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Post by julyanmorley on Mar 21, 2024 21:05:26 GMT -5
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Post by incandenza on Mar 21, 2024 21:11:23 GMT -5
Oh man. This scandal is beginning to enter into Coen brothers territory.
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Post by bluechip on Mar 22, 2024 7:05:32 GMT -5
Ohtani has some understanding of English. He has given several acceptance speeches in English. I appreciate that he would prefer to use a translator for many conversations and especially for important conversations like this. But are they claiming Ohtani did not know that Mizuhara was blatantly mistranslating what he said?
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Post by manfred on Mar 22, 2024 8:14:46 GMT -5
I am going to let the Ohtani stuff play out and just hope he comes out clean. If not, it would be such a horrible blow to baseball that I don’t even want to think about it.
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Post by julyanmorley on Mar 22, 2024 8:49:58 GMT -5
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Post by 0ap0 on Mar 22, 2024 9:45:17 GMT -5
I am going to let the Ohtani stuff play out and just hope he comes out clean. If not, it would be such a horrible blow to baseball that I don’t even want to think about it. Agreed. And I'd settle for "clean enough". So long as none of it was betting against his own team I'm okay with sweeping it under the rug.
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Post by julyanmorley on Mar 22, 2024 12:36:15 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Mar 22, 2024 12:47:10 GMT -5
lol Red Sox urgently correcting some Wikipedia misinformation
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Post by Oregon Norm on Mar 22, 2024 13:27:08 GMT -5
I read about that so-called relationship early this morning. For the uninformed, Wikipedia has often been used for spin control. Since it's open to anyone it can quickly be corrected also. The back fence denizens never stops chattering so critical thinking is always in order.
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Post by badfishnbc on Mar 22, 2024 13:49:56 GMT -5
lol Red Sox urgently correcting some Wikipedia misinformation The fact that some in the media are bending over backwards to loops the Red Sox into this has the same energy as the recent news story about the transgressions of "former Patriot Antonio Brown."
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Post by patford on Mar 22, 2024 14:23:23 GMT -5
lol Red Sox urgently correcting some Wikipedia misinformation The fact that some in the media are bending over backwards to loops the Red Sox into this has the same energy as the recent news story about the transgressions of "former Patriot Antonio Brown." It's pretty much certain if this involved the Red Sox there would already be multiple suspensions and the team would sacrifice all it's draft picks for 20 years.
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Post by grandsalami on Mar 22, 2024 17:22:54 GMT -5
something something something Friday Night news dump (especially given the other (NON BASEBALL) news that broke today
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Post by julyanmorley on Mar 22, 2024 17:32:46 GMT -5
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Post by patford on Mar 22, 2024 17:38:14 GMT -5
something something something Friday Night news dump (especially given the other (NON BASEBALL) news that broke today MLB obviously has to do some kind of investigation but it's really the FBI which is doing the investigation and has been all along.
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Post by incandenza on Mar 22, 2024 20:48:29 GMT -5
I take note of the last paragraph: the basic fact of the matter is that $4.5 million was transferred from Ohtani's account to a bookie. Occam's razor leans in the direction that Ohtani was gambling.
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Post by sxfan on Mar 22, 2024 21:05:11 GMT -5
Old Time Sox fans, why did Pete Rose get the lifetime ban with MLB for betting?
There's rules against bookies in MLB, even against other sports, they have explicit rules against it exclusively.
Everyone is worried about the only betting situation in MLB that's ever happened. I don't blame them. Pete Rose has been banned for 35 years and he's the all time hit MLB leader.
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Post by jbuttah on Mar 22, 2024 21:11:19 GMT -5
Old Time Sox fans, why did Pete Rose get the lifetime ban with MLB for betting? There's rules against bookies in MLB, even against other sports, they have explicit rules against it exclusively. Everyone is worried about the only betting situation in MLB that's ever happened. I don't blame them. Pete Rose has been banned for 35 years and he's the all time hit MLB leader. I'd put the odds of Ohtani as the bettor at -400.
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Post by asm18 on Mar 22, 2024 21:28:54 GMT -5
I take note of the last paragraph: the basic fact of the matter is that $4.5 million was transferred from Ohtani's account to a bookie. Occam's razor leans in the direction that Ohtani was gambling. For those with a banking background, how exactly would a person steal money via wiring from someone else’s account, which is what Ohtani’s people seem to be alleging? Life if I use a shady ATM to withdraw 100 bucks my bank will text me to make sure it’s me - how would Ohtani not get notified about 4.5 MILLION dollars in bank transfers? Ippei was an interpreter, not an accountant?
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Post by maxwellsdemon on Mar 22, 2024 21:29:18 GMT -5
I take note of the last paragraph: the basic fact of the matter is that $4.5 million was transferred from Ohtani's account to a bookie. Occam's razor leans in the direction that Ohtani was gambling. Not only that , but it is an long and honorable tradition in Japan for a an close confident to commit seppuku in defense of the master's and reputation. It's not only the Japanese of course, however, their tradition may be the most well known. ETA: This will definitely resurface the Pete Rose "problem" which could lead to his acceptance into the HOF...or there is going to be some really fast tap dancing to keep Ohtani on the field.
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 22, 2024 21:53:45 GMT -5
Ohtani is done baby, that motherf**er is getting jail time. Time for Blaze Jordan to rise to his place as the new face of baseball.
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Post by patford on Mar 22, 2024 22:13:54 GMT -5
I take note of the last paragraph: the basic fact of the matter is that $4.5 million was transferred from Ohtani's account to a bookie. Occam's razor leans in the direction that Ohtani was gambling. For those with a banking background, how exactly would a person steal money via wiring from someone else’s account, which is what Ohtani’s people seem to be alleging? Life if I use a shady ATM to withdraw 100 bucks my bank will text me to make sure it’s me - how would Ohtani not get notified about 4.5 MILLION dollars in bank transfers? Ippei was an interpreter, not an accountant? One can only assume he was so immersed in the financial tax issues connected to the State he was determined to live in (when he could have gone anywhere else) that he was too busy to pay any attention at all to his bank account for many many months.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Mar 22, 2024 22:40:37 GMT -5
I take note of the last paragraph: the basic fact of the matter is that $4.5 million was transferred from Ohtani's account to a bookie. Occam's razor leans in the direction that Ohtani was gambling. For those with a banking background, how exactly would a person steal money via wiring from someone else’s account, which is what Ohtani’s people seem to be alleging? Life if I use a shady ATM to withdraw 100 bucks my bank will text me to make sure it’s me - how would Ohtani not get notified about 4.5 MILLION dollars in bank transfers? Ippei was an interpreter, not an accountant? If you read Silver's piece, he explains it clearly. His relationship with the interpreter was very close, very personal. If he trusted him enough to have him acting as a personal secretary with access to the account, that's all it would take.
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Post by patford on Mar 22, 2024 22:57:54 GMT -5
For those with a banking background, how exactly would a person steal money via wiring from someone else’s account, which is what Ohtani’s people seem to be alleging? Life if I use a shady ATM to withdraw 100 bucks my bank will text me to make sure it’s me - how would Ohtani not get notified about 4.5 MILLION dollars in bank transfers? Ippei was an interpreter, not an accountant? If you read Silver's piece, he explains it clearly. His relationship with the interpreter was very close, very personal. If he trusted him enough to have him acting as a personal secretary with access to the account, that's all it would take. It would take more than that. It would also mean Ohtani never looks online at his bank accounts or on paper and does not have an accountant or any sort of financial advisors. It's not as if Ohtani seems to be completely uninterested in money.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Mar 22, 2024 23:06:06 GMT -5
Old Time Sox fans, why did Pete Rose get the lifetime ban with MLB for betting? There's rules against bookies in MLB, even against other sports, they have explicit rules against it exclusively. Everyone is worried about the only betting situation in MLB that's ever happened. I don't blame them. Pete Rose has been banned for 35 years and he's the all time hit MLB leader. Rose knowingly bet on baseball and was suspected to have bet on games he managed. Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln...
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Post by asm18 on Mar 22, 2024 23:07:30 GMT -5
For those with a banking background, how exactly would a person steal money via wiring from someone else’s account, which is what Ohtani’s people seem to be alleging? Life if I use a shady ATM to withdraw 100 bucks my bank will text me to make sure it’s me - how would Ohtani not get notified about 4.5 MILLION dollars in bank transfers? Ippei was an interpreter, not an accountant? If you read Silver's piece, he explains it clearly. His relationship with the interpreter was very close, very personal. If he trusted him enough to have him acting as a personal secretary with access to the account, that's all it would take. I get that part - but like for a banking institution, aren’t there any steps they would take at this level of transaction to verify its authenticity? Ohtani I would have to imagine has to a money manager, even if that is a separate person from his bank. No one saw the multitude of $500,000 dollar payments to some obscure bank account and bothered to double check? That’s what I don’t understand, but I’m no finance guy.
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