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Post by grandsalami on Apr 8, 2024 17:02:03 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Apr 8, 2024 17:05:53 GMT -5
Goodnight, sweet prince.
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Post by sxfan on Apr 8, 2024 17:11:27 GMT -5
Finally.
I'll guess by this time next year Dalbec will be competing against Franchy Cordero for the home run record in Japan.
Come on down Romy Gonzalez.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Apr 8, 2024 19:50:52 GMT -5
Sad for him. Wanted him to do well so very much. Oh well...
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Post by sarasoxer on Apr 8, 2024 20:12:33 GMT -5
Sad for him. Wanted him to do well so very much. Oh well... Yup. I believe that he is a good person and teammate. I always liked him...Once the league adjusted and exploited his holes, it seems that he became a AAAA player. In my mind his swing was so long that it caused early decisions on pitches that cleared the zone. Up and in with heat was another hole. What if he had consistently choked up on the bat...give him more reaction time? Hell, I we have pics of Williams choking up. Casas will do so. But Willy Mo never bought that either. |
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 8, 2024 21:06:55 GMT -5
Finally. I'll guess by this time next year Dalbec will be competing against Franchy Cordero for the home run record in Japan. Come on down Romy Gonzalez.That there is no better alternative, and yet no mention of it yet, suggests that they are looking into trades. Slim possibility, but due diligence.
Re his tremendous start:he had a very good AA partial season in 2021 (.267 / .355 / .502), was promoted to AAA and hit .344/ .382/ .750 in 9 G / 34 PA. That earned him a promotion to the show, where he had a .617 OPS in 33 PA and was sent down ... where hit .409 / .462 / .636 in 26 PA to season's end.
He spent most of 2022 in AAA and had a .620 OPS ... it seems as if he spent the remainder plus all of 2023 in MLB because the Chisox had nothing better.
Given the recent track record of of the ChiSox, it's perfectly credible that they never figure out the difference between his good version and his bad one, if in fact there is an actual difference rather than a hot / cold thing. I think we're all prepped to find out. |
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Post by manfred on Apr 8, 2024 21:13:17 GMT -5
Well, Bobby likely ends his Boston career at -.1 bWAR, and making about $1.5 million. I feel bad for him that it didn’t work, but given his shortcomings, I’m glad he clocked as much MLB rime as he did.
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Post by bishop on Apr 8, 2024 21:18:54 GMT -5
Finally. I'll guess by this time next year Dalbec will be competing against Franchy Cordero for the home run record in Japan. Come on down Romy Gonzalez.That there is no better alternative, and yet no mention of it yet, suggests that they are looking into trades. Slim possibility, but due diligence.
Re his tremendous start:he had a very good AA partial season in 2021 (.267 / .355 / .502), was promoted to AAA and hit .344/ .382/ .750 in 9 G / 34 PA. That earned him a promotion to the show, where he had a .617 OPS in 33 PA and was sent down ... where hit .409 / .462 / .636 in 26 PA to season's end.
He spent most of 2022 in AAA and had a .620 OPS ... it seems as if he spent the remainder plus all of 2023 in MLB because the Chisox had nothing better.
Given the recent track record of of the ChiSox, it's perfectly credible that they never figure out the difference between his good version and his bad one, if in fact there is an actual difference rather than a hot / cold thing. I think we're all prepped to find out. I hope you're right and I'm wrong on Romy, but it's not the .600 OPS across 3 seasons of intermittent at bats that makes me skeptical, it's the 2.1% BB rate and 36.0% K rate. Hope I'm wrong and we or he identified something, either way he adds positional flexibility. Hope Bobby finds it again too, don't think it's gonna happen in Boston but the WooSox could use some thump in that lineup. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 8, 2024 21:29:09 GMT -5
That there is no better alternative, and yet no mention of it yet, suggests that they are looking into trades. Slim possibility, but due diligence. Re his tremendous start:he had a very good AA partial season in 2021 (.267 / .355 / .502), was promoted to AAA and hit .344/ .382/ .750 in 9 G / 34 PA. That earned him a promotion to the show, where he had a .617 OPS in 33 PA and was sent down ... where hit .409 / .462 / .636 in 26 PA to season's end. He spent most of 2022 in AAA and had a .620 OPS ... it seems as if he spent the remainder plus all of 2023 in MLB because the Chisox had nothing better. Given the recent track record of of the ChiSox, it's perfectly credible that they never figure out the difference between his good version and his bad one, if in fact there is an actual difference rather than a hot / cold thing. I think we're all prepped to find out. I hope you're right and I'm wrong on Romy, but it's not the .600 OPS across 3 seasons of intermittent at bats that makes me skeptical, it's the 2.1% BB rate and 36.0% K rate. Hope I'm wrong and we or he identified something, either way he adds positional flexibility. Hope Bobby finds it again too, don't think it's gonna happen in Boston but the WooSox could use some thump in that lineup. That's the weird thing. I thought that was a chronic problem that he has always had, but in the minors he drew some walks. So why is he so horrible in the majors when given a chance when it comes to BB/K? |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Apr 8, 2024 21:43:12 GMT -5
I hope you're right and I'm wrong on Romy, but it's not the .600 OPS across 3 seasons of intermittent at bats that makes me skeptical, it's the 2.1% BB rate and 36.0% K rate. Hope I'm wrong and we or he identified something, either way he adds positional flexibility. Hope Bobby finds it again too, don't think it's gonna happen in Boston but the WooSox could use some thump in that lineup. That's the weird thing. I thought that was a chronic problem that he has always had, but in the minors he drew some walks. So why is he so horrible in the majors when given a chance when it comes to BB/K? No matter the pitcher, no matter the ump, it seemed Bobby started every single PA at 0-2. If it was near the plate; STRIKE. Might be my imagination, but it sure seemed that way. |
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Post by cdj on Apr 8, 2024 22:05:01 GMT -5
I hope you're right and I'm wrong on Romy, but it's not the .600 OPS across 3 seasons of intermittent at bats that makes me skeptical, it's the 2.1% BB rate and 36.0% K rate. Hope I'm wrong and we or he identified something, either way he adds positional flexibility. Hope Bobby finds it again too, don't think it's gonna happen in Boston but the WooSox could use some thump in that lineup. That's the weird thing. I thought that was a chronic problem that he has always had, but in the minors he drew some walks. So why is he so horrible in the majors when given a chance when it comes to BB/K? Gap between a good big league pitcher and a good AAA pitcher is huge (as we’ve seen plenty with our org), the big leaguer has the stuff and command to better exploit Dalbec’s glaring weakness |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Apr 8, 2024 22:41:49 GMT -5
That's the weird thing. I thought that was a chronic problem that he has always had, but in the minors he drew some walks. So why is he so horrible in the majors when given a chance when it comes to BB/K? No matter the pitcher, no matter the ump, it seemed Bobby started every single PA at 0-2. If it was near the plate; STRIKE. Might be my imagination, but it sure seemed that way. Was talking about Romy Gonzalez, not Bobby Dalbec. |
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Post by asm18 on Apr 8, 2024 22:55:40 GMT -5
Romy has played 417 MLB innings at 2B in his career, like 85 in the OF, and less than 50 at other infield spots. Are we about to see a double L/R middle-infield platoon until they figure what they want do with Rafaela (or when Grissom returns?) That would be uh… something.
Vs R - SS Hamilton 2B Valdez
Vs L - SS Reyes 2B Romy
Just a bummer that Bobby went from a fun if very flawed player to just unplayable. You’d like to think if you replayed his career over again there’s a universe where he’s an effective bench or platoon guy, but it just never clicked after 2021.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Apr 9, 2024 5:55:35 GMT -5
That there is no better alternative, and yet no mention of it yet, suggests that they are looking into trades. Slim possibility, but due diligence. Chris Henrique reported Gonzalez was being recalled yesterday and we'd heard the same. Regardless, in these situations, they always wait to announce the recall until the next day - it's not a sign they're looking for something else. If there's no off day, they announce the demotion after the game and the recall day of the next. Here, with the off day, they announced Dalbec down on the off day and will announce Gonzalez today. Standard procedure. I think, among other things, it's one less day of a guy counting against the CBT, although that's probably not the reason. |
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 9, 2024 10:46:20 GMT -5
Romy has played 417 MLB innings at 2B in his career, like 85 in the OF, and less than 50 at other infield spots. Are we about to see a double L/R middle-infield platoon until they figure what they want do with Rafaela (or when Grissom returns?) That would be uh… something. Vs R - SS Hamilton 2B Valdez Vs L - SS Reyes 2B Romy Just a bummer that Bobby went from a fun if very flawed player to just unplayable. You’d like to think if you replayed his career over again there’s a universe where he’s an effective bench or platoon guy, but it just never clicked after 2021. It is very difficult to stay sharp with limited playing time, which is why it frustrates me so much that people are always so ready to move Refsnyder for someone with more perceived upside. Dalbec is an easy guy to like - good work ethic, good teammate, all of that stuff. It stinks that it hasn't worked out for him, but it's really hard to see him getting another chance in Boston and equally hard to see it working. Since the start of 2021, he's hit just .225/.287/.427 - and what's even more difficult is that almost all of that production came inside of a 32-game stretch from 8/11/21 to 9/21/21 where he hit .333/.434/.814 in 118 PA. Outside of that stretch, he's hit .209/.265/.370 with 281 strikeouts in 690 PA. The flaws have always been there, but major league pitchers have also largely succeeded in limiting his power production, which is really what's made him so ineffective. |
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Post by jimoh on Apr 9, 2024 14:59:43 GMT -5
Romy has played 417 MLB innings at 2B in his career, like 85 in the OF, and less than 50 at other infield spots. Are we about to see a double L/R middle-infield platoon until they figure what they want do with Rafaela (or when Grissom returns?) That would be uh… something. Vs R - SS Hamilton 2B Valdez Vs L - SS Reyes 2B Romy Just a bummer that Bobby went from a fun if very flawed player to just unplayable. You’d like to think if you replayed his career over again there’s a universe where he’s an effective bench or platoon guy, but it just never clicked after 2021. It is very difficult to stay sharp with limited playing time, which is why it frustrates me so much that people are always so ready to move Refsnyder for someone with more perceived upside. Dalbec is an easy guy to like - good work ethic, good teammate, all of that stuff. It stinks that it hasn't worked out for him, but it's really hard to see him getting another chance in Boston and equally hard to see it working. Since the start of 2021, he's hit just .225/.287/.427 - and what's even more difficult is that almost all of that production came inside of a 32-game stretch from 8/11/21 to 9/21/21 where he hit .333/.434/.814 in 118 PA. Outside of that stretch, he's hit .209/.265/.370 with 281 strikeouts in 690 PA. The flaws have always been there, but major league pitchers have also largely succeeded in limiting his power production, which is really what's made him so ineffective. And remember, after that hot streak in 2021, he went 2 for 21 with 2 hr, 0 BB and 10 k for the rest of the season, then in the post-season Dalbec went 0 for 12 with 0 BB and 5 Ks. Amazing hot streak following by an amazing cold streak. |
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Apr 9, 2024 17:18:53 GMT -5
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Post by patford on Apr 9, 2024 17:37:24 GMT -5
Dalbec will be picked up by the Rays. Hit .217 with 47 HR and 93 RBI.
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Post by rkarp on Apr 10, 2024 12:21:01 GMT -5
seems Grissom is getting close, so Romy most likely short lived
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Post by 0ap0 on Apr 10, 2024 12:57:24 GMT -5
Dalbec will be picked up by the Rays. Hit .217 with 47 HR and 93 RBI. I'd love to see it. |
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Post by bos834 on Apr 12, 2024 12:18:54 GMT -5
After 1 home run, the big league club welcomes him back!
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Post by Guidas on Apr 12, 2024 12:56:15 GMT -5
After 1 home run, the big league club welcomes him back! He will now CARRY this team to the playoffs. |
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Post by hank on Apr 16, 2024 14:28:53 GMT -5
Bobby looks awful at the plate. He actually looks scared up there. Not scared of being hit just seems to bring a sense of doom with him. To make matters worse it seems every close pitch is called a strike. Bobby swings at balls and takes strikes which is weird because he actually knows the strike zone pretty well. Sad. He's completely lost his confidence at the MLB level. Kind of looks like end career Bob Montgomery.
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Post by asm18 on Apr 17, 2024 9:22:02 GMT -5
Bobby 2023-2024 (so far) - 73 plate appearances, 40 strikeouts, .147 AVG, 1 HR.
Position players who have been placed on waivers over the last month or so:
Tony Kemp (2B/OF)
Livan Soto (SS)
Taylor Trammell (OF)
Cooper Hummell
Jose Rodriguez (INF)
At this point is any random position player who happens to be DFA'd better than Dalbec? Like this will never happen, but I'd almost rather just be claiming random dudes off waivers to see if you find something than continuing to roll with this. At this moment Bobby is a warm body who can play 3B with Devers banged up, and that's literally all he's provided. Wouldn't Sogard be able to do that with the flexibility to play some SS?
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 17, 2024 9:55:45 GMT -5
Dalbec is not going anywhere until we learn how long devers is out
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