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Theo Epstein Returns as Part Owner & Advisor
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Post by chr31ter on Feb 2, 2024 9:01:17 GMT -5
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Post by bloomstaxonomy on Feb 2, 2024 9:11:41 GMT -5
I'm shocked. I think this is good? Doesn't sound like he'll be all that involved in baseball ops, but the prodigal son has finally returned home. Happy to have a successful hometown guy join the ownership group. Hopefully he takes over as principal owner one day, but I have a hard time seeing that happen. Not sure how those mechanisms work, given the vast wealth of Kennedy, Werner, etc.
I'm confused, though, because Kennedy was adamant in November that Theo wasn't walking through that door. I suppose he meant re: baseball ops, but it seems odd in retrospect. Did anything change over the winter?
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 2, 2024 9:15:37 GMT -5
Wow, not player related but love the fact Theo is on board. Can only be a help to the organization as a whole. Having an ownership stake in the FSG maybe he can get Henry, Werner and Kennedy to get their heads outta their you know what!
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Post by bellhorndingers21 on Feb 2, 2024 9:16:24 GMT -5
I'm shocked. I think this is good? Doesn't sound like he'll be all that involved in baseball ops, but the prodigal son has finally returned home. Happy to have a successful hometown guy join the ownership group. Hopefully he takes over as principal owner one day, but I have a hard time seeing that happen. Not sure how those mechanisms work, given the vast wealth of Kennedy, Werner, etc. I'm confused, though, because Kennedy was adamant in November that Theo wasn't walking through that door. I suppose he meant re: baseball ops, but it seems odd in retrospect. Did anything change over the winter? Feels like just a stepping stone until he becomes the next commissioner
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 2, 2024 9:21:40 GMT -5
I'm shocked. I think this is good? Doesn't sound like he'll be all that involved in baseball ops, but the prodigal son has finally returned home. Happy to have a successful hometown guy join the ownership group. Hopefully he takes over as principal owner one day, but I have a hard time seeing that happen. Not sure how those mechanisms work, given the vast wealth of Kennedy, Werner, etc. I'm confused, though, because Kennedy was adamant in November that Theo wasn't walking through that door. I suppose he meant re: baseball ops, but it seems odd in retrospect. Did anything change over the winter? Feels like just a stepping stone until he becomes the next commissioner Curious why you would think this? If anything I would think just keeping his current position in the MLB offices would have been more a stepping stone than joining the FSG ownership group. Also it's not like Manfred is terribly old and doesn't seem likely to me to be jettisoned so don't see him going anywhere until he decides to retire which could be 10-15 years from now for all we know.
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Post by nomar on Feb 2, 2024 9:23:20 GMT -5
I love Theo. Glad he’s coming home. If and when Henry does sell, I hope Theo can be the face/decision maker of the next ownership group. Maybe this is step 1 in something like that happening.
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Post by carl4sox on Feb 2, 2024 9:24:48 GMT -5
Finally, good news out of theRedSox camp. The best off-season signing we could have.
Now fire Kennedy.
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Post by greenmonster on Feb 2, 2024 9:28:30 GMT -5
I'm shocked. I think this is good? Doesn't sound like he'll be all that involved in baseball ops, but the prodigal son has finally returned home. Happy to have a successful hometown guy join the ownership group. Hopefully he takes over as principal owner one day, but I have a hard time seeing that happen. Not sure how those mechanisms work, given the vast wealth of Kennedy, Werner, etc. I'm confused, though, because Kennedy was adamant in November that Theo wasn't walking through that door. I suppose he meant re: baseball ops, but it seems odd in retrospect. Did anything change over the winter? Maybe Theo will be replacing Kennedy and JWH hasn't informed him yet ...... wishful thinking
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Post by scottysmalls on Feb 2, 2024 9:35:26 GMT -5
No idea what impact he'll be able to have but I love it.
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Post by scottysmalls on Feb 2, 2024 9:37:26 GMT -5
Also to everyone saying maybe he'll replace Kennedy, why would Theo want that job? You think he wants to think about maximizing revenue and marketing plans and all the other aspects of a team outside of the baseball? In whatever time he is dedicating to the Red Sox I hope he is only (or at least primarily) concerned with on-field matters.
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Post by bloomstaxonomy on Feb 2, 2024 9:41:49 GMT -5
For everyone hoping Craig would be able to have a vet GM advisor (a la Allard Baird, Frank Wren, etc.), this is great news. Theo himself had one, whose name escapes me. Hopefully Kyle Boddy is the Bill James here.
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Post by stevedillard on Feb 2, 2024 9:42:15 GMT -5
I have never felt like Henry and Werner group were not supportive of the operation, financially. They were (1) bad at publicity/communications and (2) may have lacked the direct connection to the baseball people who could give better feedback on the baseball decisions. This solves both. And, because FSG does need additional money for its buying spree, taking his under 10 mil investment, maybe with a sweetheart consulting contract giving him a return on his investment for minor PR duties, is a win for all. But its primarily PR, and I don't think Breslow will have Theo over his shoulder. If anything, Breslow can use Theo to explain his baseball needs to the Henry/Werner folks.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Feb 2, 2024 9:44:49 GMT -5
Only good news this offseason
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Post by incandenza on Feb 2, 2024 9:46:46 GMT -5
Seems like there have been issues with communications between ownership and baseball ops over the last several years so maybe this helps with that?
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Post by awalkinthepark on Feb 2, 2024 9:54:38 GMT -5
I'm shocked. I think this is good? Doesn't sound like he'll be all that involved in baseball ops, but the prodigal son has finally returned home. Happy to have a successful hometown guy join the ownership group. Hopefully he takes over as principal owner one day, but I have a hard time seeing that happen. Not sure how those mechanisms work, given the vast wealth of Kennedy, Werner, etc. I'm confused, though, because Kennedy was adamant in November that Theo wasn't walking through that door. I suppose he meant re: baseball ops, but it seems odd in retrospect. Did anything change over the winter? He was definitely talking about running baseball ops. Theo has said that he is interested in joining an ownership group so this isn't all that surprising to me.
I absolutely love this news.
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Post by cdj on Feb 2, 2024 9:56:32 GMT -5
Also to everyone saying maybe he'll replace Kennedy, why would Theo want that job? You think he wants to think about maximizing revenue and marketing plans and all the other aspects of a team outside of the baseball? In whatever time he is dedicating to the Red Sox I hope he is only (or at least primarily) concerned with on-field matters. Pretty sure those two are tight too Idk what this means for the Sox but it can’t be bad news
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Post by sxfan on Feb 2, 2024 9:56:46 GMT -5
Finally some credibility back to the organization again.
If I had to listen to Werner sell the "Fenway experience" I think I would have blown my head off.
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Post by redsoxfansince94 on Feb 2, 2024 9:57:58 GMT -5
Welcome home, beautiful man.
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Post by greenmonster on Feb 2, 2024 9:59:14 GMT -5
I'm shocked. I think this is good? Doesn't sound like he'll be all that involved in baseball ops, but the prodigal son has finally returned home. Happy to have a successful hometown guy join the ownership group. Hopefully he takes over as principal owner one day, but I have a hard time seeing that happen. Not sure how those mechanisms work, given the vast wealth of Kennedy, Werner, etc. I'm confused, though, because Kennedy was adamant in November that Theo wasn't walking through that door. I suppose he meant re: baseball ops, but it seems odd in retrospect. Did anything change over the winter? Another example that when Kennedy opens his mouth, nothing honest or truthful comes out
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Post by nomar on Feb 2, 2024 10:05:14 GMT -5
Gammons is framing as Epstein stepping in as Henry focuses on his other ventures. I’m not sure if that’s true but I’m all for it if so
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Post by chaimtime on Feb 2, 2024 10:23:27 GMT -5
I'm shocked. I think this is good? Doesn't sound like he'll be all that involved in baseball ops, but the prodigal son has finally returned home. Happy to have a successful hometown guy join the ownership group. Hopefully he takes over as principal owner one day, but I have a hard time seeing that happen. Not sure how those mechanisms work, given the vast wealth of Kennedy, Werner, etc. I'm confused, though, because Kennedy was adamant in November that Theo wasn't walking through that door. I suppose he meant re: baseball ops, but it seems odd in retrospect. Did anything change over the winter? Just saying, Theo’s hardly been prodigal in his years away from the team. Regardless, I’m gonna guess that what changed was Theo decided to hand someone a big sack of cash in order to get in on the FSG gravy train.
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Post by ematz1423 on Feb 2, 2024 10:27:48 GMT -5
I'm shocked. I think this is good? Doesn't sound like he'll be all that involved in baseball ops, but the prodigal son has finally returned home. Happy to have a successful hometown guy join the ownership group. Hopefully he takes over as principal owner one day, but I have a hard time seeing that happen. Not sure how those mechanisms work, given the vast wealth of Kennedy, Werner, etc. I'm confused, though, because Kennedy was adamant in November that Theo wasn't walking through that door. I suppose he meant re: baseball ops, but it seems odd in retrospect. Did anything change over the winter? Just saying, Theo’s hardly been prodigal in his years away from the team. Regardless, I’m gonna guess that what changed was Theo decided to hand someone a big sack of cash in order to get in on the FSG gravy train. There are worse things to invest one's money in than FSG I'd imagine. Especially if the rumors of FSG being in the running to own an NBA team when the league expands next. Chances are the portfolio as a whole will continue to rise in value.
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Post by bloomstaxonomy on Feb 2, 2024 10:28:16 GMT -5
I'm shocked. I think this is good? Doesn't sound like he'll be all that involved in baseball ops, but the prodigal son has finally returned home. Happy to have a successful hometown guy join the ownership group. Hopefully he takes over as principal owner one day, but I have a hard time seeing that happen. Not sure how those mechanisms work, given the vast wealth of Kennedy, Werner, etc. I'm confused, though, because Kennedy was adamant in November that Theo wasn't walking through that door. I suppose he meant re: baseball ops, but it seems odd in retrospect. Did anything change over the winter? Just saying, Theo’s hardly been prodigal in his years away from the team. Regardless, I’m gonna guess that what changed was Theo decided to hand someone a big sack of cash in order to get in on the FSG gravy train. Today I learned what prodigal means.
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Post by ghostofjuanpena on Feb 2, 2024 10:33:06 GMT -5
Finally a happy moment in this dreadful offseason , Theo has come home to save this franchise
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Post by julyanmorley on Feb 2, 2024 10:38:18 GMT -5
Not really sure how this effects me as a fan. I guess I'd be happy to have Theo involved in four years when we're hiring a new chief baseball officer. We did just hire a guy on his recommendation.
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