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Post by bojacksoxfan on Feb 17, 2024 12:44:26 GMT -5
If it's just off his Instagram it sounds like non game, training session hype anyway.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Feb 17, 2024 12:47:18 GMT -5
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Post by chr31ter on Feb 17, 2024 12:51:09 GMT -5
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Post by awalkinthepark on Feb 17, 2024 12:58:45 GMT -5
Like every move Breslow has made and Bloom before him, it is clearly a good move that improves the organization on the margins. You have to think the Red Sox will get some value out of at least one of the pitchers Breslow has brought in. It's a shame the whole has been less than the sum of the parts these last few years though.
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Post by greekgodofpancakes on Feb 17, 2024 13:00:40 GMT -5
This is the type of move I expected Chaim to make. Build for the future. I, for one, have no problem punting a season or two, if I'm told they are building for the future. The frustrating part of the last few years is that's what they looked to be doing, but not saying it and not trading the veteran for the prospects. Now that they've told me that's what they are doing (after the TW gaff), I can get behind the kids. Great trade for Breslow and I'm full throttle to see this rebuild.
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Post by costpet on Feb 17, 2024 13:08:31 GMT -5
But, Henry just saved $1.1 million on the trade. That's the important part.
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Post by asm18 on Feb 17, 2024 13:10:15 GMT -5
For the Sox - does this prelude say, a Ryne Stanek signing, or Wincowski staying in the bullpen (as opposed to being a AAA starter)?
For the Royals - did they not see Mauricio Llovera was available on waivers a month ago and looked just as good as Schrieber (who himself was a waiver claim) towards the end of last year?
EDIT: was curious if their stats matched the eye test. Schrieber in the second half: 29.2 IP, 4.85 ERA, 32 K, 17 BB, 5 HR
Llovera in the second half: 33 IP, 5.18 ERA, 26 K, 15 BB, 3 HR
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Post by Oregon Norm on Feb 17, 2024 13:20:02 GMT -5
Like every move Breslow has made and Bloom before him, it is clearly a good move that improves the organization on the margins. You have to think the Red Sox will get some value out of at least one of the pitchers Breslow has brought in. It's a shame the whole has been less than the sum of the parts these last few years though. The whole was doing well enough till the old parts blew out... that's last year as the team started in seriously on a rebuild. This trade punches the FO's pitching ticket one more time and it already had a bunch of holes on it.
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Post by bettsonmookie on Feb 17, 2024 13:22:32 GMT -5
I liked Schreiber to fill in for Martin/Jansen when they are both inevitably dealt before the end of the year.
But they are dealing from arguably their biggest area of strength (RH middle relief pitching) and adding to an area that is arguably their biggest deficiency.
If the experts like Sandlin, I like him. Would enjoy seeing this same type of move several times over in pursuit of the revamped pitching pipeline the organization desperately needs.
Also - another data point in the sample pool of Breslow acquired pitching prospects - which will be fun to track.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Feb 17, 2024 13:23:09 GMT -5
Good move. I'll be anxious to see Sandlin pitch in Portland, perhaps as soon as this summer. Before transferring to Oklahoma he struck out 100 in 65 innings for Eastern Oklahoma State college in 2021. So he does have an impressive track record collegiatly and early pro.
This move helps facilitate Mata, Slaten and Cambell being part of the 2024 team. At least with Cambell and Slaten, I have to belive that is what Breslow has in mind.
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Post by RedSoxStats on Feb 17, 2024 13:33:26 GMT -5
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Post by stevedillard on Feb 17, 2024 13:33:28 GMT -5
Another way to look at this is what a great draft for KC to get a valuable (top 20 in system) trade chit in the 11th round. Not a lot of comparable guys outside top 10 round picks in Sox 2019-2022 drafts. Hunter Dobbins, 8th round? Isaac Coffey, 10th round, Marquis Johnson 11th round? Not quite as highly regarded.
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Post by bettsonmookie on Feb 17, 2024 13:40:14 GMT -5
Where is expectation for Sandlin to slot into rankings?
Behind Fitts but ahead of Monegro, Dobbins, etc.?
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Post by soxin8 on Feb 17, 2024 13:48:44 GMT -5
just remembered that we're not going to end up with Monaco long term and now my day is ruined I called nesn last March to say I and many of my friends really like Monaco and hope to hear him do more broadcasts. Sorry I didn't have more influence. Crazy to think the Sox may have received their best starting prospect for Schreiber.
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Post by julyanmorley on Feb 17, 2024 13:54:29 GMT -5
Another way to look at this is what a great draft for KC to get a valuable (top 20 in system) trade chit in the 11th round. Not a lot of comparable guys outside top 10 round picks in Sox 2019-2022 drafts. Hunter Dobbins, 8th round? Isaac Coffey, 10th round, Marquis Johnson 11th round? Not quite as highly regarded. They did give him what would've been 5th round slot money.
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Post by julyanmorley on Feb 17, 2024 14:11:13 GMT -5
Where is expectation for Sandlin to slot into rankings? Behind Fitts but ahead of Monegro, Dobbins, etc.? #13 sounds about right to me.
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Post by puzzler on Feb 17, 2024 14:20:01 GMT -5
just remembered that we're not going to end up with Monaco long term and now my day is ruined I called nesn last March to say I and many of my friends really like Monaco and hope to hear him do more broadcasts. Sorry I didn't have more influence. Crazy to think the Sox may have received their best starting prospect for Schreiber. I'm on the other side. I can't stand Monaco - he's annoyingly young and plays footsie with the color guys too much. I prefer a play by play guy who keeps the broadcast on track - he ain't it. Like, that's just my opinion man.
I don't think this guy should rate higher than Perales or Gonzalez.
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Post by julyanmorley on Feb 17, 2024 14:21:10 GMT -5
Some more good comments if you click around the replies
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Post by shagworthy on Feb 17, 2024 14:33:36 GMT -5
It's not a bad move, but it further cements everyone's lament of the offseason that 2024 is going to be a lost year. As others have stated, had they been open and honest with us I would feel a bit more altruistic about their station. I'd have to go back to the mid-90's to remember a club I felt less pull towards and even the visage of spring, which usually fires me up after the doldrums of winter has failed to motivate me.
I'll watch the games, purely out of habit, the same way I drink a 6 pack of beer, but I don't expect to find much joy from it this year.
I guess the hope is for some 2013 magic, but I still don't see the same personality on this club. Gomes (as annoying as he can be), and Ortiz's larger than life presence, with the ornery Lackey and the stud kid Lester holding down the staff.
I'm struggling to feel even meh. Hope the kids do well and earn their keep.
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Post by badfishnbc on Feb 17, 2024 14:36:44 GMT -5
Love this trade for the Sox but I also think I understand what the Royals are doing. If Schreiber bounces backs and the Royals aren’t in contention, he’s a great deadline trade candidate.
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Post by radiohix on Feb 17, 2024 14:40:16 GMT -5
Love this trade.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 17, 2024 14:45:40 GMT -5
Love this trade for the Sox but I also think I understand what the Royals are doing. If Schreiber bounces backs and the Royals aren’t in contention, he’s a great deadline trade candidate. Maybe they can trade him for somebody like Sandlin Kidding aside, while the Royals are upgrading their roster with average-ish type players they have increased their ability to bring more talent into the organization if they're still just a 75 win caliber team via deadline trades. That's something the Sox could have spent some money on, short term help who could be dealt at the deadline if need be. In a sense that might be the best thing they can hope to get with the Giolito signing, that he pitches reasonably well and they're able to cash him in at the deadline instead if him going elsewhere in 2025. Of course if Giolito struggles he'll be a Red Sox in 2025.
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Post by Smittyw on Feb 17, 2024 14:47:19 GMT -5
I've loved all of Breslow's trades individually. Confused/bummed about the bigger picture (at least for 2024), though.
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Post by alnipper on Feb 17, 2024 15:28:01 GMT -5
A proven slightly above average with 3 years of team control for a high A pitcher whose 3rd best pitch is a rarely used is a fair trade to me. To me it is an ok tread. If you read more scouting reports you'll understand my point of view. I don't understand why KC made the trade considering they have 0 chance at a World Series. I hope Sandlin reaches his upside. Was Schreiber over used like most relievers?
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Post by sxfan on Feb 17, 2024 15:33:08 GMT -5
For the Sox - does this prelude say, a Ryne Stanek signing, or Wincowski staying in the bullpen (as opposed to being a AAA starter)? For the Royals - did they not see Mauricio Llovera was available on waivers a month ago and looked just as good as Schrieber (who himself was a waiver claim) towards the end of last year? EDIT: was curious if their stats matched the eye test. Schrieber in the second half: 29.2 IP, 4.85 ERA, 32 K, 17 BB, 5 HR Llovera in the second half: 33 IP, 5.18 ERA, 26 K, 15 BB, 3 HR Didn't Stanek just sign with the Rays?
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