Post by thelavarnwayguy on Nov 19, 2013 12:40:26 GMT -5
OK Chris, Do we even try to sign Japanese players out of high school? Yes or No?
I would say effectively we do not even try to sign high school players from Japan. We try in most other countries. Why don't we try in Japan? I would contend because mlb owners effectively collude with their Japanese counterparts.
2nd question. Do we give posting fees to any other league in the world ( in baseball )? I understand how soccer operates around the world but in baseball, do we offer posting fees to other leagues? Maybe paltry fees to the independent leagues a little but pretty much no right? We restrict trade with Japanese teams in particular. We collude with Japanese team owners in this regard.
And we are talking about huge kickbacks to the teams in question, after 7 years of control no less. $50 mil with Matsuzaka. Potentially $70 mil with Tanaka. That is a huge amount of money left on the table, which could have gone to these players and could have been part of the player's union funds also to a degree. My understanding is that the player's union cares a lot about how much players make in part because a share of those earnings go into the union funds.
Do the Japanese teams pay kickbacks to MLB teams after 6 years of control? No they don't. They control those players for effectively 9 years and "generously" allow the posting process with some players for a substantial profit.
All this could be alleviated if Japanese players had a chance to sign with US teams out of high school. Which maybe would be considered unpatriotic in Japan and I freely suggest that that could well be a factor in all of this but if a Japanese phenom did request to have an opportunity to sign with a US team what would happen? I suspect that mlb teams would not encourage it.
This all changes if we have a courageous Japanese prospect willing to take on the system, a Charlie Finley type owner willing to shake up this process of collusion and maybe an agent helping to expedite the process with aggressive marketing into the Japanese baseball world.
I would say effectively we do not even try to sign high school players from Japan. We try in most other countries. Why don't we try in Japan? I would contend because mlb owners effectively collude with their Japanese counterparts.
2nd question. Do we give posting fees to any other league in the world ( in baseball )? I understand how soccer operates around the world but in baseball, do we offer posting fees to other leagues? Maybe paltry fees to the independent leagues a little but pretty much no right? We restrict trade with Japanese teams in particular. We collude with Japanese team owners in this regard.
And we are talking about huge kickbacks to the teams in question, after 7 years of control no less. $50 mil with Matsuzaka. Potentially $70 mil with Tanaka. That is a huge amount of money left on the table, which could have gone to these players and could have been part of the player's union funds also to a degree. My understanding is that the player's union cares a lot about how much players make in part because a share of those earnings go into the union funds.
Do the Japanese teams pay kickbacks to MLB teams after 6 years of control? No they don't. They control those players for effectively 9 years and "generously" allow the posting process with some players for a substantial profit.
All this could be alleviated if Japanese players had a chance to sign with US teams out of high school. Which maybe would be considered unpatriotic in Japan and I freely suggest that that could well be a factor in all of this but if a Japanese phenom did request to have an opportunity to sign with a US team what would happen? I suspect that mlb teams would not encourage it.
This all changes if we have a courageous Japanese prospect willing to take on the system, a Charlie Finley type owner willing to shake up this process of collusion and maybe an agent helping to expedite the process with aggressive marketing into the Japanese baseball world.
