starts today - Glendale plays at 8:30pm EST.
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Post by greenmonster on Oct 2, 2023 8:34:44 GMT -5
For anyone interested in watching, I believe this website will have a link for live stream of some of the games. Doesn't look like the links are active just yet so my apologies if this is a dead-end www.mlb.com/arizona-fall-league/live-streams |
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Post by ephus on Oct 2, 2023 13:04:11 GMT -5
The AFL starts today - Glendale plays at 8:30pm EST. The future begins now. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Oct 2, 2023 17:27:37 GMT -5
Penrod starting for Glendale. Hickey batting cleanup and DH'ing, Bonaci batting 9th and playing 2B.
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Post by ephus on Oct 3, 2023 9:04:52 GMT -5
Penrod starting for Glendale. Hickey batting cleanup and DH'ing, Bonaci batting 9th and playing 2B. Tough luck loss for Penrod. Went four, gave up three hits, and one earned. A little wild with 3 bb, but also tacked on 4ks Hickey 0-3 with a walk and a k Brainer 1-3 with a k And with that the first Arizona fall league boxscore review is complete. |
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Post by bos834 on Oct 3, 2023 9:21:47 GMT -5
May be a question more suited for someone like Ian who has seen him (multiple times?) but what is hypothetically a realistic best case timeline for Penrod due to his advanced age? If he continues to progress would he spend a year in AA then a year in AAA before making it to the show. Or would they be more aggressive with his age, maybe splitting the year between the two? Or do they start him in AAA next year? Or does he still seem like an organization depth piece?
I would imagine AFL performance and off season improvements would play a part, as would how he looks in the spring. It's definitely too early to know for sure, but off season is the perfect time for speculation.
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Post by sittingstill on Oct 3, 2023 9:33:15 GMT -5
For anyone interested in watching, I believe this website will have a link for live stream of some of the games. Doesn't look like the links are active just yet so my apologies if this is a dead-end www.mlb.com/arizona-fall-league/live-streamsLooks like they are also making the recordings available, which is great for those of us on the east coast. I watched the first five innings last night but had to get the link via mlb.com/video as it never appeared on the livestream page. |
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Post by jbur521 on Oct 3, 2023 21:07:56 GMT -5
For anyone interested in watching, I believe this website will have a link for live stream of some of the games. Doesn't look like the links are active just yet so my apologies if this is a dead-end www.mlb.com/arizona-fall-league/live-streamsit works, thanks! |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Oct 9, 2023 21:50:21 GMT -5
Penrod in his second AFL outing: 4IP 1H 0ER 2BB 5K
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