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Post by Jonathan Singer on Aug 28, 2015 6:25:26 GMT -5
8/28 Red Sox (LHP Henry Owens 2-1 4.50) @ Mets (RHP Matt Harvey 11-7 2.57) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/MLBN/WEEI8/29 Red Sox (RHP Joe Kelly 7-6 5.18) @ Mets (RHP Jacob deGrom 12-6 2.29) 4:05 pm ET, NESN/FS1/WEEI8/30 Red Sox (LHP Wade Miley 10-10 4.51) @ Mets (RHP Noah Syndergaard 8-6 3.19) 1:10 pm ET, NESN/TBS/WEEIMLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsWeatherSeries Thread Disclaimer: The SoxProspects Moderators will be somewhat liberal in policing the Red Sox "Series" Threads. Some of the Ground Rules are applied loosely in here, as we understand that there is a tendency to want to react (or overreact) to every play of a Sox game with one line reactionary posts. Those posts are okay in the Red Sox Series threads to a point - we certainly appreciate the passion. Just try not to overdo it, and try to maintain some semblance of reason. In addition, please don't let those type of posts spill over to other more substantive threads, where they may be deleted. -The Management
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Post by threeifbaerga on Aug 28, 2015 7:37:21 GMT -5
Even if they get swept I think I'll enjoy watching this series. Got a soft spot in my heart for the Amazin's
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Post by nomar on Aug 28, 2015 7:43:55 GMT -5
Eduardo getting skipped to manage innings limit. He's just over 140 IP on the year.
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Post by jchang on Aug 28, 2015 8:23:43 GMT -5
While I think highly of Owens, some how I think he will look goofy at the plate. Please either strike out looking, or bunt. I can't help thinking of time Bartolo hurt himself swinging.
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Post by carmenfanzone on Aug 28, 2015 8:45:31 GMT -5
Isn't De Aza a free agent at the end of the year? If so, what possible reason could their be for not trading him before the end of the month? Unless a couple of people get hurt, he is not going to play much for the Red Sox for the rest of the year. Moreover, he has played well enough for the Red Sox since they have obtained him that he ought to be worth something to a contender. Even if it was just for a possible bullpen candidate for next year, I would think trading him before this series ends would be best for both the Red Sox and for him.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 28, 2015 9:42:23 GMT -5
Even if they get swept I think I'll enjoy watching this series. Got a soft spot in my heart for the Amazin's Agreed. I have solid Mets brothers whom I go to battle with on a daily basis against the MFY's. I told them I couldn't overtly root against the Sox, but I would be agnostic if the Mets did well. I was a Met fan until 1975, and that World Series changed everything for me.
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Post by michael on Aug 28, 2015 10:06:16 GMT -5
Isn't De Aza a free agent at the end of the year? If so, what possible reason could their be for not trading him before the end of the month? Unless a couple of people get hurt, he is not going to play much for the Red Sox for the rest of the year. Moreover, he has played well enough for the Red Sox since they have obtained him that he ought to be worth something to a contender. Even if it was just for a possible bullpen candidate for next year, I would think trading him before this series ends would be best for both the Red Sox and for him. I'm guessing that he'd be claimed on waivers, so the Sox could save a little money but not much more.
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Post by gerry on Aug 28, 2015 11:04:12 GMT -5
Wouldn't deAza be among the best 4tb OF options available. His cost would be reasonable, he covers all 3 OF spots well, he hits well enough, has some speed and pop, a good arm, good instincts, seems to be good in dugout and, if he could see himself in that role, might make a great mentor to 3 young outfielders over the next few years. Just a thought.
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Post by ray88h66 on Aug 28, 2015 11:47:34 GMT -5
Even if they get swept I think I'll enjoy watching this series. Got a soft spot in my heart for the Amazin's Agreed. I have solid Mets brothers whom I go to battle with on a daily basis against the MFY's. I told them I couldn't overtly root against the Sox, but I would be agnostic if the Mets did well. I was a Met fan until 1975, and that World Series changed everything for me. Three rings later I still want to do damage to the Mets, but the hate is gone from 86. I've also mellowed with age, and don't hate any ball team, but the Yanks still lead my list on the bad wishes list. Love to see the young hitters do some damage against good pitching this weekend.
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Post by carmenfanzone on Aug 28, 2015 12:04:42 GMT -5
Isn't De Aza a free agent at the end of the year? If so, what possible reason could their be for not trading him before the end of the month? Unless a couple of people get hurt, he is not going to play much for the Red Sox for the rest of the year. Moreover, he has played well enough for the Red Sox since they have obtained him that he ought to be worth something to a contender. Even if it was just for a possible bullpen candidate for next year, I would think trading him before this series ends would be best for both the Red Sox and for him. I'm guessing that he'd be claimed on waivers, so the Sox could save a little money but not much more. I ma pretty sure he has already cleared waivers.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 28, 2015 12:57:48 GMT -5
Even if they get swept I think I'll enjoy watching this series. Got a soft spot in my heart for the Amazin's As a frustrated 12 year old in 1984, I started paying attention to the up and coming Mets as the Sox struggled mightily out of the gates. Of course the Mets blossomed, but I couldn't change what I am - a Red Sox fan, and fortunately the Sox wound up putting together a strong lineup and a very promising pitching staff led by a kid I had seen in New Britain the year before and this kid struck out 15 KC Royals without walking anybody. Wondered if he could top that, and eventually Roger Clemens did. So I was back to being a Sox diehard for the rest of my life, but I still had a soft spot in my heart for the Mets, because if you were a Mets fan you hated the Yankees, too. That soft spot went away for good in 1986. Now I hate the Mets, too - just not quite as much as the Yankees as I did root for the Bobby V Mets to beat the Yankees in 2000. Actually I think I might have rooted more for nuclear war that October. But, I will maintain a very warm spot in my heart for the 1969 Mets (and of course the 1962 edition). How can you not? Them and the 1955 Brooklyn Dodgers. Those Dodgers were the inspiration that someday the Sox could knock off the Yankees with the thought being it might take many, many tries, but someday the Sox will have their 1955 and they did except it was called 2004.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 28, 2015 14:17:55 GMT -5
I'm guessing that he'd be claimed on waivers, so the Sox could save a little money but not much more. I ma pretty sure he has already cleared waivers. He has. Apparently the Sox asking price was too high. www.mlbtraderumors.com/alejandro-de-aza
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 28, 2015 15:00:37 GMT -5
That was probably under Cherington, though. Who must have had some small interest in re-signing him as the LHB on the bench, and thought that that possibility would be harmed if we traded him to a contender. Travis Shaw has now reduced that interest to zero. Because I can't really believe the alternative explanation for asking anything at all for him, which is that he didn't understand that he literally has negative value to us now. I think that none of us are interested in tanking; we want to see every projected 2016 Sox player play as well as possible, and that will hopefully mean winning a lot of games. What we don't want to see happen is games won because of contributions from guys who won't be here next year and who are furthermore taking PT away from guys we want to look at. He would be useful to almost any contender in September. Hopefully, there's a club who wants to make him post-season eligible and has roster room right now for him. Just not having to pay him to play for someone else would be a win, but they should be able to pick up a C- prospect.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Aug 28, 2015 15:46:13 GMT -5
I'm confused - how did the Red Sox sneak De Aza through waivers? I can't see the Dodgers/Giants saying 'we want him, but not at that salary'. Is his value so low that he is worth less than his salary? Or did the Red Sox pick the perfect time where nobody had a roster spot readily available or they were asleep at the wheel?
As he seems to be a consistent ~2.0-2.5 WAR player - I feel like I'm missing something here.
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Post by raindelay on Aug 28, 2015 16:23:29 GMT -5
Hanley scratched from game tonight, don't know why.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 28, 2015 17:10:46 GMT -5
Hanley scratched from game tonight, don't know why. Shoulder
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Post by Oregon Norm on Aug 28, 2015 17:13:58 GMT -5
Hanley scratched from game tonight, don't know why. Here's one possible reason. Check out left field: Check out right field and center field for that matter. This is one tough outfield, and you'll want a few gazelle's out there. The Sox have those guys, but none of them are named Ramirez. Add to that that you've got Harvey, a right-hander going... you get the idea. Having Shaw and Bradley may give you some minor advantage at the plate. In that outfield, it's a major plus.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Aug 28, 2015 17:25:54 GMT -5
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Post by ray88h66 on Aug 28, 2015 17:35:25 GMT -5
Whatever the reason, the sad fact is the Sox have a better chance without Hanley in LF.
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Post by grandsalami on Aug 28, 2015 17:38:12 GMT -5
“@ken_Rosenthal: A player who still could get moved: #RedSox’s De Aza. Inquiries have continued since Dombrowski took over; Sox going with younger OFers.”
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Post by Oregon Norm on Aug 28, 2015 17:48:03 GMT -5
Whatever the reason, the sad fact is the Sox have a better chance without Hanley in LF. I see it as a happy fact. In the words of the well known existentialist and minor philosopher Bill Belichick, it is what it is.
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Post by carmenfanzone on Aug 28, 2015 18:04:05 GMT -5
“@ken_Rosenthal: A player who still could get moved: #RedSox’s De Aza. Inquiries have continued since Dombrowski took over; Sox going with younger OFers.” It isn't that I dislike De Aza. I think he is a pretty good 4th outfielder and he played pretty well for the Red Sox. But since the Red Sox are out of it and he is a free agent, he has no value to us at this point. I am going to be disappointed in the front office if he is still with the team on September 1st. If they have multiple offers for him as the above quote suggests, figure out which one is the best and take it.
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 28, 2015 18:14:42 GMT -5
So is another NESN move to get rid of the pitch zone?
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Post by ray88h66 on Aug 28, 2015 18:42:02 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 28, 2015 18:43:05 GMT -5
Owens' changeup is ON tonight. Wow.
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