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Post by larrycook on Oct 11, 2014 22:28:47 GMT -5
If the dodgers were willing to move puig, would he really be a good fit for us? I'm sure the Sox could find some room for Puig, given that he's a young under contract all-star calibler player. So could 29 other teams. Not going to happen. Dodgers aren't making a deal like that. Wouldn't even give it a second of thought. La times seems to think the dodgers would becwillingvto move him .
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 11, 2014 22:30:02 GMT -5
I'm sure the Sox could find some room for Puig, given that he's a young under contract all-star calibler player. So could 29 other teams. Not going to happen. Dodgers aren't making a deal like that. Wouldn't even give it a second of thought. La times seems to think the dodgers would becwillingvto move him . Maybe they think they can get Mike Trout back in a deal?
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Post by larrycook on Oct 11, 2014 22:33:55 GMT -5
La times seems to think the dodgers would becwillingvto move him . Maybe they think they can get Mike Trout back in a deal? Sounds like moving puig would help the locker room out.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 11, 2014 22:38:54 GMT -5
Maybe they think they can get Mike Trout back in a deal? Sounds like moving puig would help the locker room out. They didn't lose the NLDS because of their locker room. They lost the NLDS because Clayton Kershaw couldn't hold a 6-2 lead in Game 1 and then couldn't hold a 2-0 lead in Game 4. And of course it was really because they don't trust their middle relief. For all those millions they spend, they were done in by the variable but cheapest part of the team, the middle relievers. They didn't lose because they need to get Puig out of the locker room and he was still there. I don't doubt the guy is flaky, but unless he's shoving the traveling secretary around, he isn't going anywhere.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Oct 12, 2014 0:16:02 GMT -5
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Post by ehaz on Oct 12, 2014 8:58:20 GMT -5
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Post by sibbysisti on Oct 12, 2014 9:39:04 GMT -5
I'd include Harper in that list, wouldn't you?
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Post by p23w on Oct 12, 2014 10:52:10 GMT -5
I'd include Harper in that list, wouldn't you? Yep.
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Post by nomar on Oct 12, 2014 11:42:23 GMT -5
They will absolutely not trade Puig.
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Post by xanderbogaerts2 on Oct 12, 2014 12:58:33 GMT -5
Was looking through some other team forums and this Mets one suggested an absurd but plausible idea. Three team deal Mets, Red Sox, and yes the Marlins. I think we all know where this is going.. Sox get Stanton, Mets get Cespedes+ B/B- tier prospect, Marlins get Betts, Swihart, Sox B prospect, and Syndergaard. I could never see this but thought I would share for a thoughts and laughs.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Oct 12, 2014 15:19:33 GMT -5
No one is saying Petersen replaces Puig's production but is Puig a natural CF? I would say no. Can they trade Crawford? NO. Do they want to trade Kemp now that he is their best offensive player again? No. They obviously wouldn't trade Puig for nothing. He is extremely tradeable in terms of his contract and his value. They can slot Petersen in CF and have a real decent OF with Crawford / Kemp and Petersen and Ethier even on the bench in that scenario. And get huge value for Puig.
I could see them trading Petersen or Puig. I'd probably go for Petersen whose left handed and should cost less. I'd be open to at least considering any of these guys except Ethier and Crawford.
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Post by jmei on Oct 12, 2014 15:32:44 GMT -5
We're getting a little too much trade speculation here. I've tried to be more liberal in terms of allowing limited trade talk because it's hard to have an offseason discussion thread without it, but the last dozen or so posts illustrate why we try to keep that stuff in a separate forum. It's just inundated with speculation, and it's hard to have interesting discussion that isn't just endless waves of "is X available" or "what would it take to get X."
If you want to discuss Puig further, feel free to start a thread in the trade proposal subforum. But let's keep those posts out of this thread. Thanks.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 13, 2014 10:16:50 GMT -5
I'd include Harper in that list, wouldn't you? Not this year with 1.3 WAR.
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Post by jrffam05 on Oct 13, 2014 10:25:37 GMT -5
Lol, Puig is not getting traded in any realistic situation. They call him the best RF in the game in LA. It is much more realistic that they eat money and trade another outfielder or trade Pederson. There is an obvious log jam that they do need to figure out. Not sure if this was posted yet, (I might have already) but here is the fangraphs leaderboards for free agents. They split it up by position players, starters, RH relief, and LF relief. Players with options are included, but you can remove those fro the list. www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/09/2014-15-free-agent-leaderboards.html
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Oct 13, 2014 11:33:29 GMT -5
The Red Sox should trade for players that are good.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Oct 13, 2014 11:36:56 GMT -5
The Red Sox should trade for players that are good. Without giving up anyone good. Excellent plan.
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Post by michael on Oct 13, 2014 12:10:33 GMT -5
Maybe they think they can get Mike Trout back in a deal? Sounds like moving puig would help the locker room out. So would moving Crawford.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Oct 13, 2014 12:23:35 GMT -5
The Red Sox should trade for players that are good. Without giving up anyone good. Excellent plan. As long as they play to win.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 13, 2014 15:11:33 GMT -5
Without giving up anyone good. Excellent plan. As long as they play to win. Swing for the fences, and give 110% as they try to win one game at a time.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Oct 13, 2014 16:56:11 GMT -5
Pederson's numbers are probably inflated thanks to the Cal and Pacific Coast leagues, but the AA stuff from Chattanooga should be a good indication of his worth: .278/.381/.497. His 4-year aggregate in the minors is .302/.405/.524 so the discipline is not a fluke. In fact, that seems to have gotten better as he's moved up (130 points better in Albuquerque this past year). He's all of 22 and a left-handed bat. If his name ever comes up in a discussion with the Dodgers, I would hope the Sox make a serious offer for him. In my opinion he's going to be a very good, maybe a great, player. He's got some defensive chops also. He may not be Puig, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he put up very good numbers with a full-time gig.
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Post by danr on Oct 13, 2014 18:41:46 GMT -5
If I were running the Red Sox, I would find a way to trade Victorino, Craig, Mujica, Breslow and Buchholz, which would free up about $39 million. I then would try to sign the three top pitchers, Lester, Scherzer and Shields, along with a couple of the top relievers. I would not sign any position players.
I have no idea how the Sox could pull this off, but if they could, almost certainly they would be in the post season next year.
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Post by iakovos11 on Oct 13, 2014 18:55:30 GMT -5
Signing older pitchers to long-term, expensive contracts is generally a bad idea and you want to sign 3 this year? Did you learn noting from the Carl Crawford experience? Maybe CC Sabathia? Barry Zito? Verlander? We probably need to sign one of them. No more!
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Post by jmei on Oct 13, 2014 19:24:30 GMT -5
If I were running the Red Sox, I would find a way to trade Victorino, Craig, Mujica, Breslow and Buchholz, which would free up about $39 million. I then would try to sign the three top pitchers, Lester, Scherzer and Shields, along with a couple of the top relievers. I would not sign any position players. I have no idea how the Sox could pull this off, but if they could, almost certainly they would be in the post season next year. They'd be likely to make the postseason next year, but four years from now, they're going to have something like $80m of broken-down pitchers on their roster.
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Post by larrycook on Oct 13, 2014 21:32:51 GMT -5
Would the sox be interested in the giants romo?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 13, 2014 23:50:55 GMT -5
Reminder to all posters that we keep a certain level of sophistication here at SoxProspects.com. This isn't Barstool Sports. If you're into that kind of thing, go post in the comments over there.
Thanks.
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