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Post by Jonathan Singer on Oct 24, 2013 8:10:25 GMT -5
10/24 Red Sox (RHP John Lackey 2-0 3.00) vs. Cardinals (RHP Michael Wacha 3-0 0.43) 8:07 pm ET, FOX/WEEI World Series Game 2Season SeriesDid not meet How they got here?Red Sox 97-65 AL East Champions, Beat Tampa Bay 3-1 in ALDS, Beat Detroit 4-2 in ALCS Cardinals 97-65 NL Central Champions, Beat Pittsburgh 3-2 in NLDS, Beat Los Angeles 4-2 in NLCS Playoff History2004 World Series - Boston won 4-0 1967 World Series - St. Louis won 4-3 1946 World Series - St. Louis won 4-3 MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsWeatherSeries Thread Disclaimer: The SoxProspects Moderators will be somewhat liberal in policing the Red Sox "Series" Threads. Some of the Ground Rules are applied loosely in here, as we understand that there is a tendency to want to react (or overreact) to every play of a Sox game with one line reactionary posts. Those posts are okay in the Red Sox Series threads to a point - we certainly appreciate the passion. Just try not to overdo it, and try to maintain some semblance of reason. In addition, please don't let those type of posts spill over to other more substantive threads, where they may be deleted. -The Management
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Post by dominicansoxfan on Oct 24, 2013 9:12:10 GMT -5
Wacha's fastball/change up combination is awesome. I watched video sequence after video sequence and he does an incredible job of keeping his mechanics similar. Occasionally his front leg extension is greater on the fastball but not always. Sometimes the wind up sequence is more complicated on the change up but not later in the game. Actually the biggest deference that I noticed was his cadence is actually faster on the change up with the exception of his lead arm which gets slightly more straight with a more acute plane. He does this to open up a little early and take some velocity away, but he also occasionally does this on his fastball to induce a pop up when up in the zone or a ground ball down in the zone. So his 96mph FB, his 92mph FB, and his 85mph CH look very similar.
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Post by jmei on Oct 24, 2013 9:18:16 GMT -5
Wacha has neutral-to-reverse splits in his brief MLB career so far. He strikes out more righties but also gives up more fly balls and home runs. I'd expect Gomes and maybe even Middlebrooks to start today.
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Post by nebraska4sox on Oct 24, 2013 9:21:16 GMT -5
Kid has real good stuff. Plus we can all expect the Cardinals to play better. Today should be an interesting game. Now that I am back from my honeymoon I can actually watch Sox baseball again.
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Post by jdb on Oct 24, 2013 9:25:39 GMT -5
He's never pitched over 130 inning (Soph year at ATM) so maybe its a perfect storm tonight. Big stage, world watching, great lineup and his 165-170 innings this year gases him.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 24, 2013 10:30:03 GMT -5
A win tonight would be huge. I would like to see WMB at 3rd and Bogaerts at SS.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 24, 2013 10:33:47 GMT -5
Wacha has neutral-to-reverse splits in his brief MLB career so far. He strikes out more righties but also gives up more fly balls and home runs. I'd expect Gomes and maybe even Middlebrooks to start today. Who do you see WMB start in place of? Drew or Bogaerts? I'm assuming Drew since it seems his RHB is why you expect Middlebrooks in the lineup. Bogaerts didn't have a hit last night, but he squared up two balls.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 24, 2013 10:47:32 GMT -5
Wacha has neutral-to-reverse splits in his brief MLB career so far. He strikes out more righties but also gives up more fly balls and home runs. I'd expect Gomes and maybe even Middlebrooks to start today. Who do you see WMB start in place of? Drew or Bogaerts? I'm assuming Drew since it seems his RHB is why you expect Middlebrooks in the lineup. Bogaerts didn't have a hit last night, but he squared up two balls. Drew of course. He has looked awful the entire post season. He is striking out in roughly 50% of his at bats. Bogaerts had an O-fer but he had a sac fly and has played really well lately. One of Bogaerts K's was on a questionable called strike 3 as well. He looked good working that count and he is very patient.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 24, 2013 10:53:11 GMT -5
Bogie had that strike coming. I think it was a strike first and foremost and he's taken some really borderline balls with 2 strikes that could have gone the other way. Not a knock on him, but chances are he'll learn to foul off some of these offerings instead of watching a close one go by all the time.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Oct 24, 2013 12:24:31 GMT -5
Agreed that overall Bogaerts has been getting the calls inordinately. He has been lucky to a degree but he creamed that last ball he hit in game 1. It was a rocket. The guy can hit a fastball ok. We want him on that line...we need him on that line...etc! He can turn around a fastball as well as anyone on that team and isn't that what St. Louis's pitchers are all about. They probably have the highest mph rating of any team collectively in the majors.
To me, tonights game is all about who hits one out. We need 1-2 HR off of Wacha tonight. I'd go up there hacking with my hackers. Except for Nava, who has shown he can hit a fastball also. Enough of the Gomes baloney. Get the real deal.
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Post by soxfanatic on Oct 24, 2013 12:28:54 GMT -5
Agreed that overall Bogaerts has been getting the calls inordinately. He has been lucky to a degree but he creamed that last ball he hit in game 1. It was a rocket. The guy can hit a fastball ok. We want him on that line...we need him on that line...etc! He can turn around a fastball as well as anyone on that team and isn't that what St. Louis's pitchers are all about. They probably have the highest mph rating of any team collectively in the majors. To me, tonights game is all about who hits one out. We need 1-2 HR off of Wacha tonight. I'd go up there hacking with my hackers. Except for Nava, who has shown he can hit a fastball also. Enough of the Gomes baloney. Get the real deal. Not to take anything away from Bogaerts being a good fastball hitter, the sac fly off Martinez was on a 83 MPH change up.
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Post by jmei on Oct 24, 2013 12:33:21 GMT -5
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Oct 24, 2013 12:33:33 GMT -5
My bad if that's the case. By the way, why the heck are we honoring Rivera for again tonight. That's ridiculous. You would think the guy is a saint or something. He's been honored over and over in every stadium this year. Enough already.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Oct 24, 2013 12:39:21 GMT -5
We do want guys playing that can hit fastballs though right, especially these first 2 games. If that is Middlebrooks and Bogaerts maybe we should consider it. I have a hunch it might work tonight. We need to bug Farrel's room and place a sugsestive message for his dreams tonight.
I recognize that defense is also a priority though, particularly in projected low scoring games. The conventional approach is to continue with Drew and hope he breaks out of this slump.
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Post by hammerhead on Oct 24, 2013 12:57:09 GMT -5
So we crushed this team last night with patience, and you want them tonight to go up there hacking? Not me.. I say stick with what brung you... Make the Cardinals adjust.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Oct 24, 2013 13:28:32 GMT -5
My bad if that's the case. By the way, why the heck are we honoring Rivera for again tonight. That's ridiculous. You would think the guy is a saint or something. He's been honored over and over in every stadium this year. Enough already. I 100% Agree. They guy got his stage tour at every stop on his last road trip, got standing ovations along the way. 1st ballot HOF, way too much fanfare on multiple BB oriented shows ever since. Far more talk than Trevor Hoffman ever got. Divine Justice would call for a bank of lights to go out in the middle of all the nonsense this evening, if it wouldn't stall the game any, only we know it would disrupt Lackey again.. Just send Rivera back to NY and hold his conference there from NOW on.. Boston is tired of him..
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Post by buffs4444 on Oct 24, 2013 14:42:59 GMT -5
Wacha has neutral-to-reverse splits in his brief MLB career so far. He strikes out more righties but also gives up more fly balls and home runs. I'd expect Gomes and maybe even Middlebrooks to start today. Very interesting. I'm looking forward to watching Wacha's performance on this stage tonight. Heck of a start so far, but this is a different beast for a kid this young. Should be great viewing tonight...
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Post by soxfanatic on Oct 24, 2013 15:07:39 GMT -5
Lou Merloni ?@loumerloni 7m Just watched Buchholz throw about 10-15 uncomfortable throws on flat ground. That didn't look good
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Post by soxfanatic on Oct 24, 2013 15:08:10 GMT -5
Red Sox v. Wacha: Ellsbury, Victorino, Pedroia, Ortiz, Napoli, Gomes, Saltalamacchia, Drew, Bogaerts. Lackey.
Why the .... is Bogaerts hitting behind Drew.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 24, 2013 15:13:11 GMT -5
I can't wait for Rivera to decide to unrestored and comeback next year.
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 24, 2013 15:13:47 GMT -5
Red Sox v. Wacha: Ellsbury, Victorino, Pedroia, Ortiz, Napoli, Gomes, Saltalamacchia, Drew, Bogaerts. Lackey. Why the .... is Bogaerts hitting behind Drew. Or salty...
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Post by Guidas on Oct 24, 2013 15:21:02 GMT -5
Why the... is Gomes still in the line-up? Farrell's mancrush is nice but Nava hits righties better, gets on more often and catches both those balls to left last night. Period.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 24, 2013 15:25:49 GMT -5
Why the... is Gomes still in the line-up? Farrell's mancrush is nice but Nava hits righties better, gets on more often and catches both those balls to left last night. Period. Farrell is going to bring him in for the St Louis series. Not sure why he decided that but thats what he decided.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Oct 24, 2013 15:26:24 GMT -5
Red Sox v. Wacha: Ellsbury, Victorino, Pedroia, Ortiz, Napoli, Gomes, Saltalamacchia, Drew, Bogaerts. Lackey. Why the .... is Bogaerts hitting behind Drew. Or salty... Or Gomes for that matter...
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Post by hammerhead on Oct 24, 2013 15:26:39 GMT -5
Napoli, Gomes and Salty together in a line up is a strike out pitcher's wet dream. It seems like Farrell is waiting till this team loses to play Nava, which is just being stubborn.
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