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4/1-4/3 Red Sox @ Athletics Series Thread
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Post by vermontsox1 on Apr 1, 2024 7:28:47 GMT -5
4/1 Red Sox (RHP Tanner Houck, 6-10, 5.01, 106.0 IP, 99K:41BB*) @ Athletics (RHP Joe Boyle, 2-0, 1.69, 16.0 IP, 15K:5BB*) 9:40 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 4/2 Red Sox (RHP Brayan Bello, 1-0, 3.60, 5.0 IP, 2K:0BB) @ Athletics (LHP Alex Wood, 0-1, 16.20, 3.1 IP, 3K:1BB) 9:40 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 4/3 Red Sox (RHP Nick Pivetta, 0-1, 1.50, 6.0 IP, 10K:0BB) @ Athletics (RHP Ross Stripling, 0-1, 7.20, 5.0 IP, 6K:2BB) 3:37 pm ET, NESN/WEEI *2023 stats MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2024: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by 1toolplayer on Apr 1, 2024 8:18:01 GMT -5
Boyle is a really intriguing matchup for tonight. The stuff is legit, and he added a new sweeper, but the command was always a question in the minors and after not showing those issues in his Sept SSS debut, he walked 15 this spring. This could be a breakout night for the offense, or a frustratingly "how did they leave 12 runners on and lose 3-2?"night
I think they'll score 4 in the 1st inning and be off in running, though
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Post by nomar on Apr 1, 2024 8:24:05 GMT -5
Boyle is a really intriguing matchup for tonight. The stuff is legit, and he added a new sweeper, but the command was always a question in the minors and after not showing those issues in his Sept SSS debut, he walked 15 this spring. This could be a breakout night for the offense, or a frustratingly "how did they leave 12 runners on and lose 3-2?"night I think they'll score 4 in the 1st inning and be off in running, though His fangraphs page looks like Brody Brecht at home for Oakland |
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Apr 1, 2024 8:38:47 GMT -5
Boyle had a nice cup of coffee last September but he's had a grand total of 6 appearances, all starts, above AA.
In 27 AA starts, split between 2022 and 2023, he had a 4.81 ERA, and a 1.6 WHIP on 96 hits and 107 BB in 127.1 IP. Also 181 K (good for 12.8/9). Seems like the poster boy for big stuff but don't chase him out of the zone. Keeps the ball in the yard, though.
He had 19 K and 16 BB in 18.1 IP this spring, so it's not like he's turned a corner...
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Apr 1, 2024 8:45:14 GMT -5
No pressure, Tanner, but all anyone can talk about is how incredibly well your four rotation-mates pitched in their first turn.
Was Houck even in Texas and Seattle or did he stay in the Fort and meet the club in Oakland?
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 1, 2024 8:52:41 GMT -5
Awaken the bats in this series!
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Post by manfred on Apr 1, 2024 9:54:20 GMT -5
Any word on Jansen’s status? This is going to be one of those years with him, isn’t it?
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Post by cheers on Apr 1, 2024 10:33:14 GMT -5
Any word on Jansen’s status? This is going to be one of those years with him, isn’t it? He was up in the pen last night (dunno how hard he was throwing), so guessing he is available today? |
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 1, 2024 10:58:15 GMT -5
The Andrew Bailey effect.
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 1, 2024 10:59:42 GMT -5
With most MLB starters having gone once so far Pivetta is T-1st in Pitching+, Whitlock 16th, Crawford 21st, Bello 45th
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Post by vokuhila on Apr 1, 2024 11:23:10 GMT -5
Boyle is a really intriguing matchup for tonight. The stuff is legit, and he added a new sweeper, but the command was always a question in the minors and after not showing those issues in his Sept SSS debut, he walked 15 this spring. This could be a breakout night for the offense, or a frustratingly "how did they leave 12 runners on and lose 3-2?"night I think they'll score 4 in the 1st inning and be off in running, though Longenhagen grades Boyle's command as 20...never seen that before |
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Post by scottysmalls on Apr 1, 2024 11:28:21 GMT -5
The Andrew Bailey effect. Some of this is also apparently game plan specific as Seattle struggles against offspeed moreso than most teams, or so I read. Curious to see if much changes during the Oakland series. |
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Post by patford on Apr 1, 2024 11:34:30 GMT -5
The Andrew Bailey effect. Wow even the difference between SF at 29 and Boston at 30 is huge. Makes me wonder if the 4 seam fastball is going to become a thing of the past unless the pitcher has an absolutely incredible FB hitters even in the minor leagues can catch up to one. There are hitters who can't hit a FB but they probably don't belong in MLB. The thing about emphasizing velocity reminds me of what Warren Buffet said about standing up at a concert. You get a better view until everyone is doing it. Or you could maybe compare it to a kid playing video games. My son got really good at a game called Tetris where things go faster and faster requiring almost instant decisions and he got to where he could unlock the dancing Russians using one finger while eating a doughnut with his other hand. |
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 1, 2024 11:57:36 GMT -5
One thing that kinda sucks about this era of baseball is elite fastballs look exactly the same as meh fastballs to the naked eye
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Post by notstarboard on Apr 1, 2024 12:41:21 GMT -5
One thing that kinda sucks about this era of baseball is elite fastballs look exactly the same as meh fastballs to the naked eye 24" IVB 😳 |
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Post by manfred on Apr 1, 2024 13:53:34 GMT -5
One thing that kinda sucks about this era of baseball is elite fastballs look exactly the same as meh fastballs to the naked eye Best way to tell the difference? How fast are they going the other way. |
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Post by bluechip on Apr 1, 2024 14:48:05 GMT -5
Boyle is a really intriguing matchup for tonight. The stuff is legit, and he added a new sweeper, but the command was always a question in the minors and after not showing those issues in his Sept SSS debut, he walked 15 this spring. This could be a breakout night for the offense, or a frustratingly "how did they leave 12 runners on and lose 3-2?"night I think they'll score 4 in the 1st inning and be off in running, though Longenhagen grades Boyle's command as 20...never seen that before Look at his 2022 walk numbers. Guys walking that many batters at AA, usually do not make AAA, never mind the majors. I expect Casas and Yoshida to collectively have 5 walks. |
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 1, 2024 14:50:08 GMT -5
It would never happen but I'd love to see a team just straight up not swing at this guy and see how many people he would walk anyway.
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Post by vokuhila on Apr 1, 2024 14:58:21 GMT -5
I saw the numbers...but a 20 grade...that feels almost cartoonishly bad. What does he tell his catcher?
"the only thing i can tell you about the location of my next pitch is: it is not going wherever you put your glove" or "don't bother putting your glove down, i wont hit it anyways"
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 1, 2024 15:03:48 GMT -5
I saw the numbers...but a 20 grade...that feels almost cartoonishly bad. What does he tell his catcher? "the only thing i can tell you about the location of my next pitch is: it is not going wherever you put your glove" or "don't bother putting your glove down, i wont hit it anyways" A 20 grade on the scale of 20-80 scouting feels like it'd be more rare than an 80 grade. I could see a HS pitcher coming in with a 20 grade on their control but a major leaguer? Crazy that he's managed to make the majors even if for the A's. |
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Post by soxfanatic on Apr 1, 2024 15:15:14 GMT -5
Sweep or bust!
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Post by asm18 on Apr 1, 2024 15:17:01 GMT -5
I saw the numbers...but a 20 grade...that feels almost cartoonishly bad. What does he tell his catcher? "the only thing i can tell you about the location of my next pitch is: it is not going wherever you put your glove" or "don't bother putting your glove down, i wont hit it anyways" Ceddane has been productive despite his improved plate discipline from the spring just disappearing the moment he got to Seattle, but they might need to give him an edible before tonight if the A’s pitcher is that wild before he swings at like eight fastballs that are all nowhere near the plate |
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Post by itinerantherb on Apr 1, 2024 15:18:34 GMT -5
I saw the numbers...but a 20 grade...that feels almost cartoonishly bad. What does he tell his catcher? "the only thing i can tell you about the location of my next pitch is: it is not going wherever you put your glove" or "don't bother putting your glove down, i wont hit it anyways" A 20 grade on the scale of 20-80 scouting feels like it'd be more rare than an 80 grade. I could see a HS pitcher coming in with a 20 grade on their control but a major leaguer? Crazy that he's managed to make the majors even if for the A's. The college and minor league K/BB numbers are pretty . . . uh . . . wild. www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=boyle-000joe |
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 1, 2024 15:44:40 GMT -5
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Post by Smittyw on Apr 1, 2024 15:54:10 GMT -5
We're laughing, but if a guy made the majors with 20 control, well, I'm kind of impressed. What an inspiration.
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