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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 24, 2013 21:38:17 GMT -5
I'll never understand why we were walking guys at the bottom of their freaking order with a 1 run lead. Because Breslow is a far inferior reliever than his ERA would have you believe. He's always walked more hitters than he can sustain with his below-average K rates. And instead of attacking a terrible hitter, he tried to be too fine and walked him. That's what's aggravating. The one huge weakness the Cards have is a lack of a bench. They were stuck with that fly swatter and I have no idea why Breslow didn't go after him. Breslow is a really smart guy. I don't get it. Plus the Cards telegraphed that they'd be trying to steal....Ugh. I guess the Sox were due for a night where the bullpen failed. Wished it was in April 2014.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 24, 2013 21:39:11 GMT -5
The only thing there is to root for right now is to get Wacha's pitch count up over 100 by the end of the 6th inning, try to keep the game close, and hope they can handle the Cards' pen. They're not going to touch Wacha. Napoli's DP grounder killed their best and perhaps only chance. Why is Gomes in the game over Nava again? Keep making negative predictions, please, the season might depend on it. Have any positive/smug predictions to make about this game? If it brings the Sox luck we can use it.
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Post by Guidas on Oct 24, 2013 21:39:16 GMT -5
Drew should just take a knee.
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 24, 2013 21:41:04 GMT -5
Breslow just blew the series for the Red Sox. Loser.
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Post by soxfan06 on Oct 24, 2013 21:41:18 GMT -5
Good thing we don't have 3 black holes in the lineup.
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Post by Guidas on Oct 24, 2013 21:41:48 GMT -5
See now that's how to take care of the 7-8-9 hitters when you're only 9 outs from a World Series win.
Just horrible.
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Post by nationinthesouth on Oct 24, 2013 21:42:24 GMT -5
Boston....3 hits, 2 errors, I realize nobody on here has posters of Farrell on the wall but sometimes the players have to perform and its out of the managers hands
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Post by beasleyrockah on Oct 24, 2013 21:42:53 GMT -5
Keep making negative predictions, please, the season might depend on it. Have any positive/smug predictions to make about this game? If it brings the Sox luck we can use it. This is awkward. I try to refrain from unnecessary hyperbolic comments about the team's future since, you know, it isn't predictable.
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Post by Don Caballero on Oct 24, 2013 21:43:44 GMT -5
It's very true, is it not? Not Gomes fault he doesn't throw lefty, but I'm just pointing out that if we started our best left fielder, we would have had a better chance at making that play. There is not a single number to back Nava up as a better fielder than Gomes, let alone as better enough to make a difference.
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Post by jmei on Oct 24, 2013 21:45:13 GMT -5
Make no mistake-- the Red Sox bullpen is not as good as it seemed in the ALCS. Tazawa's fly ball tendencies and Breslow's reliance on suppressing BABIP make them merely good but not great relievers. Only Koji is close to a true lock-down option. The offensive ineptness of the Tigers (as well as a few well-time double plays) camouflaged this somewhat, but don't forget that the bullpen was the biggest question mark at the end of the regular season.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Oct 24, 2013 21:45:23 GMT -5
It's very true, is it not? Not Gomes fault he doesn't throw lefty, but I'm just pointing out that if we started our best left fielder, we would have had a better chance at making that play. There is not a single number to back Nava up as a better fielder than Gomes, let alone as better enough to make a difference. Dude, my cat is a better left fielder than Gomes, and I don't even have a cat.
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 24, 2013 21:45:30 GMT -5
It's very true, is it not? Not Gomes fault he doesn't throw lefty, but I'm just pointing out that if we started our best left fielder, we would have had a better chance at making that play. There is not a single number to back Nava up as a better fielder than Gomes, let alone as better enough to make a difference. There are plenty of numbers to back up him being a better player, though.
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Oct 24, 2013 21:45:42 GMT -5
They're down two runs, not ten. A loss here is very bad. We lose the DH in StL, Peavy couldn't get past 2 innings last time out and Buchholz has a dead arm. Yeah I agree. This win would of put is in good position heading to STL, now things look pretty bad considering you don't know what you'll get out of Peavy and the game 4 starter is still a massive question mark.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 24, 2013 21:46:25 GMT -5
Boston....3 hits, 2 errors, I realize nobody on here has posters of Farrell on the wall but sometimes the players have to perform and its out of the managers hands True but it helps to have the right players in the game. The Gomes/Nava thing is crazy. At least we'll know we'll see Nava in St. Louis. Can't blame him for Breslow, though. It was the right move. Breslow crapped the bed. And like Guidas is saying, the Sox will go to St. Louis tied at 1-1, have the hit or miss Jake Peavy going against Kelly who everybody seems to underrate, and then the Sox get the injured/weakened Buchholz and/or the rusty Doubront in Game 4, and then get to deal with Wainright in St. Louis where I suspect he'll be his normal self, and Wacha again, who they could barely hit for six innings. That's why two here is crucial. The Sox didn't have much margin for error, holding the slim 2-1 lead, but to have the bullpen blast that away and bad defense to play a part in it kind of stinks. The Cards will have met their goal of splitting at Fenway, and then they can hit the weaker pitching the Sox have to offer in St. Louis in front of their home crowd for three games.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 21:46:47 GMT -5
Pathetic by Farrell & Breslow. that is not remotly JF fault.... Yes it was. If you're going to remove your starter just do it right away, The BP is rested, no need to try to steal outs with lackey. Breslow should had pitched Jayson Jay as well but JF was tentative.
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Post by jmei on Oct 24, 2013 21:46:57 GMT -5
It's very true, is it not? Not Gomes fault he doesn't throw lefty, but I'm just pointing out that if we started our best left fielder, we would have had a better chance at making that play. There is not a single number to back Nava up as a better fielder than Gomes, let alone as better enough to make a difference. This is just categorically false. I posted earlier about how every advanced defensive measure favors Nava. Plus, there's a reason Farrell started Nava in RF but not Gomes.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 24, 2013 21:47:59 GMT -5
that is not remotly JF fault.... Yes it was. If you're going to remove your starter just do it right away, The BP is rested, no need to try to steal outs with lackey. Breslow should had pitched Jayson Jay as well but JF was tentative. who would you have put in with a man on then? Taz and his homer prone ways? Breslow has been one of our better RP this postseason, he was the right pitcher to put in who just happned to shit the bed
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 24, 2013 21:49:30 GMT -5
Have any positive/smug predictions to make about this game? If it brings the Sox luck we can use it. This is awkward. I try to refrain from unnecessary hyperbolic comments about the team's future since, you know, it isn't predictable. What's the worse that happens? You're either right or you're either wrong. There's no money riding on it. It's an anonymous board. Nobody is going to take you to the woodshed. Of course baseball is mostly unpredictable. It's averages operating on a random scale of occurrence. The way I see it, if I'm wrong, I'm cool with it. Who cares? It's not like I get paid for a prediction if I'm actually right. There are bigger issues in life.
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Post by jmei on Oct 24, 2013 21:51:15 GMT -5
Boston....3 hits, 2 errors, I realize nobody on here has posters of Farrell on the wall but sometimes the players have to perform and its out of the managers hands True but it helps to have the right players in the game. The Gomes/Nava thing is crazy. At least we'll know we'll see Nava in St. Louis. Can't blame him for Breslow, though. It was the right move. Breslow crapped the bed. And like Guidas is saying, the Sox will go to St. Louis tied at 1-1, have the hit or miss Jake Peavy going against Kelly who everybody seems to underrate, and then the Sox get the injured/weakened Buchholz and/or the rusty Doubront in Game 4, and then get to deal with Wainright in St. Louis where I suspect he'll be his normal self, and Wacha again, who they could barely hit for six innings. That's why two here is crucial. The Sox didn't have much margin for error, holding the slim 2-1 lead, but to have the bullpen blast that away and bad defense to play a part in it kind of stinks. The Cards will have met their goal of splitting at Fenway, and then they can hit the weaker pitching the Sox have to offer in St. Louis in front of their home crowd for three games. Great stuff. This is exactly the kind of reverse curse we needed. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2013 21:52:50 GMT -5
Yes it was. If you're going to remove your starter just do it right away, The BP is rested, no need to try to steal outs with lackey. Breslow should had pitched Jayson Jay as well but JF was tentative. who would you have put in with a man on then? Taz and his homer prone ways? Breslow has been one of our better RP this postseason, he was the right pitcher to put in who just happned to shit the bed If he was the right pitcher then there's no reason to leave Lackey pitch to Jayson Jay.
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Post by nationinthesouth on Oct 24, 2013 21:54:21 GMT -5
Bottom of 8...lead off man on the heart of the order due up.....so they perform or not...Farrell has no impact either way
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Post by beasleyrockah on Oct 24, 2013 21:54:40 GMT -5
This is awkward. I try to refrain from unnecessary hyperbolic comments about the team's future since, you know, it isn't predictable. What's the worse that happens? You're either right or you're either wrong. There's no money riding on it. It's an anonymous board. Nobody is going to take you to the woodshed. Of course baseball is mostly unpredictable. It's averages operating on a random scale of occurrence. The way I see it, if I'm wrong, I'm cool with it. Who cares? It's not like I get paid for a prediction if I'm actually right. There are bigger issues in life. Because you've spent the entire season making absolute predictions about how "this can't happen" when obviously there's a possibility "that" could happen. Suggesting the Red Sox had no chance to hit Wacha is and was crazy, of course they had a chance. All the hyperbole is unnecessary and that's all I'm talking about, reasonable pessimism is fine. I'm not derailing a WS thread, if you want to bring it to the Throwdown forum or whatever be my guest.
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Post by wcp3 on Oct 24, 2013 21:55:38 GMT -5
Lol at Victorino taking a pitch literally over the heart of the plate.
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Post by jmei on Oct 24, 2013 21:58:28 GMT -5
Martinez is good. That slider is nasty.
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Post by jmei on Oct 24, 2013 21:59:45 GMT -5
Alright, let's see what you can do, Nap.
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