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Post by dewey1972 on Aug 1, 2013 20:02:47 GMT -5
Stanton requires Bogaerts and others. There's absolutely no way we're getting Stanton without trading Bogaerts. There are far too many premium prospects on other teams. If we're unwilling to give up Bogaerts to get him (and I don't think we should, but that's another discussion) another team will give up Profar or Taveras or Sano or someone. Just don't put Stanton in a lineup if you're not subtracting Bogaerts because it's not reality.
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Post by dewey1972 on Aug 1, 2013 20:06:29 GMT -5
If I was a Cubs fan I'd be very happy with the job he and Hoyer are doing. They've used their money wisely, I think. They signed Edwin Jackson to a solid contract, who can be a solid pitcher for years. They signed Baker and Feldman, and were able to flip Feldman for prospects. They've gotten good solid players (Villanueva, DeJesus) but haven't blocked their young players. Their farm system is in great shape, and they've got the beginnings of a solid core. I have no doubt that when it makes sense, they will use their financial strength to add the pieces they need. The franchise was in shambles. The fact that they could be even decent in year three is, in my eyes, a victory. Besides, what would you have had them do with their money that they haven't? The only negative is out of their control: the Cardinals, Pirates, and Reds are all in very good shape. But as good shape as they're in, they don't have anywhere near the resources the Cubs have, which will make it easier for the Cubs in the long run. Easy just like the Red Sox add some veterans that are good around the kids just like the Sox just did this year. Remember this was a "bridge year"? We jumped that bridge. Benny just bypassed a year or two buy doing good work . He got laughed at some of his stuff he did. Even I question some moves but I like the short term deals and more money that was good strategy. The Sox had the foundations of a very good team before adding Dempster, Victorino, Napoli, Gomes, Ross, and Drew. We had Ellsbury, Ortiz, Pedroia, Saltalamacchia, Lester, Buchholz, Lackey, Doubront. How many players do the Cubs have like that? It's bizarre to compare the Cubs and the Sox at the beginning of this season.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 1, 2013 21:55:08 GMT -5
The Red Sox may have had the 7th pck, but hey were probably the most talented sub 70 win team in baseball history. Their record the last 2 months was incredible for all the wrong reasons.
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Post by ifixbadcredit on Aug 1, 2013 22:02:13 GMT -5
I think Ben stays on course with his plan(2-3 yr deals with a high aav) and keeps the farm intact. I would like to see him go after Matt Adams since he's blocked and there is a lack of 1b prospects in the system currently. I would look at McCann 4/60 and Beltran 2/30 free agency. Both Beltran and McCann will have QO offers attached to them, hopefully the sox get at least two compensation picks with there free agents(Ellsbury,Napoli,Drew,Salty).
rf Victorino 2b Pedroia dh Ortiz lf Beltran c McCann ss Bogaerts 1b Adams 3b Middlebrooks cf Bradley Jr.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 18, 2013 16:12:55 GMT -5
FYI, I just deleted a batch (12) of off-topic posts. Please stick to the topic of this thread (2014 lineup). Thanks.
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Post by sibbysisti on Aug 18, 2013 18:50:13 GMT -5
I think Ben stays on course with his plan(2-3 yr deals with a high aav) and keeps the farm intact. I would like to see him go after Matt Adams since he's blocked and there is a lack of 1b prospects in the system currently. I would look at McCann 4/60 and Beltran 2/30 free agency. Both Beltran and McCann will have QO offers attached to them, hopefully the sox get at least two compensation picks with there free agents(Ellsbury,Napoli,Drew,Salty). rf Victorino 2b Pedroia dh Ortiz lf Beltran c McCann ss Bogaerts 1b Adams 3b Middlebrooks cf Bradley Jr. Good ideas, ifix. And, btw, welcome. It would be good to balance the draft picks for players lost with players gained. McCann would be an upgrade over what we have now. But if he's out of reach, I hope Cherington can make a committment to Salty. I say three years, max, to give Vazquez and Swihart time to develop.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 18, 2013 21:43:33 GMT -5
What I'd like to see in 2014:
CF Ellsbury 2B Pedroia SS Bogaerts DH Ortiz 1B Abreu C McCann 3B Middlebrooks RF Victorino LF Bradley
What I anticipate: RF Victorino CF Bradley 2B Pedroia DH Ortiz 1B Carp SS Bogaerts LF Nava 3B Middlebrooks C Saltalamacchia
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