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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 4, 2013 7:03:42 GMT -5
Tazawa was 94-96. That's the first time this year I have seen that velocity from him. At this year's usual 92-93 he is much more hittable.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 4, 2013 7:43:49 GMT -5
Farrell had good comments today about Webster. Talked about learning on the job, etc. if the team is sticking to the preseason plan, I think he sould be in the rotation to stay, unless its an abject failure. Abject failure would be destroying the bullpen start after start.
If everyone is healthy, it's difficult to pinpoint who to sit from the original 5. Depends how everyone is pitching, but I'd lean towards Doubront. While I like Felix and think he could be a very solid pitcher, I'd rather the starts go to Webster and use Doubront out of the pen. He's a little wild for the pen, but he's wild for anywhere and has power stuff from the left side. He's going to pitch from there in the playoffs so maybe get him used to it starting in August if health and performance of others allows.
Improvements on this team should come from within.
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Post by jdb on Jul 4, 2013 8:03:12 GMT -5
Really looking forward to seeing how Webster performs today. I like the fact they are giving him a few opportunities and not riding that shuttle between AAA and Boston constantly.
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Post by wcp3 on Jul 4, 2013 8:36:35 GMT -5
Tazawa was 94-96. That's the first time this year I have seen that velocity from him. At this year's usual 92-93 he is much more hittable. He's shown that type of velocity plenty of times this year.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 4, 2013 9:01:55 GMT -5
Farrell had good comments today about Webster. Talked about learning on the job, etc. if the team is sticking to the preseason plan, I think he sould be in the rotation to stay, unless its an abject failure. Abject failure would be destroying the bullpen start after start. If everyone is healthy, it's difficult to pinpoint who to sit from the original 5. Depends how everyone is pitching, but I'd lean towards Doubront. While I like Felix and think he could be a very solid pitcher, I'd rather the starts go to Webster and use Doubront out of the pen. He's a little wild for the pen, but he's wild for anywhere and has power stuff from the left side. He's going to pitch from there in the playoffs so maybe get him used to it starting in August if health and performance of others allows. Improvements on this team should come from within. Oh come on, Webster over Doubront? Other than the fact that you'd like to see it. There is no logical reason to do so. Webster goes back to AAA after the ALL-Star break and works on not walking and plunking batters.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 4, 2013 9:18:26 GMT -5
Tazawa was 94-96. That's the first time this year I have seen that velocity from him. At this year's usual 92-93 he is much more hittable. He's shown that type of velocity plenty of times this year. Perhaps so but, as I said, not that I have seen...and I have seen most of the games that he has pitched.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Jul 4, 2013 9:56:50 GMT -5
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Post by bsout2 on Jul 4, 2013 10:07:40 GMT -5
Quick question. Do any publications rank MLB farm systems at the halfway point of the season? It's trivial I know. However looking for a publication to point to in order to show how strong the Red Sox current system is, in order to win an argument.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jul 4, 2013 12:06:42 GMT -5
Thanks for the reference. I don't visit Fangraphs often but when I do.......
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Post by ray88h66 on Jul 4, 2013 12:19:45 GMT -5
A sweep before the long west coast swing would be a beautiful thing, as Eck would say..
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Post by chavopepe2 on Jul 4, 2013 12:48:23 GMT -5
Watching Webster it really looks like the key for him is keeping his nerves in check. His stuff is excellent - some of the best on the staff - but when he overthrows his fastball it flattens out and stays elevated. It was nice to see him get out of the first without trouble, because he left a couple pitches up that were hit hard. I really believe that sticking with him now will pay huge dividends later in the season as he learns to control his nerves.
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Post by ray88h66 on Jul 4, 2013 13:28:15 GMT -5
Hot,humid,wind blowing out,and two pitches leaving a lot of pitches up. Could be a 12 to 10 day. Hope we're the 12.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 4, 2013 14:07:19 GMT -5
Thought this was hilarious... via GameDay: ...of course it was low-octane fuel to begin with.
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Post by jmei on Jul 4, 2013 14:08:07 GMT -5
The Gameday automated scouting reports are routinely hilarious.
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Post by wskeleton76 on Jul 4, 2013 14:16:53 GMT -5
Webster isn't a big league pitcher. His command is so poor.
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Post by ray88h66 on Jul 4, 2013 14:19:09 GMT -5
About 6 inches of green monster was the difference between a 3 run HR and a single. This must be the Sox year.
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Post by threeifbaerga on Jul 4, 2013 14:21:43 GMT -5
Webster isn't a big league pitcher. His command is so poor. I agree, but while past games may have been different he has kept the Padres in check (not exactly saying much, but still) to the point that he isn't going to cost the Sox todays game. When that's the case why not let him work on his command at the big league level?
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Post by GyIantosca on Jul 4, 2013 14:36:19 GMT -5
Happy 4th guys. At least I see more improvement from Webster every time. Can't help to think Ross would help him a lot. Maybe it's better he isn't there he has to make his own decisions also.
Looks like Seguin getting traded. Crazy week.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 4, 2013 14:45:10 GMT -5
Webster isn't a big league pitcher. His command is so poor. Webster has big league stuff, and thanks to the very good position the team finds itself in - but in need of an interim starter - he can work on his command against big league hitters. That's not a bad option as Baerga points out.
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Post by feez732 on Jul 4, 2013 14:53:58 GMT -5
Webster isn't a big league pitcher. His command is so poor. I agree, but while past games may have been different he has kept the Padres in check (not exactly saying much, but still) to the point that he isn't going to cost the Sox todays game. When that's the case why not let him work on his command at the big league level? It doesn't really affect your point, but the Padres when healthy, don't have a bad offense. Their 12th in baseball by wRC+ (which adjusts for park) and their position players overall are 9th in fWAR. They appear to have a solid pair of young middle infielders in Everth Cabrera and Jedd Gyorko (2nd and 3rd on their team in wRC+), both of whom are on the DL at the moment. Their starting 1B, Yonder Alonso, is also on the DL at the moment. Again, it doesn't affect your point about Webster's performance. I just know I was a bit surprised to see how their bats stack up this year.
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Post by taftreign on Jul 4, 2013 14:57:14 GMT -5
Keep reading the Red Sox have been scouting Garza's starts. Would you rather throw Webster or Doubront or him out there? I think Garza is a better option but am concerned if the team is seriously considering him what they would have to give up for a player who could walk away at the end of the season with no team comp in return. Feels like it would be too much unless the end result is a World Series Title.
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Post by jmei on Jul 4, 2013 15:00:00 GMT -5
The Red Sox need to score some runs here to salvage the bases-loaded, no out scenario that has been wasted so far. A larger lead would give Bailey some more leeway and ensure that Uehara/Tazawa can get the day off.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 4, 2013 16:01:44 GMT -5
He's shown that type of velocity plenty of times this year. Perhaps so but, as I said, not that I have seen...and I have seen most of the games that he has pitched. Yeah, he was humming it in there last night:
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Post by iakovos11 on Jul 4, 2013 16:13:30 GMT -5
Chris - Interesting data/graph from a site I think few of us have heard of.
Not sure if this is the right place, but I was thinking, in order to potentially increase the knowledge of posters here and to perhaps increase the level of any arguments/points one is trying to make, any chance you or someone can compile a list of the best sites for baseball data. I think we all know about baseball reference, but there appear to many others. Maybe list the site and then a quick blurb on what it is best used for?
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Post by rjp313jr on Jul 4, 2013 16:24:55 GMT -5
Keep reading the Red Sox have been scouting Garza's starts. Would you rather throw Webster or Doubront or him out there? I think Garza is a better option but am concerned if the team is seriously considering him what they would have to give up for a player who could walk away at the end of the season with no team comp in return. Feels like it would be too much unless the end result is a World Series Title. Depends on the cost of the acquisition. I'm against trading any real future asset for short term help.
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