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Post by soxfanatic on Aug 21, 2014 10:36:55 GMT -5
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Post by taftreign on Aug 21, 2014 11:35:59 GMT -5
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Post by Guidas on Aug 21, 2014 11:54:10 GMT -5
If you were in this guy's position, wouldn't you hold out for as much money as you could get? I just find it amusing how all these fellows who grew up in just about the purest communist system in the world - and about the only one that even works to a fair extent - so easily, and so enthusiastically, adapt to the capitalist world. If you consider keeping more than 95% of your population at poverty level that puts you in the top 1 percentile of the poorest people in the word, brooking zero freedom of speech or movement, and rounding people up in the night and executing them without trial all proof of a communist system that works, then I and Chairman Mao agree. I have friends that escaped from Cuba. Please, do regurgitate propaganda until you speak with some of these folks.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 21, 2014 17:38:58 GMT -5
Agreed. It's like some political agendas are fine and dandy here however JMEI and others are not.
Why not just delete any post that deviates into politics???
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Post by mjammz on Aug 21, 2014 18:46:27 GMT -5
Red Sox and Tigers the front runners according to Edes.
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Post by dominicansoxfan on Aug 21, 2014 20:05:02 GMT -5
Carlos Lugo is ensuring that Rusney Castillo is going to sign with Boston.
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Post by jmei on Aug 21, 2014 20:16:52 GMT -5
Let's steer clear of the political stuff.
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Post by mjammz on Aug 21, 2014 20:19:07 GMT -5
Carlos Lugo is ensuring that Rusney Castillo is going to sign with Boston. I'm looking at his twitter account right now and don't see him saying that.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 21, 2014 20:38:55 GMT -5
I can translate for you (or anyone else) if you want.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Aug 21, 2014 20:42:28 GMT -5
I haven't been following this closely at all but I would think we have enough OF talent right now and I'm pretty confident Mookie Betts will be fine in CF. We can always trade someone so I'm all for picking up more talent if it's just money.
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Post by bluechip on Aug 22, 2014 0:07:11 GMT -5
Not an supreme surprise. He is older and more established than Puig.
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Post by mjammz on Aug 22, 2014 0:09:35 GMT -5
Gordon Edes @gordonedes League source: Boston "optimistic" about signing Rusney Castillo
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 22, 2014 1:27:30 GMT -5
Not an supreme surprise. He is older and more established than Puig. With their strong system, I'd be surprised if the Cubs spent dollars on position players. I wouldn't be surprised if the Cubs were the primary competition for Lester this coming off season.
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Post by soxfanatic on Aug 22, 2014 4:11:37 GMT -5
@iamjoonlee: Agent uninvolved in negotiation expects Rusney Castillo to receive a deal near 6-year, $72.5M. Would be more than Jose Abreu & Yasiel Puig.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 22, 2014 5:33:17 GMT -5
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Post by burythehammer on Aug 22, 2014 6:16:04 GMT -5
6/72 is still a potentially huge bargin, but it sounds like the Cuban market is inching closer to the domestic FA one.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Aug 22, 2014 7:23:59 GMT -5
This guy hasn't put up numbers anywhere near Abreu's Cuban level performance. He is probably of significantly less value than Puig and Abreu. Not saying he won't get a big contract but I think 6/$72 is not going to happen. At least it shouldn't based on the numbers.
And why aren't we hearing the comments of "I don't want him", "He's a gamble", "Cuban baseball is like A or A+ minor league level" etc…any more. Oh yeah, Abreu was a stud. Just as his Cuban league numbers suggested he would be.
This guy is not nearly as good as Puig or Abreu. He probably comes in under current speculations.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Aug 22, 2014 7:45:22 GMT -5
This guy hasn't put up numbers anywhere near Abreu's Cuban level performance. He is probably of significantly less value than Puig and Abreu. Not saying he won't get a big contract but I think 6/$72 is not going to happen. At least it shouldn't based on the numbers. And why aren't we hearing the comments of "I don't want him", "He's a gamble", "Cuban baseball is like A or A+ minor league level" etc…any more. Oh yeah, Abreu was a stud. Just as his Cuban league numbers suggested he would be. This guy is not nearly as good as Puig or Abreu. He probably comes in under current speculations. Just because the guy is Cuban and there have been some recent successes, such as Abreu, Puig and Chapman, doesn't necessarily mean that Castillo is going to be nearly as successful as those guys. Castillo hasn't played competitive baseball in over a year. If he does get anything over 6 years and $50 million it is a pretty big over pay for someone who has been compared with Raja Davis with a little more power.
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Post by soxfanatic on Aug 22, 2014 8:03:04 GMT -5
@scottlauber: Rusney Castillo still talking with "multiple clubs," including #RedSox. Possible that he reaches an agreement today
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Post by chavopepe2 on Aug 22, 2014 8:05:46 GMT -5
This guy hasn't put up numbers anywhere near Abreu's Cuban level performance. He is probably of significantly less value than Puig and Abreu. Not saying he won't get a big contract but I think 6/$72 is not going to happen. At least it shouldn't based on the numbers. And why aren't we hearing the comments of "I don't want him", "He's a gamble", "Cuban baseball is like A or A+ minor league level" etc…any more. Oh yeah, Abreu was a stud. Just as his Cuban league numbers suggested he would be. This guy is not nearly as good as Puig or Abreu. He probably comes in under current speculations. Just because the guy is Cuban and there have been some recent successes, such as Abreu, Puig and Chapman, doesn't necessarily mean that Castillo is going to be nearly as successful as those guys. Castillo hasn't played competitive baseball in over a year. If he does get anything over 6 years and $50 million it is a pretty big over pay for someone who has been compared with Raja Davis with a little more power. This is why I hate comps. One guy throws out a Rajai Davis comp and all the sudden we know what is and is not an overpay... The truth is we have no idea what is and is not an overpay at this point. We don't know how good he is going to be. The Sox should trust their scouts and sign him if the reports are strong. If they do, we can all hope it works out, but lets not pretend we know that 6 yrs/$50M is the magical "overpay" line.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Aug 22, 2014 8:17:10 GMT -5
Fair point about the arbitrary 6 years and $50 million line. However, I would be okay if the Red Sox stop bidding at some point once the price goes beyond what they believe Castillo is worth. Hopefully they have done their due diligence with Castillo handlers given the problems that Puig and possibly Cespedes are having.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Aug 22, 2014 8:18:32 GMT -5
There is little question that what Abreu got looks like a bargain now though right? And we know his Cuban league numbers. What is different with these guys is that we often have years of data on them. Of course "scouting the box score" is not ideal but in this instance we are not talking A ball. All the top Cuban players play in the same league and even though the disparity between the worst and the best is probably much wider than in mlb we are still looking at significant data samples and we can compare the best with the best to a large degree. The Sox know what Linares hit and Iglesias hit and what the other 3 Cuban players they have signed hit in the Cuban leagues. And they see what other Cuban players have done and how many never even made it to the majors after significant hype.
For those who think this guy is going to step in and be a stud in the playoffs, I have one response. Stephen Drew. This guy hasn't played in a long time. I don't see how the Tigers can realistically expect that much out of him this year. This guy is an investment. The only question is how much his stock is worth but it's a longer term play.
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Post by soxfanatic on Aug 22, 2014 8:28:55 GMT -5
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Post by mjammz on Aug 22, 2014 8:41:13 GMT -5
The fact that Speier and Edes say we are favorites and working towards a deal make me VERY optimistic. Those are perhaps the most tied in beat writers. Speier has awesome connections within the front offices (broke Cespedes was coming back) and Edes has alway been very good (broke Adrian Gonzalez story out of left field).
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Post by burythehammer on Aug 22, 2014 8:52:25 GMT -5
This is a bit different though since the question is not how interested are the Red Sox (we know they're among the top bidders) but rather what is going on with the other teams? I'm sure Speier and Edes have good sources around the game, not just in Boston, and Speier cites "several league sources", but being tied in with the Red Sox doesn't necessarily mean much here.
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