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Post by sarasoxer on Jun 14, 2015 16:24:35 GMT -5
The clouds aren't trying too hard at blocking the sun. I think I saw a single that fell right between 4 people. There must be 4 or 5 suns up there. I just looked at the box score, Sox only have one error and the sun isn't out when the Jays are in the field. Is there a sabermetric stat for that....
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Post by dd on Jun 14, 2015 16:33:16 GMT -5
There must be 4 or 5 suns up there. I just looked at the box score, Sox only have one error and the sun isn't out when the Jays are in the field. Is there a sabermetric stat for that.... BASIS Batting Average with Sun In Sky
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Post by sarasoxer on Jun 14, 2015 16:43:12 GMT -5
Is there a sabermetric stat for that.... BASIS Batting Average with Sun In Sky Got it!!Thanks. I see it now on page 643 of the The Saber-Manual...down near the bottom in agate type...easy to miss.
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Post by ianrs on Jun 14, 2015 16:44:15 GMT -5
This has been one of the most frustrating seasons ever. Laughable at this point.
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Post by jmei on Jun 14, 2015 16:52:18 GMT -5
That's nine players and they have to go out and add De Aza, another replacement level player. Nit-picking here, but he's been worth 2.3 fWAR per 600 PAs over his career.
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Post by ray88h66 on Jun 14, 2015 16:59:45 GMT -5
There must be 4 or 5 suns up there. I just looked at the box score, Sox only have one error and the sun isn't out when the Jays are in the field. Is there a sabermetric stat for that.... Good one. I'm over it , and not anti stats. I just don't need a math equation to know if a tree fell in the forest it made noise. And the sox are much like what the bear did in the woods.
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Post by GyIantosca on Jun 14, 2015 17:02:29 GMT -5
I know my post doesn't belong here but can we get some official signings ? At least I feel better. i ant believe we're heading for another crappy summer. I have to spend more time in my backyard keeping busy.
2015 Farrell Red Sox vs. 2012 Valentine Red Sox
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Post by blizzards39 on Jun 14, 2015 17:06:37 GMT -5
Wonder what would happened had we went a different route this offseason???
1-What if Miley+ masterson = 2 of Lester/scherzer/shields/hamels
2- Hanley and panda never happened. I'm nott completely against either of these guys but we woulda needed there cash to sign the pitching.
3-Traded for Donaldson.
Seems to me this team has to many slack*** players and its frustrating to watch and multiplied when losing. not to mention the deplorable defence.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jun 14, 2015 17:09:54 GMT -5
If anything they should sell and commit to a rebuilding process and the young players. Be patient with them like most other teams have to do. Yes, its sad we likely wont win another with Ortiz but it would be sadder still to half *** contending. You can't buy a few Free Agents and trade for a few buy low veterans and expect to be competive. It worked in 2013 but you can't expect this method to always work out.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jun 14, 2015 17:12:45 GMT -5
Wonder what would happened had we went a different route this offseason??? 1-What if Miley+ masterson = 2 of Lester/scherzer/shields/hamels 2- Hanley and panda never happened. I'm nott completely against either of these guys but we woulda needed there cash to sign the pitching. 3-Traded for Donaldson. Seems to me this team has to many slackass players and its frustrating to watch and multiplied when losing. not to mention the deplorable defence. We still wouldn't be a world series team. Even worse, we'd have two franchise crippling contracts. If we were able to move on from Ortiz somehow, Hanley would be a great DH. Then we'd just have Pablo to worry about.
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Post by alnipper on Jun 14, 2015 17:30:43 GMT -5
I officially have given up on the Sox. We need more than an ace pitcher to turn around this team. It is time to start scouting other teams minors, so we get get back a few players. Wish we had a hot player in their last year of a contract with us.
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Post by radiohix on Jun 14, 2015 18:02:32 GMT -5
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Post by dd on Jun 14, 2015 18:23:37 GMT -5
I don't think Farrel was referring to "lack of effort". "That" in the first sentence above seems to refer to the previous paragraph: "Farrell focused on the distinction between effort and execution. To the manager, the Red Sox are still supplying the right amount of effort between the lines. Their woes lie in their inability to actually execute within those lines."
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Post by radiohix on Jun 14, 2015 18:32:48 GMT -5
I don't think Farrel was referring to "lack of effort". "That" in the first sentence above seems to refer to the previous paragraph: "Farrell focused on the distinction between effort and execution. To the manager, the Red Sox are still supplying the right amount of effort between the lines. Their woes lie in their inability to actually execute within those lines." Yeah you're right My hatred for Hanley make me read too much between the lines...He's still a guy with one of the lowest Baseball IQ I've ever saw though.
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Post by Guidas on Jun 14, 2015 18:56:31 GMT -5
I'm getting worried they'll try to fix this with a dumb deal or two. This team is not a couple trades away.
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Post by charliezink16 on Jun 14, 2015 22:22:30 GMT -5
Via Ryan Hannable:
Updating this stat from last month: Since the start of '14, the Red Sox have been swept at home 10 times - in Francona's 8 seasons, just 6.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 14, 2015 22:30:21 GMT -5
Via Ryan Hannable: Updating this stat from last month: Since the start of '14, the Red Sox have been swept at home 10 times - in Francona's 8 seasons, just 6. Wow. Fenway Park used to be the place where the Red Sox offense got healthy. Teams didn't just go into Fenway and beat the Sox up. The Francona era seems miles away at this point unfortunately. Makes it hard to want to spend all that money for a ticket when you don't think the home team has a good shot to win the game you're going to.
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Post by bookiemetts on Jun 14, 2015 22:43:56 GMT -5
I wish the MLB had an online video system similar to the NBA. For those not familiar with it, they have a system where you can go to the box score, and click on a player's particular stats and watch videos corresponding to their particular plays. They've got everything. You can watch all the shots a player takes or all of their turnovers; if it shows up as a stat in the box score you can watch it.
If they had this in baseball then you could easily go straight to the ABs you want to watch: Xander, Mookie, Swihart, Pedey...etc. without watching all the other crap in between. It could also be done so you could see all the fielding chances of each player.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2015 22:46:30 GMT -5
Via Ryan Hannable: Updating this stat from last month: Since the start of '14, the Red Sox have been swept at home 10 times - in Francona's 8 seasons, just 6. Wow. Fenway Park used to be the place where the Red Sox offense got healthy. Teams didn't just go into Fenway and beat the Sox up. The Francona era seems miles away at this point unfortunately. Makes it hard to want to spend all that money for a ticket when you don't think the home team has a good shot to win the game you're going to. I never did like how Francona was run out of town on a rail. Nor, did I understand the utter glee some seemed to experience at his firing. Now, the team is on the verge of its fourth manager in five seasons. Canning your manager every time you hit a rough patch is a solution in search of a problem.
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Post by mgoetze on Jun 14, 2015 22:46:54 GMT -5
If we were to list everything that has gone better-than-probably-expected we would list the following: Pedroia, Brock Holt. Pedroia having -1.4 UZR / -1 DRS / 5 Errors is hardly better than expected. Oh, sure, he hit a couple of Dingers in April, but then who didn't?
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Post by 07redsox on Jun 15, 2015 1:16:58 GMT -5
If we were to list everything that has gone better-than-probably-expected we would list the following: Pedroia, Brock Holt. Pedroia having -1.4 UZR / -1 DRS / 5 Errors is hardly better than expected. Oh, sure, he hit a couple of Dingers in April, but then who didn't? That is true for his defense, but I think most people would agree that they didn't expect him to come back offensively as well as he has.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 15, 2015 7:58:03 GMT -5
Via Ryan Hannable: Updating this stat from last month: Since the start of '14, the Red Sox have been swept at home 10 times - in Francona's 8 seasons, just 6. Wow. Fenway Park used to be the place where the Red Sox offense got healthy. Teams didn't just go into Fenway and beat the Sox up. The Francona era seems miles away at this point unfortunately. Makes it hard to want to spend all that money for a ticket when you don't think the home team has a good shot to win the game you're going to. It does help that he had Ortiz and Manny hitting 3-4 for basically all but on of those year and Pedro pitching every 5th day for half of them. But that is an amazing stat.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jun 15, 2015 8:14:35 GMT -5
There was also the 5 game sweep at home at the hands of the Yankees during the Francona era.
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Post by 07redsox on Jun 15, 2015 12:16:19 GMT -5
Wow. Fenway Park used to be the place where the Red Sox offense got healthy. Teams didn't just go into Fenway and beat the Sox up. The Francona era seems miles away at this point unfortunately. Makes it hard to want to spend all that money for a ticket when you don't think the home team has a good shot to win the game you're going to. It does help that he had Ortiz and Manny hitting 3-4 for basically all but on of those year and Pedro pitching every 5th day for half of them. But that is an amazing stat. Wasn't Pedro only here for his first year? Or am I remembering wrong?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 15, 2015 12:50:57 GMT -5
It does help that he had Ortiz and Manny hitting 3-4 for basically all but on of those year and Pedro pitching every 5th day for half of them. But that is an amazing stat. Wasn't Pedro only here for his first year? Or am I remembering wrong? All three were teammates on the 2003 and 2004 teams. Ortiz joined in 2003 and Pedro left after 2004.
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