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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 26, 2024 9:17:27 GMT -5
Rough to see this type of stuff. Considering what they rightfully wanted for him in a trade the glut of elbow injuries makes me leery at the thought of giving up any big packages for a stud pitcher anymore.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 19:58:25 GMT -5
As a titans fan the chargers taking alt and giants taking nabers couldn't have gone any worse for them.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 19:33:46 GMT -5
Feel like pats got a good one there with maye but we'll see.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 19:29:39 GMT -5
Does Yorke gets promoted when Grissom finishes his rehab assignment? Feel like that's been the theory around here and I think it would make a lot of sense.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 15:22:59 GMT -5
There is a 0% chance that Yoshida’s defense is so much worse than Refsynder’s that his offense isn’t far outstripping Dalbec or Reyes The FO must disagree with you. Maybe the FO does not want Yoshida getting hurt before he is traded.I'm not sure what is going on with Yoshida riding the pine recently but I'm not really buying this logic. His trade value is probably 0 right now since they don't play him. If they wanted to trade him to me it feels like they would want him playing to showcase him for other teams. Might just be as simple as they don't want him in the field at all unless it's an emergency and when Devers is back to 3rd he'll be DH'ing the bulk of the games again. This explanation does make the most sense to me but still has holes in it so I don't necessarily get what the deal is with Yoshida at this point.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 14:59:31 GMT -5
The Rafaela extension means he won't make more than 10 mil per season until 2030. Doesn't make over 5 mil until 2028. That's barely anything for elite defense at 2 positions up the middle. He has also hit nothing and shown the same deficiencies in the majors that he had shown in the minors. The extension made him far more expensive for the next 5 years than he would be otherwise.
If he only cost 770,000 the next 2 years, and then small amount of arbitration raises after that, he’d be far more valuable to mid and small market teams. I would add I also think the extension made it nearly 0 percent chance they'd send him down when he probably could have used more AAA seasoning which would have added a year of service time. Guess that's kind of a moot point though since he's clearly their best SS option with Story out for year which is pretty sad reflection of the depth they entered the season with at MI. I still like Rafaela and think he will be a solid player for them but at the same time find that the extension was rushed and unnecessary. But anywho, no need to keep re-hashing my thoughts on the Rafaela extension in the gameday thread.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 14:52:28 GMT -5
To me any player is expendable in the right deal in any situation but that being said even if Abreu is playing close to his real level why would that necessarily make Anthony the OF to be traded? If Anthony is as good as advertised I just assume trade Rafaela or Duran. I think Rafaela probably has zero to negative trade value ever since signing that ridiculous extension Wouldn't necessarily go as far as zero to negative trade value but I also kind of forgot about the unnecessary extension so yea Duran would probably make the most sense in any theoretical OF trade that is brought on due to Abreu turning into a star. Then again I really don't know what Duran's real ability is at this point either. He started hot but he's been pretty bad for a few weeks at the plate. Same kind of thing happened last year until he hurt his toe and missed the year. Probably is just your prototypical streaky baseball player with long ups and downs.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 14:47:35 GMT -5
If Abreu keeps this level of play up at what point does Roman become expendable in the right deal? To me any player is expendable in the right deal in any situation but that being said even if Abreu is playing close to his real level why would that necessarily make Anthony the OF to be traded? If Anthony is as good as advertised I just assume trade Rafaela or Duran.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 12:06:52 GMT -5
Couldn't really say, Ref hasn't played anywhere but OF for the Sox though. It would seem they don't believe he can play IF anymore since he hasn't done it since 2020 as far as I can tell and that was 20 innings worth. Perhaps they ran him through some IF/1st base reps in practice and figured nope this won't work at all, that'd be my guess as to what happened. Yes, I knew that Cora said that but maybe they thought twice about it after running him through some drills? Or perhaps it is just as julyanmorley surmised and they've decided that baring an emergency Yoshida isn't playing in the OF. I think we should find something out whenever Devers is ready to go back to 3rd base.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 12:02:28 GMT -5
I continue to maintain that none of this is that weird once you accept that they're not going to play him in the field
Nobody would have thought anything of Heineman getting to play his one day in the bigs except for what happened after This is probably the answer that makes the most sense. They don't have any interest in him playing LF, even if I don't really understand why since for one game here and there it doesn't feel like it's going to be that big a detriment. To me it would seem the defensive downgrade of Yoshida Vs Ref would be outweighed by Yoshida's bat vs a righty but apparently not to Cora.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 11:58:53 GMT -5
These three aren't terribly relevant to me in the why is Yoshida not playing equation as they are all playing IF today. Yoshida would not be replacing any of them at 1st/3rd/2nd. I guess you could maybe play Ref at 1st but it seems like they don't want to do that right now or they'd do it. I would have Yoshida in there over Refsnyder since I don't think the world would implode if he plays LF though. I still find this logic odd of not starting Ref @ 1B especially seeing Cora threw Wong over to 1B late in the game on Tuesday despite never playing there in his professional career. Couldn't really say, Ref hasn't played anywhere but OF for the Sox though. It would seem they don't believe he can play IF anymore since he hasn't done it since 2020 as far as I can tell and that was 20 innings worth. Perhaps they ran him through some IF/1st base reps in practice and figured nope this won't work at all, that'd be my guess as to what happened.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 11:52:15 GMT -5
Devers is too important to the Red Sox to risk having him missing from the lineup, and right now, if making him the DH keeps him in the lineup and off the DL list, then Yoshida rides the pine. Nobody's arguing playing Yoshida over Devers at DH.
I'm pretty low on Yoshida, but this is a lineup with Reyes, Dalbec and Hamilton in it – it would be hard to be that low on Yoshida that you wouldn't find a way to get him in the lineup over those guys.
Especially on a day where O'Neill is sitting AND it's a RH pitcher for CLE.
These three aren't terribly relevant to me in the why is Yoshida not playing equation as they are all playing IF today. Yoshida would not be replacing any of them at 1st/3rd/2nd. I guess you could maybe play Ref at 1st but it seems like they don't want to do that right now or they'd do it. I would have Yoshida in there over Refsnyder since I don't think the world would implode if he plays LF though.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 11:49:29 GMT -5
Could they be close to trading Masa and they are keeping him out of the lineup so he doesn’t get hurt? It’s the only thing that makes any sense at this point. I can’t imagine a trade partner unless we are eating a big chunk of his salary which is not this ownerships MO! Time will tell! How is eating salary not in ownerships MO? They just ate all of Sale's salary to bring back Grissom.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 11:20:47 GMT -5
Mike Trout is having an interesting season to say the least. 10 HRs but only 13 RBI which doesn't seem possible and yet.. A 158 wRC+ but is only batting .237 with a .321 OBP but a .598 Slg. Someone needs to get him outta LAA, his contract probably will continue to age poorly but part of me doesn't hate the idea of Trout DH'ing for the Sox.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 10:20:13 GMT -5
There just has to be some kind of leg injury or something. Yoshida's a bad defender in left but not so bad that it makes sense to sit him for Refsnyder against a righty today when he's just had four off days in a row. This would make sense but at the same time why not just say hey he's dealing with something? It's not like it's a full contact sport like hockey and you don't want the other team to know what's hurting. Either way it's strange to me.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 10:08:25 GMT -5
So Cora gets all pissy about Yoshida questions and then proceeds to sit him again. The guy still has legs, maybe play him in LF for a game. The world won't burn to ashes if he plays LF.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 9:14:10 GMT -5
Considering the White Sox are 3 and 21 (Yikes..) and Paul DeJong is off to a solid start, 100 wRC+ albeit with a 41.4 K% so far and he is at 2 OAA at SS so far I'd be on the phone daily with them trying to pry DeJong away until they told Breslow to cut it out. He's an FA after the year and would slot in rather well to this team and allow Rafaela to go back to playing CF full time. It just makes too much sense, I'd rather they go out and get a SS now than to wait until the deadline even though there may be a better option or two available then. Even if there is DeJong would fit well as a bench IF anyway. They clearly have no use for any impending FAs, their season is clearly over. Save them a couple million on their payroll and toss them some lotto ticket, who says no? I was pretty strongly against Rafaela at SS, not so much from concerns about his ability there, but because he has been struggling so much at the plate. But I've changed my mind. Unless an outfielder gets hurt (strong probability), this team is going to be a lot better IMO being able to play all of Duran, Yoshida, Abreu, O'Neill on a daily basis. I would take any and all of those guys offensively over DeJong every day of the week. Now if someone gets hurt (OF, Devers) or especially if Rafaela gets hurt then sure, I'd make the move. Rafaela at SS or 3B makes this team much better offensively. I can see this argument that DeJong isn't all that necessary with Rafaela at SS, perhaps I'm just shell shocked from all the injuries. Even if DeJong is used as a back MI instead of Hamilton I think it'd be worth trying to get him. It feels like they could and should be looking to upgrade on their backup SS options. One injury to any of the OF or Rafaela and they're back to Hamilton or someone like that getting the bulk of SS reps. He shouldn't cost much and would still give them some insurance and flexibility.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 8:59:02 GMT -5
Considering the White Sox are 3 and 21 (Yikes..) and Paul DeJong is off to a solid start, 100 wRC+ albeit with a 41.4 K% so far and he is at 2 OAA at SS so far I'd be on the phone daily with them trying to pry DeJong away until they told Breslow to cut it out.
He's an FA after the year and would slot in rather well to this team and allow Rafaela to go back to playing CF full time. It just makes too much sense, I'd rather they go out and get a SS now than to wait until the deadline even though there may be a better option or two available then. Even if there is DeJong would fit well as a bench IF anyway. They clearly have no use for any impending FAs, their season is clearly over. Save them a couple million on their payroll and toss them some lotto ticket, who says no?
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 25, 2024 6:33:11 GMT -5
Saying Rafaela is the SS of the future is a bold take. I'm not convinced his best role isn't being a super utility guy who starts 100-120 games a year. I hope I am wrong and he is the full time CF of the future but that might depend on whether Roman Anthony can handle CF at the big league level.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 24, 2024 18:36:47 GMT -5
I refuse to believe there isn't a better option than dalbec to play first base in the org.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 24, 2024 18:32:55 GMT -5
I think they wait until they know for sure what they have in Teel before they extend Wong. If the team is tanking at the deadline, I wouldn’t be surprised if Breslow flips him for some players of value if he’s still having a hot season. To me trading Wong would make no sense even if Teel hits his ceiling. A teel/Wong platoon could make for one of the best catchers tandems in the league.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 24, 2024 14:54:18 GMT -5
I'm not angling to deal Duran but I can see his rationale, in the right deal I would certainly make him available. What that deal might be, I couldn't say. Perhaps a deal for a RHH OF of similar control/ability just to balance out the lineup. Did O’Neill & Refsynder die? EDIT: Given the way the injuries have been piling up, entirely possible they might 💀 My apologies, I'm not saying they should really entertain a Duran trade in-season. I meant after the season is over, especially if Anthony is ready. However even if he Anthony is ready they can certainly figure it out if their OF consists of some combo of Duran/Abreu/Rafaela/Anthony. I should have put it another way, I wouldn't trade Duran just for the sake of trading him to break up the LHH OF issue but I am also of the mindset that no player should really be off limits in trade talks.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 24, 2024 14:18:52 GMT -5
I understand selling high in general has its appeal, but trading Duran right now seems insane to me.
He's finally playing good defense, he's improved his BB% and cut his K%. He's shown positive adjustments at every level. He's dynamic, athletic, young and cheap.
For a team that isn't ready to go all-in yet, that's exactly the kind of player you want to keep around.
+1, Duran is one of our best players… I want to specifically add that he’s 10 for 26 with 5 BB and 7 K against LHP so far this year, and if you go back to the beginning of 2023, it’s 23 for 71 with 8 BB and 22 K. Being overwhelmingly left handed is for sure a roster build/synergy concern, but with Duran specifically, he is no longer a player we have to shield from LHP. He doesn’t have to have a caddy. I'm not angling to deal Duran but I can see his rationale, in the right deal I would certainly make him available. What that deal might be, I couldn't say. Perhaps a deal for a RHH OF of similar control/ability just to balance out the lineup.
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 24, 2024 13:37:15 GMT -5
This is absurd injury luck so far this year. Can Houck just pitch every game?
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Post by ematz1423 on Apr 24, 2024 9:37:29 GMT -5
I thought the extension was unnecessary when it was signed and if anything I feel worse about it than I did at the time. That being said I'm not going to write him off as a potential impact starter yet and knew he was going to have growing pains. His approach at the plate is never going to be particularly good but hopefully his sneaky power will show itself enough and he will make enough contact to not be a below average MLB hitter.
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