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Post by Oregon Norm on Dec 10, 2015 9:48:32 GMT -5
Davis is the classic three true outcomes guy. He's looking for a cliff he can fall off of. He'll be able to pad his landing with those sacks of cash.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 10, 2015 10:12:24 GMT -5
Ken Rosenthal @ken_Rosenthal 38m38 minutes ago Sources: #Orioles have increased offer to Davis, possibly as high as 7/168. Team hopeful, even somewhat optimistic, that it can strike deal.
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Post by nomar on Dec 10, 2015 10:23:17 GMT -5
Well looks like the Orioles are going to regress back to that team we beat 14 times in a row in a few years.
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Post by ibsmith85 on Dec 10, 2015 11:10:52 GMT -5
Olney is refuting the report about the Orioles increasing their offer for Davis
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Post by jmei on Dec 10, 2015 11:12:38 GMT -5
Boras loves this negotiation through the media stuff.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 10, 2015 11:22:38 GMT -5
Boras loves this negotiation through the media stuff. Yeah, it's so obvious. I wouldn't print his crap after awhile, but I'm sure he can always find more people who are willing.
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 10, 2015 12:49:20 GMT -5
It's especially frustrating because Olney is often critical of reporters getting played by agents when he isn't the one doing it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 13:20:14 GMT -5
Ken Rosenthal @ken_Rosenthal 38m38 minutes ago Sources: #Orioles have increased offer to Davis, possibly as high as 7/168. Team hopeful, even somewhat optimistic, that it can strike deal. Buck Showalter complaining on MLB Network this week about Chris Young contract his point was paying 4 outfielder that kind of money is what killing small market teams, what a hypocrite maybe Oakland and Tampa Bay got in the mix which forced Baltimore raise their offer.
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Post by nomar on Dec 10, 2015 13:35:36 GMT -5
To be fair that is one of the bigger advantages to being a large market team. People who are content with 1-2 year deals get better offers AAV wise from large market teams who don't care as long as it's a short commitment.
On the other hand, Young was worth 9M last year and he isn't making that much the following year. It doesn't seem like his decision was based on solely money at all.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 10, 2015 14:00:33 GMT -5
Sounds like Casey Kelly is on the move lol
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Post by ianrs on Dec 10, 2015 14:39:43 GMT -5
I'm pretty amazed that the Rays did not protect Tyler Goeddel in the Rule 5 Draft. What an absolute disaster the 2011 Draft ended up being for the Rays. They had six picks in the first 42 slots of that draft. The only one they came close to "hitting" on was Mikie Mahtook, and he looks like a platoon OF. Guerrieri could maybe bounce back but has still only thrown 206 IP over 4 seasons.
Meanwhile, the Red Sox drafted Betts, Swihart, Bradley Jr., Owens, and Barnes that year. Not bad.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 10, 2015 14:45:29 GMT -5
I'm pretty amazed that the Rays did not protect Tyler Goeddel in the Rule 5 Draft. What an absolute disaster the 2011 Draft ended up being for the Rays. They had six picks in the first 42 slots of that draft. The only one they came close to "hitting" on was Mikie Mahtook, and he looks like a platoon OF. Guerrieri could maybe bounce back but has still only thrown 206 IP over 4 seasons. Meanwhile, the Red Sox drafted Betts, Swihart, Bradley Jr., Owens, and Barnes that year. Not bad. You can go farther if you're talking about 40man and potential impact. Shaw, Noe Ramirez, Jerez
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Post by dcsoxfan on Dec 10, 2015 17:06:43 GMT -5
I'm pretty amazed that the Rays did not protect Tyler Goeddel in the Rule 5 Draft. What an absolute disaster the 2011 Draft ended up being for the Rays. They had six picks in the first 42 slots of that draft. The only one they came close to "hitting" on was Mikie Mahtook, and he looks like a platoon OF. Guerrieri could maybe bounce back but has still only thrown 206 IP over 4 seasons. Meanwhile, the Red Sox drafted Betts, Swihart, Bradley Jr., Owens, and Barnes that year. Not bad. Blake Snell? I think you're being a bit harsh. Their first pick was at 24. There are no more than a half dozen to a dozen genuine impact players in any draft. Having a half dozen picks between 24 and 42 doesn't increase a team's odds of adding talent that much over having one or two. I sometimes think Red Sox fan don't fully appreciate just how good the Red Sox have been at acquiring players with picks in the lower half of the first round through second round. If Snell and Mahtook turn into serviceable Major Leaguers, it will be a solid draft, no matter how many picks they had.
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Post by ianrs on Dec 10, 2015 18:17:20 GMT -5
Blake Snell? I think you're being a bit harsh. Their first pick was at 24. There are no more than a half dozen to a dozen genuine impact players in any draft. Having a half dozen picks between 24 and 42 doesn't increase a team's odds of adding talent that much over having one or two. I sometimes think Red Sox fan don't fully appreciate just how good the Red Sox have been at acquiring players with picks in the lower half of the first round through second round. If Snell and Mahtook turn into serviceable Major Leaguers, it will be a solid draft, no matter how many picks they had. Huh, I somehow missed Snell and his breakout this season. Thank you for the catch. You're right in that the likelihood of getting an impact player is quite low regardless of picks. There was just so much hype about the Rays having that many picks around the draft. I hadn't meant to give the Red Sox as an example of how the Rays should have drafted but almost an exercise in how lucky we have been relative to some of our competition in the AL East, as you pointed out. That draft was certainty a special one and not the norm. We are very lucky indeed.
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Post by ibsmith85 on Dec 11, 2015 8:52:06 GMT -5
Sounds like Casey Kelly is on the move lol Padres have acquired C Christian Bethancourt from the Braves for P Casey Kelly and C Ricardo Rodriquez NBC Sports
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Post by nomar on Dec 11, 2015 9:32:04 GMT -5
That would've been a way bigger deal 4 years ago.
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 11, 2015 10:51:49 GMT -5
At the risk of sounding like a crazy person (shut it, peanut gallery), I still think Casey Kelly can turn into a useful pitcher.
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Post by stevedillard on Dec 11, 2015 11:09:39 GMT -5
I suspect Atlanta is looking to convert him to SS. [/Trey Ball]
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 11, 2015 13:13:08 GMT -5
Ken Rosenthal @ken_Rosenthal 18s19 seconds ago Source: Heyward to #Cubs. First reported: @gdubcub
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Dec 11, 2015 13:27:20 GMT -5
Wonder what the Cubs would want for Soler, sounds like they want to move him.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 11, 2015 13:34:50 GMT -5
Wonder what the Cubs would want for Soler, sounds like they want to move him. I'll bet they go after Carrasco.
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Post by borisman on Dec 11, 2015 13:36:21 GMT -5
Ken Rosenthal @ken_Rosenthal 38m38 minutes ago Sources: #Orioles have increased offer to Davis, possibly as high as 7/168. Team hopeful, even somewhat optimistic, that it can strike deal. Buck Showalter complaining on MLB Network this week about Chris Young contract his point was paying 4 outfielder that kind of money is what killing small market teams, what a hypocrite maybe Oakland and Tampa Bay got in the mix which forced Baltimore raise their offer. That's the same cry baby from 3 years ago saying "Matt Wieters will be a Yankee when he turns free agent". Somebody get him his bubba.
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Post by radiohix on Dec 11, 2015 13:50:19 GMT -5
Now if Theo can package Baez and Soler for Salazar or Carrasco and re-sign Fowler... Oh boy!
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Post by ramireja on Dec 11, 2015 13:51:26 GMT -5
Its official, the Cubs are stacked and everyone will predict them to win the 2016 WS (probably including me).
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Post by pedroelgrande on Dec 11, 2015 13:54:46 GMT -5
Its official, the Cubs are stacked and everyone will predict them to win the 2016 WS (probably including me). Which they won't win then. In other news the best fans in MLB are in full meltdown mode. Gotta give it to Theo building a power house. Now only needs things to bounce their way.
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