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Spring Training Gameday Thread
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Mar 31, 2016 12:31:50 GMT -5
We will not be an optimal team as long as we have Holt as our starting left fielder. That should be addressed now.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Mar 31, 2016 12:39:25 GMT -5
We will not be an optimal team as long as we have Holt as our starting left fielder. That should be addressed now. No. There is no such thing as an "optimal" team. Sox are awarding guys who did their due diligence and performed, this is good for teaching players to work and perform. Do I think Shaw and Holt will be starters at the halfway point? Nope. But with Holt hitting out of his mind in the first halves of the last two years, I'm fine with it.
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Post by DesignatedKyle on Mar 31, 2016 14:44:08 GMT -5
So, Hanley's hitting the ball pretty darn well.
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Post by sarasoxer on Mar 31, 2016 16:19:31 GMT -5
Yes he is. Today he also made some impressive plays at first including a nice scoop of a low throw. I think that he is mentally buoyed by his defensive play and we may get an interested Hanley this year.
Our bullpen is suspect...better, but IMO suspect.
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Post by gerry on Mar 31, 2016 21:15:33 GMT -5
Yes he is. Today he also made some impressive plays at first including a nice scoop of a low throw. I think that he is mentally buoyed by his defensive play and we may get an interested Hanley this year. Our bullpen is suspect...better, but IMO suspect. Kimbrel, Koji, Taz look totally not-suspect. Barnes, Ross, Noe look pretty good. I hope leaving Layne in today to face mostly RHB was just a ST exercise that proved to Farrell, Willits, DDo and Hazen that Layne should never face RHB in the same way Young should never face RHP's; at least if winning games is the goal. Please let that be the case. When Smith and Wright return to the Pen, it should be more organically awesome than remotely suspect. IMO. Not worried. And between Andrew Millers broken wrist, no matter how minor, and Chapman's suspension, am even less worried. The Sox are by no means the only team with injuries and issues.
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Post by telson13 on Mar 31, 2016 21:34:11 GMT -5
Yes he is. Today he also made some impressive plays at first including a nice scoop of a low throw. I think that he is mentally buoyed by his defensive play and we may get an interested Hanley this year. Our bullpen is suspect...better, but IMO suspect. Kimbrel, Koji, Taz look totally not-suspect. Barnes, Ross, Noe look pretty good. I hope leaving Layne in today to face mostly RHB was just a ST exercise that proved to Farrell, Willits, DDo and Hazen that Layne should never face RHB in the same way Young should never face RHP's; at least if winning games is the goal. Please let that be the case. When Smith and Wright return to the Pen, it should be more organically awesome than remotely suspect. IMO. Not worried. And between Andrew Millers broken wrist, no matter how minor, and Chapman's suspension, am even less worried. The Sox are by no means the only team with injuries and issues. I think Barnes is a huge breakout candidate. His FB has always been very good in terms of swing-and-miss. Plus velocity and terrific movement. With the CB command improved he can work on his CH without risk of getting shelled for lack of a secondary. The CH has more than show-me potential, too. He was very, very good last fall, and outstanding this spring. I think he has elite setup-man potential. Noe Ramirez (love the Badenhop comparo someone made) could stretch out the 'pen's quality, too. And with Jerez, Light, and Martin, they have three high-velo options in AAA. I'm not too worried for the moment.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Mar 31, 2016 21:48:12 GMT -5
So, Hanley's hitting the ball pretty darn well. Ramirez has always hit the ball well... when healthy. The idea for the team is to keep him that way. First base might be the ticket.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Mar 31, 2016 21:57:04 GMT -5
We will not be an optimal team as long as we have Holt as our starting left fielder. That should be addressed now. No. There is no such thing as an "optimal" team. Sox are awarding guys who did their due diligence and performed, this is good for teaching players to work and perform. Do I think Shaw and Holt will be starters at the halfway point? Nope. But with Holt hitting out of his mind in the first halves of the last two years, I'm fine with it. No team is optimal yet having a light hitting Brock Holt in the left Field made famous by guys like Yaz, Manny and Williams is an eyesore to me. Give me a mega bopper in Fenway's left field. It's a tremendous opportunity lost.
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 1, 2016 1:42:25 GMT -5
Today's lineup is probably going to be the opening day lineup against Kluber right? Betts Pedroia X Papi Hanley Shaw Holt Swihart JBJ It's not a bad lineup really. One thing about Price is that he usually is a "slow" starter to the season. For his career March and April are by far his worst months (3.84 career ERA), and this happened last year as well. Over the weekend I also will upload a complete spring training highlight video with all of the clips available from the players expecting significant playing time this season in 1 video if people are interested. The 6-7-9 spots bother me. The projection systems consensus ranking of those three guys by quality: Bradley, Shaw, Holt. Rank them by most value from OBP to least (or least to most SA): Holt, Bradley, Shaw. So Bradley 6, Shaw 7, and Holt 9 is clearly better. It puts the three guys in quality order, puts Bradley's OBP value ahead of Shaw's SA value, and puts Holt's decent OBP and limited power in the second lead-off spot. In contrast, Shaw's power in front of Holt's table-setting is counter-productive, but since you never want to pinch-hit for Holt since he's your only backup at 2B and SS (something I forgot when I ran this down earlier), you don't want him hitting 6th, and he's not good enough to hit there anyway. And I already laid out the argument for Ortiz 3 and Bogaerts 4.
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Post by atzar on Apr 1, 2016 8:37:04 GMT -5
No. There is no such thing as an "optimal" team. Sox are awarding guys who did their due diligence and performed, this is good for teaching players to work and perform. Do I think Shaw and Holt will be starters at the halfway point? Nope. But with Holt hitting out of his mind in the first halves of the last two years, I'm fine with it. No team is optimal yet having a light hitting Brock Holt in the left Field made famous by guys like Yaz, Manny and Williams is an eyesore to me. Give me a mega bopper in Fenway's left field. It's a tremendous opportunity lost. Well unless you feel like putting Hanley back out there, that "mega bopper" isn't on the roster. Have fun finding a HoF LF without selling off all of our best young talent.
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Post by station13 on Apr 1, 2016 9:44:35 GMT -5
Does anyone know who starts the games in Montreal?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 1, 2016 9:56:33 GMT -5
Does anyone know who starts the games in Montreal? Wright has today's game.
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Post by sox fan in nc on Apr 1, 2016 12:10:42 GMT -5
Yes he is. Today he also made some impressive plays at first including a nice scoop of a low throw. I think that he is mentally buoyed by his defensive play and we may get an interested Hanley this year. Our bullpen is suspect...better, but IMO suspect. Kimbrel, Koji, Taz look totally not-suspect. Barnes, Ross, Noe look pretty good. I hope leaving Layne in today to face mostly RHB was just a ST exercise that proved to Farrell, Willits, DDo and Hazen that Layne should never face RHB in the same way Young should never face RHP's; at least if winning games is the goal. Please let that be the case. When Smith and Wright return to the Pen, it should be more organically awesome than remotely suspect. IMO. Not worried. And between Andrew Millers broken wrist, no matter how minor, and Chapman's suspension, am even less worried. The Sox are by no means the only team with injuries and issues. I never pitched above HS ball, but does a non pitching wrist being broken, or broken chips, or whatever, affect a pitchers motion, balance, tempo, ect?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 1, 2016 12:22:06 GMT -5
No, but it does affect his fielding. Players aren't averse to testing a guy in a situation like that with bunts. He also has to catch the ball on return throws from the pitcher. That's a cumulative impact that might start to wear on that injury. Or not. There are others on the site whom might want to chime in.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 1, 2016 16:05:45 GMT -5
No, but it does affect his fielding. Players aren't averse to testing a guy in a situation like that with bunts. He also has to catch the ball on return throws from the pitcher. That's a cumulative impact that might start to wear on that injury. Or not. There are others on the site whom might want to chime in. Actually thought about this earlier today. If someone hits a come-backer at him, he may not be able to help his reflex reaction, even if it's to the side and not right at his face/center mass. That might be a worst case - sticking the glove out for a liner on instinct.
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Post by thursty on Apr 1, 2016 18:25:22 GMT -5
how long does the knuckleball effect last?
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Post by thursty on Apr 1, 2016 18:41:49 GMT -5
interesting that the Blue Jays shifted against Shaw on the infield. He should take advantage of that (talk to Xander)
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Post by DesignatedKyle on Apr 1, 2016 19:10:14 GMT -5
Pedro has me tearing up right now
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Post by telson13 on Apr 1, 2016 19:14:23 GMT -5
No, but it does affect his fielding. Players aren't averse to testing a guy in a situation like that with bunts. He also has to catch the ball on return throws from the pitcher. That's a cumulative impact that might start to wear on that injury. Or not. There are others on the site whom might want to chime in. I'd read that he has a pisiform fracture. The pisiform is about the size of a pea, and sits in the wrist wrapped in the tendon of the flexor carpi ulnaris (little finger side of the wrist). It's highly unlikely that it affects him unless, while fielding, he happens to take a bad hop off of it.
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Post by DesignatedKyle on Apr 1, 2016 19:15:08 GMT -5
Jackieeeeeeee
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Post by telson13 on Apr 1, 2016 19:15:35 GMT -5
how long does the knuckleball effect last? The only article I'd read on it looked at the following series. Maybe a day or two?
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Post by thursty on Apr 1, 2016 19:15:51 GMT -5
saunders was safe, but that was a terrific play by Bradley
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Post by Oregon Norm on Apr 1, 2016 19:20:16 GMT -5
how long does the knuckleball effect last? As long as you're at bat... Add: I do believe Betts is ready for the season.
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Post by thursty on Apr 1, 2016 19:24:19 GMT -5
I'm still a skeptic, but Bradley has looked terrific at the plate the few games I've seen him this spring
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 1, 2016 21:02:09 GMT -5
Shaw looking good this inning. Prevented a double then made a terrific tag on a stolen base attempt.
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