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Red Sox acquire Zeke Spruill for Myles Smith
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Post by pedroelgrande on Dec 12, 2014 19:43:29 GMT -5
@dbacks: In an unrelated move, the #Dbacks have also acquired pitcher Myles Smith from the Red Sox for pitcher Zeke Spruill.
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Post by amfox1 on Dec 12, 2014 19:51:13 GMT -5
Spruill was DFA'd by ARI when they signed Tomas. Spruill was originally drafted in the 2nd round by ATL and traded to ARI in the JUpton deal. He has a sinking fastball that generates plenty of ground balls at 92-93 mph, touching 95. His breaking ball shows as an above-average pitch and his change-up is certainly useable. A big, durable workhorse with a bulldog mentality, he sounds a lot like Workman.
I believe he has one option remaining.
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Post by jmei on Dec 12, 2014 19:56:29 GMT -5
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Post by amfox1 on Dec 12, 2014 20:01:14 GMT -5
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Post by xanderbogaerts2 on Dec 12, 2014 20:04:27 GMT -5
Red Sox traded Myles Smith for RHP Zeke Spruill (25) according to MLBTR. Zeke, tall lanky pitcher, was part of the Justin Upton trade. Low 90's fastball, Upper 70's change up, and low to mid 80's sweeping slider. 6 years of control. Looks like back end of the rotation or Bullpen. GB% 51.9, seems the trend continues.
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Post by jmei on Dec 12, 2014 21:36:20 GMT -5
By the way, this is a pretty f------ great trade. Myles Smith has some upside, but he wasn't in the top 60 on this site when he was traded, which says a lot. In return, they get an MLB-ready starter who, as recently as a year or two ago, projected to be a league-averagish starter. He's probably not going to be a starter in this organization long-term, but he's the kind of guy who could easily be a Badenhop-esque weapon out of the pen. These little moves around the margin can be huge, and I'm a big fan of this one.
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Post by charliezink16 on Dec 12, 2014 21:54:21 GMT -5
By the way, this is a pretty f------ great trade. Myles Smith has some upside, but he wasn't in the top 60 on this site when he was traded, which says a lot. In return, they get an MLB-ready starter who, as recently as a year or two ago, projected to be a league-averagish starter. He's probably not going to be a starter in this organization long-term, but he's the kind of guy who could easily be a Badenhop-esque weapon out of the pen. These little moves around the margin can be huge, and I'm a big fan of this one. Agreed, no idea what Arizona saw in Smith. Plus the name Ezekiel Spruill is pretty badass.
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 12, 2014 22:37:18 GMT -5
When I saw the deal, I figured Spruill was out of options, forcing AZ's hand. But he has one left. So, all things considered, good pickup. Smith is a lottery ticket. Live arm, but he had a very poor season.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 12, 2014 23:02:00 GMT -5
BA Handbook last year on Spruill: 45-medium; Struggled to mix pitches effectively in the majors; Good sinker. 90-94 with plus movement; solid-average change with sink; slider projects average.
Yeah, he's definitely your Badenhop.
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Post by redsox1534 on Dec 12, 2014 23:04:20 GMT -5
When I saw the deal, I figured Spruill was out of options, forcing AZ's hand. But he has one left. So, all things considered, good pickup. Smith is a lottery ticket. Live arm, but he had a very poor season. Great get and like some one said already these little moves can be big ones some times. I think hes hitting the bullpen.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Dec 13, 2014 0:06:09 GMT -5
By the way, this is a pretty f------ great trade. Myles Smith has some upside, but he wasn't in the top 60 on this site when he was traded, which says a lot. In return, they get an MLB-ready starter who, as recently as a year or two ago, projected to be a league-averagish starter. He's probably not going to be a starter in this organization long-term, but he's the kind of guy who could easily be a Badenhop-esque weapon out of the pen. These little moves around the margin can be huge, and I'm a big fan of this one. What in the hell is going on in Arizona?
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Post by Gwell55 on Dec 13, 2014 0:21:47 GMT -5
By the way, this is a pretty f------ great trade. Myles Smith has some upside, but he wasn't in the top 60 on this site when he was traded, which says a lot. In return, they get an MLB-ready starter who, as recently as a year or two ago, projected to be a league-averagish starter. He's probably not going to be a starter in this organization long-term, but he's the kind of guy who could easily be a Badenhop-esque weapon out of the pen. These little moves around the margin can be huge, and I'm a big fan of this one. What in the hell is going on in Arizona? Didn't they need a spot on the 40 man for the Yasmany? I heard something about being designated for assignment earlier. And with 2 spots for Webster and De la rosa I'm sure somebody had to go. Ben said something about him competing for a bullpen spot and also about replacing Wilson. He did struggle in AAA this year also.
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Post by Steve Henley on Dec 13, 2014 0:25:46 GMT -5
When I saw the deal, I figured Spruill was out of options, forcing AZ's hand. But he has one left. So, all things considered, good pickup. Smith is a lottery ticket. Live arm, but he had a very poor season. He had a poor first half of the season, but he had a promising second half. In the first half he had a 7.07 ERA. After the all-star break he was moved to the pen full-time and responded well, posting a 2.16 ERA in 16.2 IP with a 20/4 K/BB and 1 HRA. I'm interested to see what he can do with more experience as a reliever. A Badenhop-esque role for 2016 with a couple injury call-ups in 2015 doesn't seem out of the question.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Dec 13, 2014 0:35:44 GMT -5
What in the hell is going on in Arizona? Didn't they need a spot on the 40 man for the Yasmany? I heard something about being designated for assignment earlier. And with 2 spots for Webster and De la rosa I'm sure somebody had to go. Ben said something about him competing for a bullpen spot and also about replacing Wilson. He did struggle in AAA this year also. I'm not exactly a roster management guru or an expert on the Diamondbacks org so maybe I'm missing something here but they just seem to bleed talent constantly.
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Post by charliezink16 on Dec 13, 2014 0:38:49 GMT -5
Regarding our bullpen, the only locks for opening day are Koji Uehara, Junichi Tazawa, and Edward Mujica. Drake Britton is out of options, so needs to make the 25-man out of ST, otherwise he's gone. Beyond them, Alex Wilson (who was our option guy last year) gets replaced by Spruill. We may not have the strongest bullpen ATM, but there's tons of flexibility.
Options remaining: Steven Wright - 1 Brandon Workman - 2 Anthony Ranaudo - 2 Tommy Layne - 1 Edwin Escobar - 1 Heath Hembree - 2 Zeke Spruill - 1
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Post by geostorm on Dec 13, 2014 0:43:46 GMT -5
So...is it possible it went something like this, "abridged", over the 2-3 days or so (...explaining the elongating close on the Miley deal)...
...RS/BC - "Miley for Rubby and Webster...and you want a little something else...no...I know you like him, but he's not on the list...no...no...not being funny...yeah, we'll include Flores but we need a little something else, then, ourselves..."...
...AD/DS - "Spruill?"...that's more than a little something, Ben...lookit...throw in this Myles Smith kid on a flier, and we'll call it done.
I liked the Miley deal, as finally announced...coupling it with this deal, better still...
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Post by Coreno on Dec 13, 2014 1:05:14 GMT -5
I thought Layne did a good job the end of last season and would like to see them give him a long look in the spring. If he pitches well, considering our other LH options, he should be on this team out of the gate IMO
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Post by Oregon Norm on Dec 13, 2014 1:29:23 GMT -5
Didn't they need a spot on the 40 man for the Yasmany? I heard something about being designated for assignment earlier. And with 2 spots for Webster and De la rosa I'm sure somebody had to go. Ben said something about him competing for a bullpen spot and also about replacing Wilson. He did struggle in AAA this year also. I'm not exactly a roster management guru or an expert on the Diamondbacks org so maybe I'm missing something here but they just seem to bleed talent constantly. Yeah... I thought this might change with La Russa as head of baseball ops, and maybe it will. But there's still some rogue player evaluation going on, it seems. This one is a head-scratcher, but a plus for the Sox I guess.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 13, 2014 2:42:05 GMT -5
I'm not exactly a roster management guru or an expert on the Diamondbacks org so maybe I'm missing something here but they just seem to bleed talent constantly. Yeah... I thought this might change with La Russa as head of baseball ops, and maybe it will. But there's still some rogue player evaluation going on, it seems. This one is a head-scratcher, but a plus for the Sox I guess. It could very well have been disagreement in Arizona's camp as to who they wanted. Shipley now works for them and he may have wanted Flores who he signed and was high on and Stewart might have wanted Miles Smith. Maybe Ben just accommodated both and solved the roster crunch problem that Arizona got by signing Thomas and making a 1 for 2 trade. Arizona also just DFAed De La Rosa but, a different one. Arizona has already stated that they expect RDLR and Webster to be their opening day #3 & #4.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Dec 13, 2014 2:51:41 GMT -5
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Post by bjb406 on Dec 13, 2014 4:43:54 GMT -5
By the way, this is a pretty f------ great trade. Myles Smith has some upside, but he wasn't in the top 60 on this site when he was traded, which says a lot. In return, they get an MLB-ready starter who, as recently as a year or two ago, projected to be a league-averagish starter. He's probably not going to be a starter in this organization long-term, but he's the kind of guy who could easily be a Badenhop-esque weapon out of the pen. These little moves around the margin can be huge, and I'm a big fan of this one. I wouldn't go that far. Its a smart move after clearing a couple spots on the 40 man, but I wouldnt expect much from this kid. Looks like a guy to bring to spring training and then stash in AAA as emergency BP help. Hard to see a scenario where he gets a chance to be more than that. That said, not a bad thing to have with all the depth we just traded off.
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Post by bluechip on Dec 13, 2014 7:11:09 GMT -5
Arizona has already stated that they expect RDLR and Webster to be their opening day #3 & #4. I wish them all the luck in the world.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Dec 13, 2014 8:06:32 GMT -5
Arizona has already stated that they expect RDLR and Webster to be their opening day #3 & #4. I wish them all the luck in the world. My God ... I mean, maybe this will work out ok in the end, but ... just all the sympathy in the world for the stress this is gonna cause for the good people of Phoenix. Even if it succeeds in the long term, I think there are going to be some brutal games next year, with balls *flying* out of Chase Field and Allen Webster walking slowly around the mound with that hang-dog look on his face.
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 13, 2014 8:18:41 GMT -5
When I saw the deal, I figured Spruill was out of options, forcing AZ's hand. But he has one left. So, all things considered, good pickup. Smith is a lottery ticket. Live arm, but he had a very poor season. He had a poor first half of the season, but he had a promising second half. In the first half he had a 7.07 ERA. After the all-star break he was moved to the pen full-time and responded well, posting a 2.16 ERA in 16.2 IP with a 20/4 K/BB and 1 HRA. I'm interested to see what he can do with more experience as a reliever. A Badenhop-esque role for 2016 with a couple injury call-ups in 2015 doesn't seem out of the question. I'd meant that Smith had a poor season. Looking at my post, though, I didn't make that totally clear.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 13, 2014 9:15:53 GMT -5
We've actually gotten reports that Smith had regressed as the season went on.
My guess, to play this game, is that the teams were haggling over the third player in the Miley trade, and Cherington was like "look, take Flores and we'll give you someone for Spruill so you actually get something back for him rather than losing him on waivers like you know you're going to." Either that or Stewart said the version that would come from him.
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