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Post by Jonathan Singer on May 23, 2013 21:18:45 GMT -5
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Post by amfox1 on May 24, 2013 7:27:46 GMT -5
Won't be Maddox. He went on the DL last night.
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Post by Jonathan Singer on May 24, 2013 11:13:38 GMT -5
Justin Haley will get the start tonight.
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Post by Jonathan Singer on May 24, 2013 12:48:38 GMT -5
Mike Augliera instead of Mike McCarthy tonight.
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Post by amfox1 on May 24, 2013 14:44:12 GMT -5
Won't be Aceves tonight. He was just called up. Webster will start instead.
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Post by ray88h66 on May 24, 2013 14:56:03 GMT -5
All these pitching changes. Can a 30 year old Nolan Ryan please replace Lackey tonight.
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Post by jonasi on May 24, 2013 16:15:21 GMT -5
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Post by lennsakata on May 24, 2013 18:28:08 GMT -5
Mookie with his 8th homerun. Projecting out to about 25 for the full season. I foolishly only had him projected for 20 based on last year.
Almanac with a GS as well
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Post by charliezink16 on May 24, 2013 18:36:49 GMT -5
Mookie with his 8th homerun. Projecting out to about 25 for the full season. I foolishly only had him projected for 20 based on last year. Almanac with a GS as well In the Park GS somehow
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Post by gregblossersbelly on May 24, 2013 18:40:29 GMT -5
Mookie with his 8th homerun. Projecting out to about 25 for the full season. I foolishly only had him projected for 20 based on last year. Almanac with a GS as well Buddy Ryan's famout quote about Cris Carter; "All he does is catch touchdowns." All Mookie does is walk and hit home runs.
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Post by nothingball on May 24, 2013 18:43:01 GMT -5
Mookie is finding his way onto my list of binky's.
Stating this makes me feel like I'm trying to construct a sentence in 1st grade english class..
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Post by iakovos11 on May 24, 2013 18:57:14 GMT -5
Almanzar with a grand slam. I'm assuming it left the park
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Post by charliezink16 on May 24, 2013 19:04:52 GMT -5
Almanzar with a grand slam. I'm assuming it left the park @seadogsradio: All I can say is WOW…Michael Almanzar with inside-the-park grand slam…Portland's second this season (both at Binghamton)…Meneses on 4/16
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Post by iakovos11 on May 24, 2013 19:08:27 GMT -5
My bad, I didn't rad you're earlier post close enough. I thought it meant Mookie hit an inside the parker. Didn't even notice the part about Almanzar
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Post by wskeleton76 on May 24, 2013 19:29:06 GMT -5
Mookie Betts should be a monster.
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Post by southernredsoxality on May 24, 2013 20:17:58 GMT -5
Challenge Mookie, and you shall pay.
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Post by iakovos11 on May 24, 2013 20:28:14 GMT -5
Nick Natoli manning 3rd base tonight for the Sea Dogs . . . . Meanwhile, back in Salem, Cecchini keeps rolling along 1-2, BB, HBP
(to be fair, Natoli is 3-3 and now batting 1.000 in AA)
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 24, 2013 21:15:57 GMT -5
Another scoreless 2.1 innings for Chris Martin tonight.
I went back and looked, and Martin did, in fact, allow a pair of inherited runners to score on May 5 against New Britain. He allowed 2 of 5 IRs to score in AA, and has stranded both in AAA. So there's that. But still, awfully impressive.
I believe strand rate in the SP.com stats, which someone went and looked at at one point, is stranding one's OWN baserunners. Of course, given that he hasn't allowed a run, of course he has a perfect strand rate.
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Post by Guidas on May 24, 2013 21:20:27 GMT -5
Also interesting - 3rd outing in a row I believe where Martin went more than1 inning.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on May 24, 2013 21:28:29 GMT -5
Also interesting - 3rd outing in a row I believe where Martin went more than1 inning. Alfredo Aceves instead of the legend that is Chris Martin. I know. He's not on the 40. That's like asking Chuck Norris if he has a passport when he in fact rules the world. If I were a betting man, I'd also say; Rubby, Ranaudo and Workman end up in MLB bullpens. Throw in Martin and that's a lot of good right-handed arms. Most say Montas projects as a closer too. Have to figure lefties such as; Britton and Brian Johnson are going to have to make it from the pen too. I'm very optomistic about Allen Webster, Barnes and Henry Owens to project as starters.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on May 24, 2013 22:14:17 GMT -5
Also interesting - 3rd outing in a row I believe where Martin went more than1 inning. Alfredo Aceves instead of the legend that is Chris Martin. I know. He's not on the 40. That's like asking Chuck Norris if he has a passport when he in fact rules the world. If I were a betting man, I'd also say; Rubby, Ranaudo and Workman end up in MLB bullpens. Throw in Martin and that's a lot of good right-handed arms. Most say Montas projects as a closer too. Have to figure lefties such as; Britton and Brian Johnson are going to have to make it from the pen too. I'm very optomistic about Allen Webster, Barnes and Henry Owens to project as starters. A strong case could be made for Workman and Ranaudo projecting as starters also. They are big guys who should hold their velocity well and both may have enough stuff to make it as starters IMO. Ruby appears to have the stuff. He may well end up a starter also. Our starting pitching prospects are what sets this farm apart from most of the ones we have had in the past. If we look at controllable years of player value, we might have 2 of these guys make it similar to Buchholz and Lester before we are through, netting over $100 mil in value over 6 years of control out of this group of 6. It's all about 6 years of control and what they can do in that time period. If we get smart and do some appropriate extensions as we did with Buchholz and Lester we get even more value. I don't think there are many farms out there with literally 6 realistic starting pitching prospects of this caliber. And it wouldn't surprise me a bit if we end up with Stewart at #7. That is probably what I would do in the most realistic scenario. If it's him or Frazier I'd take Stewart. We can not trade for top starting pitching prospects in today's game without getting ripped off. And if needed they are great currency in a trade. I'd keep signing top pitching talent. It's our best shot at creating a winner.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 24, 2013 22:50:15 GMT -5
Also interesting - 3rd outing in a row I believe where Martin went more than1 inning. Well, it's his second in a row, but it's not really interesting. He's gone >1.0 ip in 10 of his 15 appearances this year. Last year he made only one appearance out of 23 that was an inning or shorter. Same the year before. He's always been used in long stints.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on May 24, 2013 22:56:02 GMT -5
Alfredo Aceves instead of the legend that is Chris Martin. I know. He's not on the 40. That's like asking Chuck Norris if he has a passport when he in fact rules the world. If I were a betting man, I'd also say; Rubby, Ranaudo and Workman end up in MLB bullpens. Throw in Martin and that's a lot of good right-handed arms. Most say Montas projects as a closer too. Have to figure lefties such as; Britton and Brian Johnson are going to have to make it from the pen too. I'm very optomistic about Allen Webster, Barnes and Henry Owens to project as starters. A strong case could be made for Workman and Ranaudo projecting as starters also. They are big guys who should hold their velocity well and both may have enough stuff to make it as starters IMO. Ruby appears to have the stuff. He may well end up a starter also. Our starting pitching prospects are what sets this farm apart from most of the ones we have had in the past. If we look at controllable years of player value, we might have 2 of these guys make it similar to Buchholz and Lester before we are through, netting over $100 mil in value over 6 years of control out of this group of 6. It's all about 6 years of control and what they can do in that time period. If we get smart and do some appropriate extensions as we did with Buchholz and Lester we get even more value. I don't think there are many farms out there with literally 6 realistic starting pitching prospects of this caliber. And it wouldn't surprise me a bit if we end up with Stewart at #7. That is probably what I would do in the most realistic scenario. If it's him or Frazier I'd take Stewart. We can not trade for top starting pitching prospects in today's game without getting ripped off. And if needed they are great currency in a trade. I'd keep signing top pitching talent. It's our best shot at creating a winner. I'm more worried about Ranaudo's lack of a good secondary pitch than his velocity. They could both certainly make it as starters. Just not sure they have the necessary toolbox.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 25, 2013 1:52:37 GMT -5
A strong case could be made for Workman and Ranaudo projecting as starters also. They are big guys who should hold their velocity well and both may have enough stuff to make it as starters IMO. Ruby appears to have the stuff. He may well end up a starter also. Our starting pitching prospects are what sets this farm apart from most of the ones we have had in the past. If we look at controllable years of player value, we might have 2 of these guys make it similar to Buchholz and Lester before we are through, netting over $100 mil in value over 6 years of control out of this group of 6. It's all about 6 years of control and what they can do in that time period. If we get smart and do some appropriate extensions as we did with Buchholz and Lester we get even more value. I don't think there are many farms out there with literally 6 realistic starting pitching prospects of this caliber. And it wouldn't surprise me a bit if we end up with Stewart at #7. That is probably what I would do in the most realistic scenario. If it's him or Frazier I'd take Stewart. We can not trade for top starting pitching prospects in today's game without getting ripped off. And if needed they are great currency in a trade. I'd keep signing top pitching talent. It's our best shot at creating a winner. I'm more worried about Ranaudo's lack of a good secondary pitch than his velocity. They could both certainly make it as starters. Just not sure they have the necessary toolbox. Then you are neither reading the scouting bio nor listening to the games. Ranaudo has a plus curve that might be the best in the system that he throws for strikes and generates grounders or gets swings and misses when he throws it into the dirt. I've listened to virtually every game Ranaudo has pitched and he's definitely not relying on his fastball as previously reported. His pitch that is still a work in progress is his changeup. It still needs work and he needs to integrate that a lot more into his repertoire (the volume has slowly been creeping up). Just from general listening observation, his control of the change is marginal and command almost non existent. I doubt if Jim Callis would have projected him to be in Boston soon if he was just relying on his fastball and Callis has actually seen him pitch. As things are now, as a prospect, a future of staff ace or bottom of the rotation starter depends on his getting command of that change and his ability to stay healthy. In general, I think people are overly hung up with last year when he pitched all of his innings battling one injury or another. Even his manager was recently quoted as saying forget about last year, it's meaningless. ADD: I wasn't specifically keeping track but today he seemed to have issues getting first pitch strikes which in turn caused a lot of deep counts. That's the first game I noticed that in so, it's not a major concern for me.
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Post by widewordofsport on May 25, 2013 4:21:37 GMT -5
I really think Workman has been great as a pro, and 'want' him to profile as a SP. With those great starts early on, and some talk he had cleaned up his delivery, I thought it may be the case. I think Mellen said he still thinks it isn't clean enough to hold his stuff deep (going 100 pitches instead of 70), and IIRC his stats have borne that out.
He's sort of like Almanzar. Gonna have to force us to take him seriously. IMO, Ranaudo is a SP his whole time in the org (barring a short callup). Too much potential/pedigree... someone will let him start if Boston won't.
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