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Post by huskies15 on Sept 10, 2013 21:40:13 GMT -5
You guys think that Koji will win the AL reliever of the year award? It's tough to come up with someone whose been better, although I guess Mo might get the farewell votes...
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 10, 2013 21:41:28 GMT -5
Drew just looked awful all night. I suppose the rationale is that Drew is better defensively and you want that for Buchholz, but Farrell has to get over his unwillingness to play Xander versus lefties by the playoffs, or else Ben Cherington and Larry Lucchino aren't doing their jobs properly. bogarts might not even be on the playoff roster..... And like I have said over and over... both JF AND BEN have said (Both this week and when X was called up) that Drew is the starter and they are not changing that. so drew will be getting 90+% of the games started.
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Post by wcp3 on Sept 10, 2013 21:43:43 GMT -5
Right. And a lot of times, starters sit during unfavorable matchups (which tonight certainly was).
Oh, and Xander will definitely be on the playoff roster. Unless you think the Red Sox will go into the postseason with zero backup infielders?
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Sept 10, 2013 21:46:42 GMT -5
Right. And a lot of times, starters sit during unfavorable matchups (which tonight certainly was). Oh, and Xander will definitely be on the playoff roster. Unless you think the Red Sox will go into the postseason with zero backup infielders? You're forgetting McDonald. If Farrell really values defense. He might go that way.
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Post by soxfan06 on Sept 10, 2013 21:47:05 GMT -5
I think Koji will get work like this, but once they clinch koji wont really pitch and he will rest.... Go for the win when you can Get work like this? Once again he threw 15 pitches to get 4 outs. Hardly much strain on him wehn he gets in
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Post by wcp3 on Sept 10, 2013 21:51:58 GMT -5
McDonald has 3 ABs on 0 starts in a Red Sox uni.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 10, 2013 21:52:00 GMT -5
Helping the Yankees is the only thing that stings. But whatever wi have biggest fish to fry. Actually, Other than this coming weekend I'm pulling or Cleve and NYY or Balt to displace Tampa and Tex. Pirates just took 2 fromTexas. Sox could wreck Tampa's season in the next 2 games. Tampa has 4 head to head with Texas next week while Cleve has an easy schedule. Sox take care of business this could get fun.
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Post by mattpicard on Sept 10, 2013 21:53:19 GMT -5
Right. And a lot of times, starters sit during unfavorable matchups (which tonight certainly was). Oh, and Xander will definitely be on the playoff roster. Unless you think the Red Sox will go into the postseason with zero backup infielders? You're forgetting McDonald. If Farrell really values defense. He might go that way. Eh, McDonald probably won't sniff the playoff roster unless there's an injury. He doesn't have value at the plate or on the bases, and he's not going to replace any of our starting infielders on defense late in games. With Peds being a rock and likely to play every postseason inning at second base (thus not requiring WMB to ever have to shift to second), Xander is the logical 4th infielder. But, yeah, he really needs to play most if not every game against lefties down the stretch.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Sept 10, 2013 21:54:05 GMT -5
We can always sweep the Yankees this coming weekend. That would be fun
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 10, 2013 22:00:03 GMT -5
Xander will be on the playoff roster. Don't be crazy. He may not start a lot but he'll be on the roster.
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Post by ianrs on Sept 10, 2013 22:02:01 GMT -5
Tito's Indians now only 1.5 games back in the Wild Card (with an easy remaining schedule to boot)...would love to see them in the playoffs!
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Post by johnsilver52 on Sept 10, 2013 22:06:45 GMT -5
McDonald has 3 ABs on 0 starts in a Red Sox uni. Cost was so little (Ogando) that it is conceivable they got him to allow the Pawsox to keep Holt for the PO. They allowed them to keep JBJ far to long even.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 10, 2013 22:07:21 GMT -5
Drew just looked awful all night. I suppose the rationale is that Drew is better defensively and you want that for Buchholz, but Farrell has to get over his unwillingness to play Xander versus lefties by the playoffs, or else Ben Cherington and Larry Lucchino aren't doing their jobs properly. I get that this is a prospect website, but the Red Sox were not facing Walton McLefty. It was David Price, there are some great odds that Xanny would have looked as clueless as Drew did. Besides, Cherington said himself that Drew is the starter. And how do you picture this "aren't doing their jobs properly"? Do you think BC and Larry are taking a nap, or that they could be home eating a pizza when suddenly they go OMFG FARRELL HAS TO PLAY XANDER? Any GM has serious input over who should and shouldn't play and Farrell doesn't look the kind to say "screw that noise", and especially Lucchino doesn't look the kind to take that lightly. You can bet your house that this "unwillingness" to play Xander versus lefties is pretty much how they all designed to ease him in. No need to rush him, the Red Sox have like a billion game lead on the division.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Sept 10, 2013 22:09:43 GMT -5
Tito's Indians now only 1.5 games back in the Wild Card (with an easy remaining schedule to boot)...would love to see them in the playoffs! My WC hopes are both TB and Texas get knocked out.. Somehow Baltimore and KC can sneak in. Nearly impossible for KC, but old times sake om both and then Showalter can spit some 'bacco juice as last words on Giradi over the sign stealing incident.
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Post by iakovos11 on Sept 10, 2013 22:10:26 GMT -5
You guys think that Koji will win the AL reliever of the year award? It's tough to come up with someone whose been better, although I guess Mo might get the farewell votes... Greg Holland is right there with him. He's striking out 42% of batters faced. That's unreal (14k's/9).
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Post by pedroelgrande on Sept 10, 2013 22:25:36 GMT -5
the Red Sox have like a billion game lead on the division. Which is why he can play without pressure. But whatever lest continue to waste resources.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 10, 2013 22:54:48 GMT -5
Great win by the Sox tonight. Tampa needed a sweep to have a real shot at the division. I think tonight's win pretty much wraps it up. Any wins the next two nights the Sox get are gravy. The Sox have already done what they needed to do in Tampa. At it was great to see them beat Price as dominating as he was and do it with Buchholz pitching effectively and Koji being Koji.
Personally I think this would have been a great spot for Xander. Drew doesn't have a great history against Price and is pretty dreadful against lefties. I don't think it would have hurt to see what Xander could have done. I doubt he'd be any less effective than Drew would be against Price.
I'm fine with Drew getting the bulk of the playing time for now, but I think against a tough lefty Xander should get a look. He's not clueless at the plate as I think he has a very advanced approach for a 20 year old.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 10, 2013 23:03:25 GMT -5
Xander will be on the playoff roster. Don't be crazy. He may not start a lot but he'll be on the roster. What about the way he's being used right now makes you think it crazy that he'd be left off the roster? I don't think it's a certainty at all.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 10, 2013 23:08:21 GMT -5
the Red Sox have like a billion game lead on the division. Which is why he can play without pressure. But whatever lest continue to waste resources. I didn't mean pressure situations. I mean I understand being pissed off about the lack of PA's Xander is getting, but he is not the starter. He is being eased into a starting position this way because the whole Red Sox staff think it's the best way. You can disagree, sure. But it makes no sense blaming only Farrell and not also BC, Larry or anyone else. Which was my point.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Sept 10, 2013 23:08:28 GMT -5
To me its a certainty that he won't be.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Sept 10, 2013 23:09:40 GMT -5
Agree. Team could go with Holt after the Pawsox series, even Mcdonald. They only want someone for an emergency anyway since all indications show that Farrell is sticking with Drew even with the toughest lefties on the mound.
Holt and McDonald can play 3b/ss/2b and have more experience and have a LOT more experience at non SS than Xander does. Us fans may not like him being left off, but it would make sense.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Sept 10, 2013 23:11:56 GMT -5
Uehara's performance is one of the great stories of this or any year. Speier ran a very good perspective on his career both in Japan and in the States, emphasizing that he always wanted to try his game at the MLB level. That splitter is something he's been working on for a very long time. How good is it? Baseball Analytics has a nice piece on just that. As most of us have figured out by now, it's the contrast between that and his fastball (which isn't fast at all, just fast enough) that's the killer. this quote from the article puts the hitting conundrum in perspective: This graph from the article says it all, in pictures. Think quick:
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Post by pedroelgrande on Sept 10, 2013 23:13:25 GMT -5
You can disagree, sure. But it makes no sense blaming only Farrell and not also BC, Larry or anyone else. Which was my point. Look, I understand that you want to defend Farrell. Nobody thinks, at least me, that he is an idiot that doesn't know what to do. I'm just critiquing the way he or they are using the resources. He is the public face so he gets named more but I'm sure people are critiquing whoever has to do with the decision not just him.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Sept 10, 2013 23:44:11 GMT -5
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 10, 2013 23:53:29 GMT -5
Look, I understand that you want to defend Farrell. Nobody thinks, at least me, that he is an idiot that doesn't know what to do. I'm just critiquing the way he or they are using the resources. He is the public face so he gets named more but I'm sure people are critiquing whoever has to do with the decision not just him. I understand you and you do have a point, it's been frustrating to watch Xander not getting PAs. My post was a reply to the assumption (not done by you) on BC or Larry not already having an input on how it's been handled, which I just don't see.
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